Zachary Amaranth said:
Well... I know he did have to put money into an account to take care of the dogs involved in the fighting ring. It was court appointed, but still. ANd he does have two Charities. well.. maybe, I'm not sure if they're still up after he went to Prison, but I know he did set two up. I dont know, just saying. I mean, I agree, playing football wont do anything, but he is (or at least was, though i think he would still be involved) in Charities.
Isolda Sage said:
Its not that hard. You just put snip in the quote. Like this:
Looks like this when done properly, though you dont include the spaces or *s
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But on Topic, I'm glad you know Michael Vick personally, so that you can say with absolutely certainty that he "enjoyed it." Since you do, and you didnt testify, thats called accessory in the legal court. Just so you know. Anyhting else is slander, or libel, though I think its slander since you're saying it and not publish writing it. Both of course are illegal and punishable by fine and perhaps jail time, depending how much the Judge hates you.
ANd Personally, and this is just me, you really shouldnt talk about this man's short comings. The thread has gotten so off topic since we're digging up the man's past, and this is about Obama's action, not Vick's. BUt you didnt know about the case until it was publicized, and there are so many worse things in the NFL (as pointed out, there's a convicted Murderer and a convicted wife beater). So maybe he is playing a violent sport, but its been a few years since, and he hasnt regressed. So I dont see anything wrong with Obama congratulating the coach. Sure, maybe its Celebrity, but its what the President does, he makes these little appearance things. Its what any president does. People just complain when Obama does it cause they dont agree with his policies (and thats good for you if you odnt. I didnt agree with Bush's policies, but I dont criticize him for making the highest NHL team point wise the "president's choice" or when he goes out and throws the opening pitch for the baseball game). You're just complaining because this man was associated with a dog ring. And you should be, but that doesnt mean this man should be hanged, or killed with fire, or sent to the deepest lake of ice in Hell.
Nor should you complain that Obama is congratulating the coach. He's giving a feel good story. Would you rather hear about the rapes, murders, deaths, arsons, and thefts int he world? Or all the people who were killed in war? People like a feel good story on something they can all relate to. In this case its about a rehibilitated man who is playing (American) football, working off his debts, and turning his life around. He knows he'll have this hang over his head for all his life. He doenst need a constant reminder of it. Let the man go, let him be happy and live his life, just get past. Its not like he denies this stuff.
Now in regards to my friend's dogs (which i dont even know why I should talk about it since it was an example) no, they dont need training. Its something that happened once, and we handled it. The dog loves his neice (now four), and is insanely protective of her and the two are best friends. It was just the toy, something about it woke up something in the dog's subconscious. We're not going to train it never to growl, this is a dog that is used for home defense. Its taught to leap, not to fight. Taught to bark, not to bite. you odnt hit a dog until it growls and bites and gets aggressive then get aggressive back and teach it not to be aggressive and defend itself just so you can hit it more. So dont tell me to tell my friend how to raise his dogs, when he's been doing it for 8 years now, and has lived with them for 15 (he's 18). There's no reason you cant have a guard dog and a loving pet.