Producer Says Dead Island is More Borderlands than Heavy Rain

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Slaanax

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This game has to be one of the best games ever made or this game will get torn apart by the unwashed masses.
 

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Jumplion said:
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Am I the only one that thinks the people judging this game by this one trailer are retards?
The trailer shows no game play whatsoever. I don't see any problem with this game being similar to borderlands. What they are trying to make is a game with strong single player and multilayer modes that tie in with each other borderlands style (I think, details are still fuzzy). I for one am going to do the common sense thing and wait for more details before I form an opinion on this game.
A trailer may not show gameplay, but it does give the idea of what the company is trying to do with the game they have. You don't make a wacky, over the top trailer for a dark, sombre movie, and you don't make a depressing and shocking trailer (they killed a kid in it) for an over-the-top game. Especially when that over-the-top game is most likely going to be yet another zombie game with standard blood and guts.
My entire opinion can be summed up in Jumplion's posts throughout this thread.

Good show, sir.
 

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Jumplion said:
Fuck you Deep Silver/Techland.

You release a trailer that tugs the strings of people's hearts everywhere. It looked like it would take the zombie concept further into the story of a survivor, how people really would react in an emergency situation. It doesn't have to be Heavy Rain, why the hell would it? It draws some parallels, sure, but then again you're the ones who made it.

You are all disgusting. You used the death of a little girl to promote your game through both emotional appeal and shocking appeal. You paint your game as a somber tale, that it would go into the situations of a zombie emergency that, if done right, could be very interesting. You don't just make a trailer like that and immediately go "Oh! Yeah, dude, we're totally going to make it, like, Borderlands and shit, dude!".

Screw you, Deep Silver/Techland, for screwing with us and manipulating the public.

Geoff Keighley was right. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv-SQc6LA2E&feature=player_embedded#at=174]

[sup]I know we haven't seen gameplay of it, but if the game was nothing like the trailer then they shouldn't have made it so.[/sup]

Woah woah woah, hold your horses there. I think what they meant is that many people likened it to a mostly cinematic experience rather than a gameplay heavy game, like Heavy Rain.

That doesn't mean it won't be emotional, or tug at your heart strings, or be a sombre tale. It just isn't going to do that by making 90% of the game a movie. By the looks of it, you're playing a family man trying to protect his family, and it doesn't have the quirkiness that Dead Rising does.
Here's the Dead Island trailer from way back when.

That's be quite a tone change.

Edit: According to their site, none of the 4 main characters resemble the man in the trailer.
http://deadisland.deepsilver.com/characters.php
 

SelectivelyEvil13

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Did anyone actually think that a game with zombies would play like a slow origami killer crime drama game? At it's heart, Dead Island is a zombie games.


Sure a little girl becomes a zombie and kills her parents, and it is emotional to viewers. However, how many times do we see somebody's son or daughter, somebody's mother or father, somebody's best friend, somebody's husband or wife, ect. get zombified just to kill someone close to them? Take any zombie thriller or video game, slow things down, and add a somber background song, and perhaps viewers will also find many scenes emotional.

I think people have become a bit removed from zombies and the plight of loved ones during a "zombie crisis" as depicted in modern media. As with any real or fictional worldwide disastrous event, emotions will fly

But once the "game part" kicks in, now "survival" is introduced. Is a slow, thought-provoking story conducive to the fact that zombie epidemics in media are fast paced outbreaks where the protagonist can NEVER rest under the idealistic pretense that it is now safe?

Now those two ideas may seem contradictory, but please think about it: Addictive gameplay that keeps the player coming back + Provocative story and situation. Huh, maybe someone out there actually wants to do the zombie thing a little differently. I sure hope so because otherwise the zombie movement for media is getting downright stale.

Gameplay can be fun and addictive without also being silly Zombie massacring via tanning umbrellas and miniature palm trees. Heavy Rain is being criticized in the article because it is like a DVD menu (but less complex), so for those who want deep games and not DVD menu, interactive movies, embrace good story + good gameplay. ;)
 

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"Emotional involvement? Storyline? Atmosphere? Innovation? Faaaawk no, this game's 'bout zombies comin' up the hell right nah."

Thanks, guy. Real reassuring. Generic action-horror? Of course we want another one!

Still. It's early days yet. We'll see how this goes..
 

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I thought it was more Dead Rising + Left 4 Dead stewed up into some sort of delicious blend than Heavy Rain.

I hope it isn't like Borderlands, though; I thought that that game was awfully dull.
 

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No offense but when people compare your game to say heavy rain, it's probably because you don't out zombies or any gameplay in the trailer, sorry I understand that if trailers were all Gameplay than it'd be boring but it would make the game's content more obvious.
 

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The fact that it's "not like Heavy Rain" does not in and of itself concern me one bit, but I am a little bit suspicious of the vigor with which they felt the need to differentiate themselves from it.
 

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Sylocat said:
The fact that it's "not like Heavy Rain" does not in and of itself concern me one bit, but I am a little bit suspicious of the vigor with which they felt the need to differentiate themselves from it.
That's a good (and ominous) point.

QTEs incoming.
 

Kermi

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People thought this game was going to be a story/character driven emotional narrative because of one fucking trailer. I said as soon as I saw it it was just another zombie-killing game and got shouted down for it. Well looky here, it's just another zombie killing game, and Christ I hope it's the last for a long time. So over it.
 

Feste the Jester

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I'm still interested in seeing this game Mr. Developer. Now please display some gameplay footage so we can actually see the game, and not just a cinematic trailer (albeit a good one).
 

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Jumplion said:
Fuck you Deep Silver/Techland.

You release a trailer that tugs the strings of people's hearts everywhere. It looked like it would take the zombie concept further into the story of a survivor, how people really would react in an emergency situation. It doesn't have to be Heavy Rain, why the hell would it? It draws some parallels, sure, but then again you're the ones who made it.

You are all disgusting. You used the death of a little girl to promote your game through both emotional appeal and shocking appeal. You paint your game as a somber tale, that it would go into the situations of a zombie emergency that, if done right, could be very interesting. You don't just make a trailer like that and immediately go "Oh! Yeah, dude, we're totally going to make it, like, Borderlands and shit, dude!".

Screw you, Deep Silver/Techland, for screwing with us and manipulating the public.

Geoff Keighley was right. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv-SQc6LA2E&feature=player_embedded#at=174]

[sup]I know we haven't seen gameplay of it, but if the game was nothing like the trailer then they shouldn't have made it so.[/sup]
You realize of course that it's still entirely possible that the story is moving and intriguing? They were talking entirely about the gameplay here, they didn't mention anything about the story. It's possible to have gameplay like borderlands (frantic and action packed) and still have a story in between those moments, or the goals you're working for (saving your family perhaps) still be interesting.

Now, I'm not saying that's what IS going to happen, but I am saying it's POSSIBLE. We still don't really know what the game is about, and it is WAY too early to pass judgement.
 

Jumplion

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Hexenwolf said:
You realize of course that it's still entirely possible that the story is moving and intriguing? They were talking entirely about the gameplay here, they didn't mention anything about the story. It's possible to have gameplay like borderlands (frantic and action packed) and still have a story in between those moments, or the goals you're working for (saving your family perhaps) still be interesting.

Now, I'm not saying that's what IS going to happen, but I am saying it's POSSIBLE. We still don't really know what the game is about, and it is WAY too early to pass judgement.
Again, I admit that I have probably jumped a few guns, but that still doesn't make me any less suspicious of this game. I'm being cautiously pessimistic about this for now...

EDIT: Also, this [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/115/1153496p1.html]
 

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Jumplion said:
Geoff Keighley was right. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv-SQc6LA2E&feature=player_embedded#at=174]
His name isn't Geoff Keighley... It's Geoff LAZER Ramsey.

Honestly, how can you mess up a man's name when it has Lazer in it?

As for the trailer, I looked up some information before, and figured it wouldn't be as deep as the trailer made it seem so no real surprise here. Would I like to see a deeper zombie game? Yeah, but I knew it likely wasn't going to from thing one.
 

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......Someone needs to make a Heavy Rain style Zombie game. Seriously, I'm incredibly disappointed in the choice of making it like Borderlands, mainly because I did not like Borderlands.