President Obama Awarded Nobel Peace Prize
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Well, if winning the prize inspires him to follow through on all of his rhetoric then I would say it's worth giving it to him, even if he hasn't accomplished much yet.
I don't feel like arguing if you insist on being condescending to a viewpoint that is not your own.mspencer82 said:
Glad to be of help clarifying the Nobel Peace Prize.chiggerwood said:
As for the rest, there is so much ignorance in those statements, so much aversive racism, and so much unpacked privilege [http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html] that I don't even know where to begin. I'll just say this: there is so much ignorance of the history [http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/] behind all those words, and the lack of care to the way a person of color feels when hearing those words--there is a difference between a slur and reclaiming a word, one is used by a member of the a privileged group as a way of saying "You are less than me" and the other is used by a minority group as a way of saying "We're the same/you're no better than me" (because, after all, you can't slur someone for being a person of color or being gay if you yourself are the exact same (not unless you have a lot of inner, unresolved, internalized racism issues, and that is the fundamental point you are missing when you claim Hispanics call each other "wetback" and Blacks call each other "******"--note specifically the EACH OTHER bit, as in, people of the same racial group, and they are specifically using it because it is a member of the same group) that I'm not even going to bother. I've never much liked beating my head against a brick wall, and I've had this same argument too many times with too many people who aggressively don't want to examine their own straight, white, male privilege that I'm sick of it, because it's always another verse the same as the first.
Your mother is using words that have historically--and still are--used to denigrate, belittle, and dehumanize people and "put them in their place" [ie, "below me, a member of a privileged majority/you are a lesser human than me because of your race/gender/sexuality", and have the weight of that history working as a slap in the face to the POC who hear it. She is not nearly so open-minded as you, or she, seems to think, and good day to you, sir.
I'm a she, by the way.BehattedWanderer said:
And yeah, ye gods, the lack of reading, critical thinking, and/or knowledge of history (I would say of the awards, but reading some of these comments, I see it's a lack of knowledge of history in general) that is going on is kinda depressing.
It was a political strategy in an attempt to boost the morale of the country, or the liberals and left wing moderates anyway. The exploitation of the Nobel Prize is truly a disgrace to everyone else who's ever worked hard enough to acquire such a feat.
Hey, Norwegians love Barack Obama. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff]Doug said:
On-topic, it may be premature, but if it inspires Barack Obama to follow through on his promises, then it is worth it.
So you are, and here I sit, corrected. I do apologize.yeah_so_no said:I'm a she, by the way.
I would get all noble and enigmatic, and say something about "We must educate the masses!" but I catch enough lip already, and I usually don't take up hopeless tasks. Especially one that daunting. Almost makes me want to be a teacher, just for the reason that I could educate people back when they were apt to listen and not just blow you off and think you're retarded. The loss of critical thinking, though, I do mourn, like a lost friend. What's sad is it's getting more and more rare.
Yasser Arafat was directly responsible for the deaths of more Palestinians and Iraelis than any leader in recent memory. Were his ideals progressive? Its the modern day equivalent of awarding Stalin with a prize for his recognition of human rights.mattag08 said:
