Poll: Zombies Apocalypse: Could it happen?

[Jekken6]

It can and will happen. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

 

[DuplicateValue]

Tell me you've seen Let the Right One in.

Of course - it's one of my favourite movies.
I still need to get around to reading the book though.

I meant romantic in a different sense though. Like in the way the whole concept of vampires is beautiful.

Are you beating around the bush?

Twilight. I said it. I remember watching Underworld 1 before my girlfriend dragged me to Twilight.

Ah right.
No I wasn't talking about Twilight at all.
[sub]Though Alice more than made up for the movie's flaws. [/sub]

Twilight's vampires were too perfect - like gods or something. I think vampires should have more of an animal side.
Like the way Eli slips around on the snow in LTROI. It shows that she's not perfect - more like a beast than a god.

I know a lot of people hate Supernatural on these forums but they did vampires really well.
They're getting wiped out by hunters and, even though they've started drinking cattle's blood now, they're still being killed. They treat it like... well, sorta like MPD. When you need blood, your logical thinking goes out of the window and you're an animal.

That sounds pretty cool actually. I don't really watch tv that much anymore, but I might give it a look.

I can't decide whether I like Dracula or not. I mean, I know he was like the original vampire or something, but he always comes across as too frail. Though that might just be the version I saw.

He had a bold presence but... yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Come to think of it... Vampires and Werewolves in Supernatural are quite alike. Except Werewolves rip out your heart and eat it. The only big difference is that Werewolves don't know they're doing it because they turn at night, when there's a full moon, and just stroll home and get back in bed when they're done.

Are they enemies in it, or do they just go around bothering the normal people?

 

[Jaranja]

Tell me you've seen Let the Right One in.

Of course - it's one of my favourite movies.
I still need to get around to reading the book though.

I meant romantic in a different sense though. Like in the way the whole concept of vampires is beautiful.

Are you beating around the bush?

Twilight. I said it. I remember watching Underworld 1 before my girlfriend dragged me to Twilight.

Ah right.
No I wasn't talking about Twilight at all.
[sub]Though Alice more than made up for the movie's flaws. [/sub]

Twilight's vampires were too perfect - like gods or something. I think vampires should have more of an animal side.
Like the way Eli slips around on the snow in LTROI. It shows that she's not perfect - more like a beast than a god.

I know a lot of people hate Supernatural on these forums but they did vampires really well.
They're getting wiped out by hunters and, even though they've started drinking cattle's blood now, they're still being killed. They treat it like... well, sorta like MPD. When you need blood, your logical thinking goes out of the window and you're an animal.

That sounds pretty cool actually. I don't really watch tv that much anymore, but I might give it a look.

I can't decide whether I like Dracula or not. I mean, I know he was like the original vampire or something, but he always comes across as too frail. Though that might just be the version I saw.

He had a bold presence but... yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Come to think of it... Vampires and Werewolves in Supernatural are quite alike. Except Werewolves rip out your heart and eat it. The only big difference is that Werewolves don't know they're doing it because they turn at night, when there's a full moon, and just stroll home and get back in bed when they're done.

Are they enemies in it, or do they just go around bothering the normal people?

They don't usually look at them against each other. They probably don't like each other because they're basically hunting the same thing.

 

[zen5887]

About as much change as there being a Werewolf vs Vampire war in the undergrounds of our cities.

Please stop making threads about it.

 

[theironbat46]

I already know how it's going to go down and how to virus is going to go. A scientist is going to create a virus to cure everything. At first it will be said to be the miracle cure. The virus destroys the surrounding tissue around the area it is injected into. It then uses the tissue to replicate. It takes over the dead cells and starts them up again using itself. it then kills the surrounding area and stars over again till the full body is under it's control. For a while it will work perfectly. All the diseases in the world will seem to have disappeared, even the genetic ones. Then the disease will alter. It will crave to cure those uncured. It will do this by getting into the host be any means. Thus it will attack uncured people to replicate itself. But by then most of the people will be "cured" so the population as a whole will already be under it's control. The zombie part is, besides the attacking others part, the disease will be able to repair the body, stop blood flow to bad areas, and stop pain signals to the brain. chop off a limb and it'll still come after you. cutting off the head however stops the signals from the brain causing the body to be unable to act in unison and eventually die. A true zombie, relentlessness, unparalleled. Whenever the "cure" is found, don't take it, or you will surly die.
Math class... perfect for daydreaming.

Oh no, the world will only be populated by ripped, smart, young black men with german shepherds! Every clan members worst nightmare! [I am making an I am legend reference.]

 

[theironbat46]

No because doing that much damage to the brain would still kill you.

No, you see, you don't actually kill the braincells.

You just put part of the brain in a cryosleep-state
Somewhat

A virus can't do that.

Not a discovered virus, at any rate. And perhaps it's a parasite? You sound like an arrogant swine who's just determined to say 'no', no matter how many reasons are put in front of you.

No, I'm someone studying to be a zoologist or a biologist and has a great fascination with viruses and parasites and at one point obsessed over zombies. You people want to twist things in ways that can not work to make your zombie fantasies plausible.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html please, please read. Then come back in a hour. Tell us your ideas then.

Pardon me for not trusting a comedy site with no scientific credentials.

Then read this http://www.cracked.com/funny-2724-trolls/

*gasp* I don't believe a site that offers no real proof as to their silly article because they're a comedy site and you call me a troll? Colour me surprised.

Fine! give me a reason not to belive the off chance of not even a zombie apocalypse, but a small outbreak. Why not.

 

[Rednog]

No because doing that much damage to the brain would still kill you.

No, you see, you don't actually kill the braincells.

You just put part of the brain in a cryosleep-state
Somewhat

A virus can't do that.

Not a discovered virus, at any rate. And perhaps it's a parasite? You sound like an arrogant swine who's just determined to say 'no', no matter how many reasons are put in front of you.

How about the word from a Neurobiology major from a major school in the US, who is currently studying medicine.
No, it cannot happen, the body and central nervous system are so ridiculously complex and interdependent.
Say by some miracle that there is some kind of infected, even then they would die out incredibly fast, they wouldn't be able to run around forever, hell they would probably last less than a week. A human body cannot function more than a few days without food and water.

 

[theironbat46]

No because doing that much damage to the brain would still kill you.

No, you see, you don't actually kill the braincells.

You just put part of the brain in a cryosleep-state
Somewhat

A virus can't do that.

Not a discovered virus, at any rate. And perhaps it's a parasite? You sound like an arrogant swine who's just determined to say 'no', no matter how many reasons are put in front of you.

How about the word from a Neurobiology major from a major school in the US, who is currently studying medicine.
No, it cannot happen, the body and central nervous system are so ridiculously complex and interdependent.
Say by some miracle that there is some kind of infected, even then they would die out incredibly fast, they wouldn't be able to run around forever, hell they would probably last less than a week. A human body cannot function more than a few days without food and water.

So a slim chance of a 28 days later scenario, where the zombies die out within a few days? Because that can still wipe out the human race if it spreads fast, person to person, place to place. Eventually we all die. Am I on the right track?

 

[zen5887]

So a slim chance of a 28 days later scenario, where the zombies die out within a few days?

No.

They are not real. Somebody has made them up, they are a work of fiction!

 

[theironbat46]

No because doing that much damage to the brain would still kill you.

No, you see, you don't actually kill the braincells.

You just put part of the brain in a cryosleep-state
Somewhat

A virus can't do that.

Not a discovered virus, at any rate. And perhaps it's a parasite? You sound like an arrogant swine who's just determined to say 'no', no matter how many reasons are put in front of you.

No, I'm someone studying to be a zoologist or a biologist and has a great fascination with viruses and parasites and at one point obsessed over zombies. You people want to twist things in ways that can not work to make your zombie fantasies plausible.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html please, please read. Then come back in a hour. Tell us your ideas then.

Pardon me for not trusting a comedy site with no scientific credentials.

Then read this http://www.cracked.com/funny-2724-trolls/

*gasp* I don't believe a site that offers no real proof as to their silly article because they're a comedy site and you call me a troll? Colour me surprised.

Fine! give me a reason not to belive the off chance of not even a zombie apocalypse, but a small outbreak. Why not.

Because zombies aren't real. Lets say by chance one of those methods do ring true from that article. Lets go with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease because it's the most likely of them all. It's a fatal disease so even if it were to become common enough to infect enough people to cause even a small outbreak (It currently affects one in every one million people so that's a lot of infection rates to go up, and the people it shows up in tend to be older then 40, most commonly being seniors so they're not likely to be very fast) they'd all die in less then a year, four months being the average if no one killed them.
So pretty much it'll just be an outbreak of seniors who'll probably just break their legs trying to run after anyone and then lay on the ground in a heap where they can be set ablaze. The comedy site states that a bite can transfer it, I'm not sure but what I've looked up states that blood transfers can so it's possible but again unlikely (And I Wouldn't count on it since I don't think human saliva contains proteins, but I may be wrong on this count) to infect someone.

Good, now we are getting somewhere, now imagine. HOSPITALS. Worst place to be, now who goes to the hospital.... EVERYONE! babies, kids, teens, adults, seniors, and Zach Braff. Now, what do people usually do in hospitals? SLEEP! Now, imagine if it is in a highly populated area, Japan, India, etc. Now, babies won't survive the bites or infection, so 6 billion goes down. Possibly to 5.5 billion. Now, how it spreads, through rats, bugs, water, air, etc. Spreads to every continent. Now people who aren't infected in the first place are hunted. Considering we survive, we might be in the millions-to 2 billion.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Possible, yet unlikely. Probably some mutation or infection if anything.

 

[solidstatemind]

Because zombies aren't real. Lets say by chance one of those methods do ring true from that article. Lets go with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease because it's the most likely of them all. It's a fatal disease so even if it were to become common enough to infect enough people to cause even a small outbreak (It currently affects one in every one million people so that's a lot of infection rates to go up, and the people it shows up in tend to be older then 40, most commonly being seniors so they're not likely to be very fast) they'd all die in less then a year, four months being the average if no one killed them.
So pretty much it'll just be an outbreak of seniors who'll probably just break their legs trying to run after anyone and then lay on the ground in a heap where they can be set ablaze. The comedy site states that a bite can transfer it, I'm not sure but what I've looked up states that blood transfers can so it's possible but again unlikely (And I Wouldn't count on it since I don't think human saliva contains proteins, but I may be wrong on this count) to infect someone.

Oh jesus. Let's NOT talk about CJD, okay? That shit is scary as fuck: although it won't turn you into a zombie, it'll turn your brain into a sponge and kill your ass dead, and that's it... and all it is is a protein folded the wrong way!

Regardless, BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy-- aka Mad Cow disease) and CJD illustrate why a zombie apocalypse could never happen: virii don't distinguish between different areas of the brain. They simply go 'cell type we like... YUM! Let's convert it into a factory to make more of us!' It doesn't matter if it's in the hippocampus or the brain stem... it's all neurons to the virus.

Look, Nanotechnology might be able to render a person into a controllable, seemingly mindless state, but the classic version of a zombie: ie.- a person who is dead and reanimates- will never happen, because dead tissue is decomposing from about five minutes after the blood stops flowing, and decomposing tissue cannot perform useful functions anymore. (Cell walls break down; mitochondria stop working; in the case of nerve and muscle cells: electrical impulses are no longer transmitted because there is no ionic potential... the whole system just STOPS upon death.)

But hey, cling to the nanobot version if you're dreaming about a nightmare future...

 

[feather240]

I have to ask, how do you know alot about zombies?

It's like saying, "I know alot about minotaurs" Theres nothing to know. It doesn't exists so how do you know anything about it, other than it all in the imagination.

If I am right in saying, before 28 days later all zombies were incredibly slow, undead things that could only kill by sneaking up on you and only did so for food (which they always wanted). After 28 days later they could sprint a marathon, were angry as hell and wanted to kill you for funzies or food.

I think he means zombie lore and pop culture.

On the off chance that a virus is formed which neutralizes all parts of your brain but your basics it appears that it would kill you, but there are a lot of people in the world. Some might last for minutes well other last for weeks, maybe months, and that's without a food source. The biggest threat will be death, not the zombies.

 

[ucciolord1]

4. Zombies aren't real.

*harrummph*
That's what you think. The slow-moving silhouettes clawing at my window beg to differ.
Break out the gasoline and miniguns!

 

[solidstatemind]

Because zombies aren't real. Lets say by chance one of those methods do ring true from that article. Lets go with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease because it's the most likely of them all. It's a fatal disease so even if it were to become common enough to infect enough people to cause even a small outbreak (It currently affects one in every one million people so that's a lot of infection rates to go up, and the people it shows up in tend to be older then 40, most commonly being seniors so they're not likely to be very fast) they'd all die in less then a year, four months being the average if no one killed them.
So pretty much it'll just be an outbreak of seniors who'll probably just break their legs trying to run after anyone and then lay on the ground in a heap where they can be set ablaze. The comedy site states that a bite can transfer it, I'm not sure but what I've looked up states that blood transfers can so it's possible but again unlikely (And I Wouldn't count on it since I don't think human saliva contains proteins, but I may be wrong on this count) to infect someone.

Oh jesus. Let's NOT talk about CJD, okay? That shit is scary as fuck: although it won't turn you into a zombie, it'll turn your brain into a sponge and kill your ass dead, and that's it... and all it is is a protein folded the wrong way!

Regardless, BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy-- aka Mad Cow disease) and CJD illustrate why a zombie apocalypse could never happen: virii don't distinguish between different areas of the brain. They simply go 'cell type we like... YUM! Let's convert it into a factory to make more of us!' It doesn't matter if it's in the hippocampus or the brain stem... it's all neurons to the virus.

Look, Nanotechnology might be able to render a person into a controllable, seemingly mindless state, but the classic version of a zombie: ie.- a person who is dead and reanimates- will never happen, because dead tissue is decomposing from about five minutes after the blood stops flowing, and decomposing tissue cannot perform useful functions anymore. (Cell walls break down, in the case of nerve and muscle cells: electrical impulses are no longer transmitted because there is no ionic potential... the whole system just STOPS upon death.)

But hey, cling to the nanobot version if you're dreaming about a nightmare future...

They won't listen to you.

But I am gonna fight the good fight anyway; just like you...

BTW, I think you're right: protein-based virii couldn't be transmitted by bite, because saliva begins the breakdown of proteins, IIRC. (Admittedly, it's been a LONG time since Micro-, and I'm too lazy to look it up right now...)

 

[Julianking93]

http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html You might wanna check this out. And stock pile on egg loaf.

Ah. Damn it, ninja'd me to it.