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October Country

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I recently read an interesting article concerning the legalization of prostitution. One point (that might offend certain people) was that the journalist discussed what actually differentiate this specific job and say the job of bus driver or a nursery teacher. Prostitutes who offer a physical service in exchange for money which a lot of people do in the work field, use their body or specific skills in order to make a living.

Now the question here is obviously what makes prostitution so different from other types of work that it needs to be in a category for it self. Is it because sex and the selling thereof is taboo in our society? Is it beacause of the fear that the prostitutes are being forced into it and taken advantage of and thereby recieve great psycological damage?
Prostitutes bring happiness into many lives and people pay for all kinds of things that give them pleasure - physical or mental, be it video games, food, massages, etc.

In conclusion: What is the difference between prostitution and the rest of the labour market and do you find anything ethical wrong in selling sex?
 

Chickenlittle

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IMO, it's considered wrong and "immoral" because the people in charge would be embarrassed if caught receiving their "services". That's the main reason it is illegal.
 

black lincon

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the main difference is that prostitutes sell their vaginas or penises. No other job has you doing that.

I don;t find anything ethically wrong with it but there are plenty of people who do. this might be one of the few cases where there are more people who actually want it banned for a halfway decent reason. the halfway decent reason being humans are the only fully monogamous animal and we like to keep it that way, I.E. a man having sex with multiple women is seen as bad in our society.
 

axia777

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It should be legalized because no matter how much the "Moral" people want to they can never get rid of it. Make all of America like the Bunny Ranch, even Utah.

It is work, just like Porn is. It is not wrong because sex is human nature.

black lincon said:
the main difference is that prostitutes sell their vaginas or penises. No other job has you doing that.
WRONG. Porn workers get taxed and are legal workers. I see NO difference between prostitutes and porn workers.
 

NekoAnastasia

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Although it wouldn't be my choice, a person's body is their own, and it should be their legal right to do what they like with it providing that everyone involved has given informed consent. That usually isn't the case, however. For instance, it's not legally possible to consent to being assaulted, which also seems nonsensical to me.

I don't really think morals enter into the equation. If a woman wants to sell sex and someone else wants to buy it, that should be their right, I wouldn't consider it immoral as they're not hurting anyone. I don't feel it's for me, or anyone else to decide whether or not the actions of two consenting adults is ethical.

On the one hand, making it legal would allow for greater safeguards, health checks etc, but on the other, it may also make it possible for vulnerable young girls who desperately need money to do something they may regret.
 

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Sex shouldn't be bought with money...I'm not religious but sex is something I'd only want to do with someone I loved(or at least knew remotely, or danced with at a party, or threw up on at a party, etc.)
 

October Country

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black lincon said:
the main difference is that prostitutes sell their vaginas or penises. No other job has you doing that.

I don;t find anything ethically wrong with it but there are plenty of people who do. this might be one of the few cases where there are more people who actually want it banned for a halfway decent reason. the halfway decent reason being humans are the only fully monogamous animal and we like to keep it that way, I.E. a man having sex with multiple women is seen as bad in our society.
First point: Then what is the difference between selling one's vagina and one's hand, or brain for that matter (besides the obvious of course)? You basically perform a job with a part of your body, everyone does it.
Second point: Humans are in no way fully monogamous, not by nature anyway. It is just our puritan society that sees monogamy as the ideal, but there are plenty of examples of people and societies where polygamy is accepted as the norm.
 

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I think its mostly a religion thing...its wrong in christianity and therefore looked down upon and "immoral"...
 

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October Country said:
black lincon said:
the main difference is that prostitutes sell their vaginas or penises. No other job has you doing that.

I don;t find anything ethically wrong with it but there are plenty of people who do. this might be one of the few cases where there are more people who actually want it banned for a halfway decent reason. the halfway decent reason being humans are the only fully monogamous animal and we like to keep it that way, I.E. a man having sex with multiple women is seen as bad in our society.
First point: Then what is the difference between selling one's vagina and one's hand, or brain for that matter (besides the obvious of course)? You basically perform a job with a part of your body, everyone does it.
Second point: Humans are in no way fully monogamous, not by nature anyway. It is just our puritan society that sees monogamy as the ideal, but there are plenty of examples of people and societies where polygamy is accepted as the norm.
1) can you be a female prostitute? really you can't? so apparently there is a difference between using your hands to get money and selling your vagina/penis to get money.
2) how many modern societies can you name that are polygamist? most of the world still has a religion, all major religions(Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) use monotheistic teachings. Now there are certain small sects of Christianity(not Mormon) who are still polygamist, and their are some native religions and culture's who don't believe polygamy is wrong, but most of the world falls into the monogamist column.

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Lil_Hank93 said:
I think its mostly a religion thing...its wrong in christianity and therefore looked down upon and "immoral"...
all major religions think its wrong. monogamy is a teaching shared by most religions.
 

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NekoAnastasia said:
Although it wouldn't be my choice, a person's body is their own, and it should be their legal right to do what they like with it providing that everyone involved has given informed consent. That usually isn't the case, however. For instance, it's not legally possible to consent to being assaulted, which also seems nonsensical to me.

I don't really think morals enter into the equation. If a woman wants to sell sex and someone else wants to buy it, that should be their right, I wouldn't consider it immoral as they're not hurting anyone. I don't feel it's for me, or anyone else to decide whether or not the actions of two consenting adults is ethical.

On the one hand, making it legal would allow for greater safeguards, health checks etc, but on the other, it may also make it possible for vulnerable young girls who desperately need money to do something they may regret.
I agree with this.
 

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Prostitution is wrong.
Wrong as in "All women are prostitutes".

Why are women attracted to money and everything coming with it, such as:
Fast/Cool cars
Diamonds
Gifts
"Romance"
More Gifts
Diamonds
A large house
And wait, here's the finale; Dating

If being dated/courted by a guy is not prostitution, then you're not putting out.
Why is the guy paying for everything? Because he is the pimp, and the woman will continue to remain his prostitute/hooker until she stumbles across another and better pimp, or the guy in question is broke.

NO POINT IN LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION, IT'S ALREADY LEGAL! :)
 

ForrestDixon

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I think that prostitution should be legal. Why? Because you will notice that in countrys that allow drinking at MUCH younger age, say 12 to 13, have much less deaths and drinking problems then in America (I dont have all of the hard numbers but you can look it up).


This being said, I think that prostitution is considered "highly dangerus" because it is so "forbidion." There isnt much problems with prostitution in other countrys because they dont make a big deal about it.

And it all comes down to the fact thtat its there body not ours let them do what they please whether you like it or not. Also, what if there was a girl that liked me and I liked her and we had sex and I liked it so much that I ended up tipping her. What would that be called?
You cant call it "Prostitution" because all I did was tip her.
 

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Nothing is wrong with selling sex, as long as the person doesn't have an STD(good luck), if it were run by the government, it would make a lot of money from the desperate. By the way most people are against it because of religion, my stance on that is: fuck religion!
 

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s0denone said:
Prostitution is wrong.
Wrong as in "All women are prostitutes".

Why are women attracted to money and everything coming with it, such as:
Fast/Cool cars
Diamonds
Gifts
"Romance"
More Gifts
Diamonds
A large house
And wait, here's the finale; Dating

If being dated/courted by a guy is not prostitution, then you're not putting out.
Why is the guy paying for everything? Because he is the pimp, and the woman will continue to remain his prostitute/hooker until she stumbles across another and better pimp, or the guy in question is broke.

NO POINT IN LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION, IT'S ALREADY LEGAL! :)
That's rather shockingly offensive, and baseless.
It implies that sex is nothing but a power-tool and doesn't allow for the possibility of couples sharing intimacy mutually, or that women can enjoy sex because it's pleasurable, too. The notion of a man paying for everything is outdated and inaccurate, and the stereotype comes from a reasonable expectation during times when men worked and women weren't allowed to, which is no longer the case.
 

s0denone

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NekoAnastasia said:
s0denone said:
Prostitution is wrong.
Wrong as in "All women are prostitutes".

Why are women attracted to money and everything coming with it, such as:
Fast/Cool cars
Diamonds
Gifts
"Romance"
More Gifts
Diamonds
A large house
And wait, here's the finale; Dating

If being dated/courted by a guy is not prostitution, then you're not putting out.
Why is the guy paying for everything? Because he is the pimp, and the woman will continue to remain his prostitute/hooker until she stumbles across another and better pimp, or the guy in question is broke.

NO POINT IN LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION, IT'S ALREADY LEGAL! :)
That's rather shockingly offensive, and baseless.
It implies that sex is nothing but a power-tool and doesn't allow for the possibility of couples sharing intimacy mutually, or that women can enjoy sex because it's pleasurable, too. The notion of a man paying for everything is outdated and inaccurate, and the stereotype comes from a reasonable expectation during times when men worked and women weren't allowed to, which is no longer the case.
You needed to take my post with a grain of salt, a rather shockingly humongous amount of grains in fact.
Sex is a power-tool, though, isn't it? Regardless of who's paying for what.
 

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My main issue with prostitution is when young girls (and sometimes boys) are forced into it. If it was legalized, there would hopefully be regulation, such as health checks and age restrictions. If you can't find someone who will have sex with you without getting paid, I figure why not pay someone willing to do the nasty as a living?
 

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s0denone said:
NekoAnastasia said:
You needed to take my post with a grain of salt, a rather shockingly humongous amount of grains in fact.
Sex is a power-tool, though, isn't it? Regardless of who's paying for what.
No, it isn't. Sex is an action, and like any action, it can have a variety of motivations behind it, that doesn't make it exclusively one motivational tool. Plenty of women want to have sex with a man because they enjoy sex, or they want to share physical intimacy with him, irrespective of the size of his wallet. To say that all women are prostitutes is to say that it is impossible for women to want sex of their own accord.

Sex is not something that is done to women, it is a mutual action that both parties can enjoy. The notion that men want sex more than women is a false one, many women are just as, if not more so, sexual than men; our magazines are filled with it and we spend are more on "toys" and lingerie than men do. It seems most men haven't cottoned onto this, and yes, some women use it as way of getting other things that they want, but that is by no means the majority, let alone the entire sex. Furthermore, categorising sex as a power-tool used by women completely negates the possibility of sexually submissive women, who enjoy the power balance the other way around.

Rather than me taking your comments that "all women are prostitutes" with a grain of salt, perhaps you should be the one not making sweeping generalisations with no support for your theory whatsoever?
 

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NekoAnastasia said:
s0denone said:
NekoAnastasia said:
You needed to take my post with a grain of salt, a rather shockingly humongous amount of grains in fact.
Sex is a power-tool, though, isn't it? Regardless of who's paying for what.
The notion that men want sex more than women is a false one, many women are just as, if not more so, sexual than men; our magazines are filled with it and we spend are more on "toys" and lingerie than men do.
Being "sexual"(Or in need of sex) doesn't mean spending money on lingerie, or on toys.


Rather than me taking your comments that "all women are prostitutes" with a grain of salt, perhaps you should be the one not making sweeping generalisations with no support for your theory whatsoever?
I asked you to take my ludicrous claim with a grain of salt, as - you know - it was exagerrated terribly. The fact that you're taking offence makes me judge you as either a passive-aggressive... excuse me, passively-active, feminist. Or a lesbian.


The truth of the matter is that if a woman ask a man to have sex the first time they meet, could be in a club, in a restaurant, in a bar: He will say yes, no hesitating.

If a man ask a woman the same thing, she will not say yes, she WANTS THE CHASE. She wants the man to DO SOMETHING to show her that he's interested/attracted. She wants compliments, gifts, flirting: The fact that in order to obtain one thing, one is required to comply with certain requirements makes the thing, by definition, a power-tool... Doesn't it?

Feel free to stamp me a male chauvinist, or whatever; It's fact that women want to be treated like princesses, want to feel special, want the man to show her that he wants her. In return of this, they give their "Love" and "Devotion" and Sex.

Sure times are changing, I'll try to embrace it to the best of my ability, but that doesn't change the fact that males have always fought for the right to copulate with females, with other males; To impress - and most likely always will.

You will also have to excuse my terrible rhetoric, but I'm very tired.
 

Midnghtjade83

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Really? A man will -always- say yes to sex from random strangers in a club? Doesn't that make the man the prostitute? Or at the very least, a whore? :p