I completely agree with you. Also all the other bands that followed and tried to be like Nirvana, they're all horrible.PlainTwo said:Nirvana.
Sorry, but I think they're overrated.
i tend to listen to them when i'm frustrated and pissed.funguy2121 said:"Bland, boring, and lifeless..."captainkrunch said:Tool, i don't see the attraction nearly every person i know looks up to tool like they are godly and ive been forced to listen to MANY of their songs and i haven't found 1 song that doesn't sound bland boring and lifeless
Please, edify me. I've heard Sonic Youth tunes that quickly grew stale b/c they never went anywhere, they were more sonic ideas than songs. And I've heard complete thought-cum-songs out of them that blew me away. At the heart of the band is the husband-and-wife team so tell me, how is Sonic Youth even considered "riot grrrrrrrrrrrrl?" They sounded to me like Nirvana on acid, with a great deal more creativity and an occasional distaste for finishing a song. They didn't sound any more riot grrl to me than the go-go's. But maybe you know more than me. I never cared much for the Bikini Kill - Huggy Bear - Bratmobile music, some of it sounded interesting at first but there was never enough to keep my attention. It was all so - stark. I do love me some Sleater-Kinney, though, and not just because all of their drummers have been hot. They were a lot less narrow than some of their counterparts. Also: Le Tigre makes me want to pull my ears off.Phoenix Arrow said:It makes perfect sense. While I don't hate the music of the likes of Nirvana and Sonic Youth, I hate them for what they stand for. Sonic Youth for totally undermining the riot grrrl movement and everything it stood for, and Nirvana because of the members. Both individually and as a whole. The band was Kurt Cobain, let's not piss around the bush. Dave Grohl doesn't recognise this and thinks he has some kind of god given right to be a dick because Kurt picked him out of a lineup to play the drums in his band. He has no talent and Courtney Love had more input into Nirvana than he did. Kurt Cobain was bareable, if only just, but the second he shot himself (AND YES HE DID SHOOT HIMSELF) it was like every Nirvana fan took leave of their senses and blamed everyone but Kurt for his death because he was the second coming and anyone who doesn't agree is clearly an idiot. He was fucking depressed, let it go.SonicKoala said:How do you hate a band "on principle"? That doesn't even make sense, that just sounds like you're hating something just for the sake of hating it.Phoenix Arrow said:Snip
Some Christian Rock is actually good, and by some I mean Flyleaf and by Flyleaf I mean it's a female voice that isn't commonly used in Alternative, so it feels fresh. Plus it's more uplifting then what I am used to.Marksman18v said:Christian rock sells for some reason, and also those guys seem make VAlerie GINAstri's "business" all soft and tingly <_<Giovanto said:Too right, they're talented kids but the whole purity ring thing is stupid. It's a good Christian symbol but they're using it to sell records.Marksman18v said:Jonas Brothers and everything related to the goresucking braindraining pre-teen leech-child High school musical.
Caps are obviously meant like that... in case the reborn retarded 11 year old walks by :/
Every time I hear a song from these pricks or a themesong from HSM 1, 2, 3 or 15^38.223 it makes my blood curdle, my eyes spout blood, and my anus to unevidently selfcombust, effectively leading me to the nearest surgeon who will have to try and save my horror riddled body and mind.
Yes, I hate them. It may be biased bs suck this hate, but hate nontheless![]()
Beatlemania, anyone?Phoenix Arrow said:What? I just explained why I don't like Nirvana ffs. "While I don't hate the music of the likes of Nirvana and Sonic Youth, I hate them for what they stand for." As I said, Nirvana stand for being melodramatic, they introduced Grohl to the world and they were the first band to have fanboys. Whining little things that bleed out of their collective vagina any time anyone says anything negative about them. They made some good tunes though. Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle for example.Squarez said:You say you hated the band on principle, but as you just said, Kurt "was" the band, so by saying that you're arguments about Grohl and Love are irrelevant. So you must by your own admission hate Kurt Cobain "on principle" which confuses me.Phoenix Arrow said:It makes perfect sense. While I don't hate the music of the likes of Nirvana and Sonic Youth, I hate them for what they stand for. Sonic Youth for totally undermining the riot grrrl movement and everything it stood for, and Nirvana because of the members. Both individually and as a whole. The band was Kurt Cobain, let's not piss around the bush. Dave Grohl doesn't recognise this and thinks he has some kind of god given right to be a dick because Kurt picked him out of a lineup to play the drums in his band. He has no talent and Courtney Love had more input into Nirvana than he did. Kurt Cobain was bareable, if only just, but the second he shot himself (AND YES HE DID SHOOT HIMSELF) it was like every Nirvana fan took leave of their senses and blamed everyone but Kurt for his death because he was the second coming and anyone who doesn't agree is clearly an idiot. He was fucking depressed, let it go.SonicKoala said:How do you hate a band "on principle"? That doesn't even make sense, that just sounds like you're hating something just for the sake of hating it.Phoenix Arrow said:Snip
Sorry, I'm being too harsh on you. Your profile says your from Portsmouth and I know they don't teach literacy at either end of the M27.![]()
Very clever, but you never said that you hated them for being melodramtic or that they introduced fanboys, you said you hated them for the members (which contradicts what you said about Kurt "being" the band). What you're doing is confusing literacy with the ability to read minds.Phoenix Arrow said:*Snip*
No stereotypes please. Although, I do agree about those bands.scorch 13 said:Lets see *clearing throat* jonas brothers,hannah montana,green day,fallout boy,and anything else that can be associated with emo fags.
FanBOYs.thebobmaster said:Beatlemania, anyone?
First of all, Le Tigre aren't riot grrrl. They just have Kathleen Hanna in them so that's what people class them as. Sleater-Kinney were just about the only band of the movement that sang properly. Kathleen from Bikini Kill could sing really well, just chose not to.funguy2121 said:Please, edify me. I've heard Sonic Youth tunes that quickly grew stale b/c they never went anywhere, they were more sonic ideas than songs. And I've heard complete thought-cum-songs out of them that blew me away. At the heart of the band is the husband-and-wife team so tell me, how is Sonic Youth even considered "riot grrrrrrrrrrrrl?" They sounded to me like Nirvana on acid, with a great deal more creativity and an occasional distaste for finishing a song. They didn't sound any more riot grrl to me than the go-go's. But maybe you know more than me. I never cared much for the Bikini Kill - Huggy Bear - Bratmobile music, some of it sounded interesting at first but there was never enough to keep my attention. It was all so - stark. I do love me some Sleater-Kinney, though, and not just because all of their drummers have been hot. They were a lot less narrow than some of their counterparts. Also: Le Tigre makes me want to pull my ears off.
I'll grant you this one. I respect the Beatles greatly, however I can't stand to hear them. Some of their songs are even good if they aren't the ones performing them (Elenor Rigby is awesome when played by Godhead, but by the Beatles it is painful).Aws said:I gotta say I can't stand The Beatles.
I heard that Kurt wrote heart shaped box about courtney's vagina. That's heresay, though. Sonic Youth has quite an expansive catalogue, so you could listen to one album and think it's trash, and hear another one and absolutely love it. I don't think it's fair, however, to call them sellouts, as I've never heard anything like it except for later bands that mentioned them as an influence. I do agree regarding Hole - a friend used to refer to their big MTV "comeback" as Fleetwood Mac part deaux.Phoenix Arrow said:snip