Poll: Your political standing?

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Hevoo

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FireFly90 said:
Comunism ain't all that bad, it's just most people have got it in their heads that is is bad beacuse of the rusians. It can work just as any other political system can work but only if you haven't got some corrupt power hungry madman as your leader.
All man are corrupt or will become corrupt. People are greedy and selfish and only care for themselves. Communism only would work if people were not the above.
 

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Hevoo said:
FireFly90 said:
Comunism ain't all that bad, it's just most people have got it in their heads that is is bad beacuse of the rusians. It can work just as any other political system can work but only if you haven't got some corrupt power hungry madman as your leader.
All man are corrupt or will become corrupt. People are greedy and selfish and only care for themselves. Communism only would work if people were not the above.
I can agree with that. The only way it would work is if you minimised the power that the leader has
 

Hevoo

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Mungini said:
That isn't Socialism. Thats Communism. Socialism is a system which helps the working class with free health care and free education but still maintains the basic capitalist values
Nope that's called a Mixed economy

Mixed economy
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A mixed economy is an economic system that incorporates aspects of more than one economic system. This usually means an economy that contains both privately-owned and state-owned enterprises[1] or that combines elements of capitalism and socialism, or a mix of market economy and planned economy characteristics.[2]

There is not one single definition for a mixed economy,[3] but relevant aspects include: a degree of private economic freedom (including privately owned industry) intermingled with centralized economic planning (which may include intervention for environmentalism and social welfare, or state ownership of some of the means of production).

For some states, there is not a consensus on whether they are capitalist, socialist, or mixed economies. Economies in states ranging from the United States[4] to Cuba[5] have been termed mixed economies.
 

Mungini

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Yeah but Socialism can be referred to that. Communism or Marxism is the proper name. It's a bit like conservatism which is a mix of Capitalism as well as other systems.
 

FireFly90

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Mungini said:
Hevoo said:
FireFly90 said:
Comunism ain't all that bad, it's just most people have got it in their heads that is is bad beacuse of the rusians. It can work just as any other political system can work but only if you haven't got some corrupt power hungry madman as your leader.
All man are corrupt or will become corrupt. People are greedy and selfish and only care for themselves. Communism only would work if people were not the above.
I can agree with that. The only way it would work is if you minimised the power that the leader has
Jesus would be a good comunist leader. :)
 

TheDean

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i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.
 

Mungini

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FireFly90 said:
Mungini said:
Hevoo said:
FireFly90 said:
Comunism ain't all that bad, it's just most people have got it in their heads that is is bad beacuse of the rusians. It can work just as any other political system can work but only if you haven't got some corrupt power hungry madman as your leader.
All man are corrupt or will become corrupt. People are greedy and selfish and only care for themselves. Communism only would work if people were not the above.
I can agree with that. The only way it would work is if you minimised the power that the leader has
Jesus would be a good comunist leader. :)
lol. I just hope he doesn't go mad with power
 

Hevoo

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TheDean said:
i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

FOR THE MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!

lol@u

Full of fail
 

PxDn Ninja

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I've pretty much given up on Government, as well as the human race in general. Just hoping to outlive our own apocalypse.
 

Aardvark Soup

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Capitalism isn't really a political system, more an economic system and is usually combined with one of the other options (except communism) in this poll.

Anyway, I personally am somewhere between a social-liberalist and a social-democrat.
 

Hevoo

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Aardvark Soup said:
Capitalism isn't really a political system, more an economic system and is usually combined with one of the other options (except communism) in this poll.

Anyway, I personally am somewhere between a social-liberalist and a social-democrat.
That's what I said... Sometimes I sit here in aw because how dumb people really are.
 

JMeganSnow

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Alleged_Alec said:
Actually, anarchy is. However, many people have a wrong definition in mind. Anarchy isn't about a lawless society.
Yes, it is--anarchy literally means lawlessness and as such is not a political *system* any more than a vacant lot is a type of house. However, most *proponents* of anarchy are simply proposing a system whereby there is no official "government".

I'm a Capitalist, which should technically make me a Republican system-wise if that word still meant anything. A republic is, from what I can tell, the best and only means of actually respecting individual rights and thus of reaching a capitalist outcome.

The poll should probably read either like this:

Capitalist
Socialist
Communist
Fascist

OR

Republican (in the strict literal sense, in that you want a Republic)
Democrat (in the strict literal sense, in that you want a Democracy)
Dictator (which includes any sort of single-authority gov't, from monarchy to banana republic)
Oligarch (rule by a select group)
Anarchist (no gov't)

If you could do 2 polls as part of the same thread, that'd be grounds for a lively discussion over which gov't system supports which economic system and why. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw some very intriguing results.
 

Alleged_Alec

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So lets say if you got a class, and you do all the work and get a A in the class. But the teacher says "everyone has to be equal because we live in the soviet republic of (insert nation), so I will avg all your grades out." So that means all the F students get pushed up and all the A students get pushed down. Now take that example and apply it to economics. Now matter how hard you work you will never get ahead in life, so if you are the best factory worker in all of your soviet republic, you are equal to the laziest....
You have a quite skewed image of equality and equal possibilities. Besides, the allusion to the soviet union is weak at best and clueless at worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

FOR THE MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!

lol@u

Full of fail
Firstly anarcho-communism isn't communism. Secondly, apparently you have no idea about the left side of the political spectrum. Get some knowledge about that. Begone now, you troll.

Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs and the regulation of markets; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.

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Yes, it is--anarchy literally means lawlessness and as such is not a political *system* any more than a vacant lot is a type of house. However, most *proponents* of anarchy are simply proposing a system whereby there is no official "government".
No, anarchy means: Without a leader. Anarchism isn't lawless perse. Anarchy is based on the idea that everyone is and ideally will do the right thing, thus being there no need for strict laws.
 

Hevoo

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Kukul said:
TheDean said:
i picked Anachishm, but to be extremely precise i am a non-theist Anarcho-communist.
Please explain to me how the hell would communism work without a goverment?
Who would redistribute the goods and keep people from commiting such crimes as working on their own and living their life ?

I'm a libertarian. No such option so I went for capitalism. I'm glad its leading atm.
The kid is like 13 and 14 don't kill his dreams yet. Let him day dream about the book the Giver, which he totally took that idea from.
 

Hevoo

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apsham said:
Hevoo said:
Aardvark Soup said:
Capitalism isn't really a political system, more an economic system and is usually combined with one of the other options (except communism) in this poll.

Anyway, I personally am somewhere between a social-liberalist and a social-democrat.
That's what I said... Sometimes I sit here in aw because how dumb people really are.
You mean awe, right?
yeah, see I thought it was awe first but then I edit cause I checked it on the internet. Looks like the internet was wrong.....
 

Hevoo

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Alleged_Alec said:
So lets say if you got a class, and you do all the work and get a A in the class. But the teacher says "everyone has to be equal because we live in the soviet republic of (insert nation), so I will avg all your grades out." So that means all the F students get pushed up and all the A students get pushed down. Now take that example and apply it to economics. Now matter how hard you work you will never get ahead in life, so if you are the best factory worker in all of your soviet republic, you are equal to the laziest....
You have a quite skewed image of equality and equal possibilities. Besides, the allusion to the soviet union is weak at best and clueless at worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

FOR THE MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!

lol@u

Full of fail
Firstly anarcho-communism isn't communism. Secondly, apparently you have no idea about the left side of the political spectrum. Get some knowledge about that. Begone now, you troll.

Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs and the regulation of markets; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.
Why didn't you quote the part that was non-satire or not joking.....
 

Baby Tea

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Socialism!
I'd rather pay high taxes and have everything taken care of then have to worry about things like health care and such.
 

Mungini

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You can critisce any political or economic idea but the truth is none of them are perfect and everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'm personally a Neo-luddite but I'm open to other peoples opinions so try not to insult people please