Poll: Your political standing?

[J-Man]

Anarchism and libertarianism are ridiculous
Communism is sadly an utopia
Socialism is attainable, but Blair killed it
Capitalism is sickening
Fascism is sickening
Despotism is sickening

Personally I'm far left, either a communist or socialist state will do me. However, I'm willing for an "authoritarian but willing" state to be in power. I also am quite fond of 1-party states.

 

[JMeganSnow]

All political philosophies on the left boil down to the same thing: gov't or generalized control over at least *some* aspect of the economy. Arguing over how and what and how much and precisely who constitutes the controlling body is pointless when it all amounts to the same thing in the end.

Perhaps, but it would be just as fair to say that right-ist political philosophies boil down to making the rich richer without regard to anything else. (ie: it's a gross oversimplification that distorts the position.)

I'm not interested in "fairness", I'm interested in accuracy, and while my statement of leftist philosophy is accurate (all leftist philosophies involve SOME gov't control over SOME aspect of the economy), your characterization of the "right" is laughable.

Of course, this isn't really your fault. There *is* no political philosophy on the right any more, just an unstable mix of religious dogma, noble-sounding mixed-economy rhetoric, and recycled socialism. I'm not on the political right and neither are any other capitalists, because advocating true laissez-faire capitalism requires striking out in a completely new and unprecedented direction. We're the political Up.

And as for speaking about pathetically recycled claims, that gibberish about the rich getting richer under capitalism is a fallacy that has been exploded so many times and so thoroughly that it's just silly.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

I demand Putinism be added to this poll so I can vote my idol.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

All political philosophies on the left boil down to the same thing: gov't or generalized control over at least *some* aspect of the economy. Arguing over how and what and how much and precisely who constitutes the controlling body is pointless when it all amounts to the same thing in the end.

Perhaps, but it would be just as fair to say that right-ist political philosophies boil down to making the rich richer without regard to anything else. (ie: it's a gross oversimplification that distorts the position.)

I'm not interested in "fairness", I'm interested in accuracy, and while my statement of leftist philosophy is accurate (all leftist philosophies involve SOME gov't control over SOME aspect of the economy), your characterization of the "right" is laughable.

Of course, this isn't really your fault. There *is* no political philosophy on the right any more, just an unstable mix of religious dogma, noble-sounding mixed-economy rhetoric, and recycled socialism. I'm not on the political right and neither are any other capitalists, because advocating true laissez-faire capitalism requires striking out in a completely new and unprecedented direction. We're the political Up.

And as for speaking about pathetically recycled claims, that gibberish about the rich getting richer under capitalism is a fallacy that has been exploded so many times and so thoroughly that it's just silly.

To quote myself:

"All political philosophies on the right boil down to the same thing: control by a small elite on a large aspect of both the economy and the state. Arguing over how and what and how much and precisely how many people are in the elite is pointless when it all amounts to the same thing in the end."

And your claims about leftists are just as overused and silly.

 

[Mungini]

I demand Putinism be added to this poll so I can vote my idol.

Tough luck

 

[TheDean]

i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.

Please explain to me how the hell would communism work without a goverment?
Who would redistribute the goods and keep people from commiting such crimes as working on their own and living their life ?

I'm a libertarian. No such option so I went for capitalism. I'm glad its leading atm.

The flaw in communism is the dictator. Who thought that was a good idea?
I remove the govt. Wealth does not need to be "distributed" because there isn't any. No money, no economy.

 

[TheDean]

i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

FOR THE MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!

lol@u

Full of fail

Full of win you mean!
And no, of course i have no loyalty to Russia. I have no loyalty to any country.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Putin's a dick, but damn, he has power.

And is quite popular which makes it a double-win for any politician. Power? Check. Popular? Check...Dear God he could be the Messiah.
*cues Hallelujah Chorus*

But in all seriousness Putin is only a dick because he is anti-Western and has promoted a highly nationalist ideology that has helped pull Russia from the slump that was Boris Yeltsin.

 

[Mungini]

I demand Putinism be added to this poll so I can vote my idol.

Tough luck

Well I'm not the retard that put up capitalism as a political system.

Ooh someone is a little touchy

 

[Baby Tea]

Not a fan of reality, then? You pay for it regardless, the only difference is the *form* in which you pay for it. The choice is this:

Would you rather pay for something invisibly your entire life whether you want it or not or have any use for it or not and be mired in a swamp of regulations, exceptions, controls, rationing, and the ever-increasing dictates of Mama Government, or would you rather pay for it only as and when you need it subject only to your own decisions?

I'd rather pay for it little by little over time whether I need it or not. I can afford to pay my taxes, I could, in no way, afford the two operations that saved my life. I don't have $10,000 kicking around in my bank account.
Twice over.
Likewise my dad would agree with me, since he didn't have $50,000+ to pay for his surgery and rehabilitation when he fell off a ladder onto his head a few years ago.

Not everyone makes the money needed to be able to afford it 'when they need it'.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Not a fan of reality, then? You pay for it regardless, the only difference is the *form* in which you pay for it. The choice is this:

Would you rather pay for something invisibly your entire life whether you want it or not or have any use for it or not and be mired in a swamp of regulations, exceptions, controls, rationing, and the ever-increasing dictates of Mama Government, or would you rather pay for it only as and when you need it subject only to your own decisions?

I'd rather pay for it little by little over time whether I need it or not. I can afford to pay my taxes, I could, in no way, afford the two operations that saved my life. I don't have $10,000 kicking around in my bank account.
Twice over.
Likewise my dad would agree with me, since he didn't have $50,000+ to pay for his surgery and rehabilitation when he fell off a ladder onto his head a few years ago.

Not everyone makes the money needed to be able to afford it 'when they need it'.

Exactly. I would like to know what dreamland Megan lives in where you know when you are going to be injured so that you can save up? Like I bet those people who got caught up in drive-bys in LA just planned to catch a bullet in the face on the way home from work. I can hear it now, "God work fuckin sucked today...I know what will make it better catching a 9mm from a banger! Hell yeah that would make my day fuckin rock."

 

[Hevoo]

i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

FOR THE MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!

lol@u

Full of fail

Full of win you mean!
And no, of course i have no loyalty to Russia. I have no loyalty to any country.

cool

Have fun with that.

 

[Blind Punk Riot]

I don't /agree/ with voting, there should be a dictatorship so we don't /mess/ up our country... like we have.

stupid people in charge giving us what we think we want, rather than what we need.

 

[JMeganSnow]

All political philosophies on the right boil down to the same thing: control by a small elite on a large aspect of both the economy and the state. Arguing over how and what and how much and precisely how many people are in the elite is pointless when it all amounts to the same thing in the end.

There is *no* political philosophy on the right any more.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Putin's a dick, but damn, he has power.

And is quite popular which makes it a double-win for any politician. Power? Check. Popular? Check...Dear God he could be the Messiah.
*cues Hallelujah Chorus*

But in all seriousness Putin is only a dick because he is anti-Western and has promoted a highly nationalist ideology that has helped pull Russia from the slump that was Boris Yeltsin.

No, he's a dick because he said he'll blow my ass with nuclear rockets

At least he was honest enough to say so. Am I right?

 

[JMeganSnow]

I'd rather pay for it little by little over time whether I need it or not. I can afford to pay my taxes, I could, in no way, afford the two operations that saved my life. I don't have $10,000 kicking around in my bank account.
Twice over.
Likewise my dad would agree with me, since he didn't have $50,000+ to pay for his surgery and rehabilitation when he fell off a ladder onto his head a few years ago.

Not everyone makes the money needed to be able to afford it 'when they need it'.

There are no loans or charitable organizations or insurance companies? There are myriad options for emergencies should you run across one--that's what *health insurance* (the private kind) is for. And what are you and your dad going to do when the gov't decides on a whim that you don't fall into the proper "case group" to be eligible for care? If your health insurance company does something like that, you can sue them. If the gov't does, you're screwed.

Just look at the current list of proposals in Britain to deny healthcare to people who make poor lifestyle choices because they're "costing the system too much". Oh, you smoke, sorry, your money's no good here--even though you've been forced to pay it for your entire life. As the system becomes increasingly bankrupt, the calls for this will only increase.

The vast majority of procedures are inexpensive and catastrophe insurance is incredibly cheap. You'd rather exchange this situation for one in which men are *forced* to pay for maternity expenses and acupuncture and herbal therapy and everything else under the sun yet still frequently have their claims denied?

 

[John Galt]

Neo-fascist here. Just give me some sensible economics and a good speech and I'm happy.