PS3 comeback

[Zersy]

Now that the PS3 is finally developing into a young lady, I've been wondering if it will finally exceed the popularity of its competitors. The Wii is becoming a cult classic, much like the Gamecube was/is, and the XBOX360 is starting to suck up to corporate 'family friendly' marketing. Maybe because of these drawbacks, the sales of these systems would go down heavily.

I'm been convinced that over the next two years, PS3 sales will rise sharply because of games like Little Big Planet and Resistance 2. Other good games will come for the PS3 and because there are very few XBOX360 exclusives now, there's no reason to choose the 360 over PS3 anymore. It's no longer 600$, the only reason most people anti-fanboyed it to begin with, so nobody should hate it anymore. 2009 and 2010 should be the time of the Sony comeback.

Opinions?

the thing that will make PS3 domnent is simple advertising

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I think that the price drop for the 360 will affect sales, but with very few decent exclusives for 2009 (leading the charge with a console RTS? Really? I'll leave the more experienced PC gamers to say why that is a bad thing) I doubt it will be able to sustain it. Meanwhile the Ps3 has nearly all of SCE's studios, as well as a large amount of second and third party (What do Quantic Dream, Level 5 and Team Bondi count as? Anybody know?) talent working on a 2009 game, I would guess that its sales would likely be boosted considerably. But its never going to top the Wii.

Insomniac, Gurilla Studios.. The list goes on of studios favoring sony but actually not being in sonys pocket like Bungie was but still free to do what they want like a third-party devoloper.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

PS3 can never catch up to the Wii's huge lead in console sales. No matter the amount of good games that are coming out for it. Nintendo as sold a ridiculous amount of Wii's. And I think that because the PS3 is still more expensive then other consoles, it is still unlikely that everyone will buy it.

Well, according to a number of leaked reports, they are having a price reduction in March. Why march, and not now, who knows.

Eh, Never catch up? The ps2 sold over 100 million and is still going.. Thats a big install base if people ever get around to upgrading.(But sony just keeps feeding the ps2 games.)

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I have seen a few commercials lately:

PS3: Their marketing for X-Mas is "Have you started your wish list yet?" They only show LBP and I find it quite humorous that they think 1 game is a "Wish list".

Actually, there are 3 versions of that ad, showing Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and Ratchet and Clank Future: Quest for Booty as well (Why QfB? No idea - Sony weren't particularly kid friendly this year, but even so, Ultimate ninja Storm would have had more appeal and less feelings of betrayal). There are two more adds too, one of which just shows it off as a major entertainment platform - showing Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, and The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray (I'da gone with Mirrors Edge personally and just made an all new ad about its abilities as a media hub, but whatever) and one of which shows some highlights of the PsN (again, I would have picked The Last Guy and SOCOM: Confrontation instead of PAIN!)

Currently the new Socom is mildly broken, kinda like fable 2.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

The PS3 will also be improving its lineups and reducing cost again soon

That's not what Kaz Hirai said. Ok to be fair he said they weren't dropping it for the holidays (which is when it would've made sense)

It dropped to 400$ right around MGS4 launch. What? Your so greedy you want TWO price drops in a SINGLE year?

 

[aRealGuitarHero707]

i could really see the turning point for the PS3 to happen when they finally release Home
if it lives up to everyone's expectations then Microsoft loses its edge over the whole
"who has better online" debate

 

[Woe Is You]

Eh, Never catch up? The ps2 sold over 100 million and is still going.. Thats a big install base if people ever get around to upgrading.(But sony just keeps feeding the ps2 games.)

That's quite a big "if". It's not a given that they'll be upgrading anytime soon. For example, I know quite a few people who've gotten Wiis instead.

You're also comparing a console that had reached around 50 million sold consoles during its first 2 years to one that has yet to sell even half of that. Since most of the PS3s out in the market today have no PS2 support, incentives to upgrade are few.

 

[clarinetJWD]

Isn't the DS about the same price to? I don't know, can't remember the recent price tag for a DS.

PSP is $1999 and PSP 3000 is slightly more.

is a PSP really that much? I can buy 100 xboxes with that much money!
EDIT: 100 +or- 10

:facepalm: If you're going to make fun of someone for a numerical typo (Which is more than acceptable), check your math. $200x90 = $18000.

Anyways, I'll agree. I do see the PS3 gaining steam this year. THey said in the past that they could not afford to keep so many exclusives with their expensive hardware, but recently they seem to be getting more and more (especially LBP). I'm seriously considering buying one just for LBP myself!

Also, it's true. More and more games are being developed on the PS3 first. I speak from first had experience working for a game developer. I'm impartial to these console wars, owning only a Wii and a PC, two different animals, and I really do see sales picking up and surpassing the 360, especially if the rumored March price cuts are true.

 

[NeedAUserName]

It never really went away... It just didn't...

Alright I can't use words tonight for some odd reason, so a metaphor (or maybe a simile, one of the two)

Imagine it like a race with PS3, Wii, and xBox 360.

xBox had a big head start, and made good use of that.
Wii, cam along, and hit the ground running.
Then the PS3 jogs along, riding on a series on extremely mixed (in that some where good, i.e. MGS4 some were not i.e. Haze) exclusives. But say what you like, we are catching up, right now we aren't even that far away, so...

Be Prepared

 

[jamesworkshop]

Who cares Nintendo are the only one who seem to actually be making any money(profit) and so win the race reguardless of actual unit sales as PS3 consoles will never be sold for profit

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Who cares Nintendo are the only one who seem to actually be making any money(profit) and so win the race reguardless of actual unit sales as PS3 consoles will never be sold for profit

PS3 consoles will never be sold for profit but they make much more then an average wii in a lift time.(Games earn sony their profits.)

MSatan easily gets their money back from XBL while the marketplaces videos and such make little money seeing as movies and such are sonys thing.

 

[Bocaj2000]

Isn't the DS about the same price to? I don't know, can't remember the recent price tag for a DS.

PSP is $1999 and PSP 3000 is slightly more.

is a PSP really that much? I can buy 100 xboxes with that much money!
EDIT: 100 +or- 10

:facepalm: If you're going to make fun of someone for a numerical typo (Which is more than acceptable), check your math. $200x90 = $18000.

I honestly didn't think that it was a typo. I expect that kind of thing these days

 

[Kermi]

Sound requires by far the most space out of just about any game: textures, physics properties and models take relatively little compared to it. Eurogamer tells that most of the disc space is taken by tutorials, which pretty much says that Stephen Fry and the soundtracks are the biggest eaters of space.

Concessions would need to be made of course, but I don't really believe that a hypothetical 360 version would be "far less versatile". Especially now that the 360 lets you install games on it.

But a 360 port would never happen since Sony owns LittleBigPlanet. It would be like expecting Gears of War or Halo on the PS3.

Ok, for starters, don't believe anything that Eurogamer says about the Ps3, even on a tangental basis. Secondly, Media Molecule said a number of times a 360 port would be impossible, for so many reasons, a major one being that installing is not mandatory, and not all 360's have the Hard drives they need to function.

Yeah, I've heard the "a 360 port would be imnpossible" shit before. With MGS4 - then Kojima said "we're considering it". Doesn't mean it's happening, just that it's not technologically impossible.
Final Fantasy 13 was supposed to be impossible - for some reason blu-ray punters forgot about multi-discing, something that dates back to what, FF7 on the PS1?
LA Noire supposed to be beyond the capability of the 360 from a processing standpoint - but last I heard we were seeing a 360 version.

Sony and their indentured servants lie. Just like Microsoft and theirs. Remember when 2K had "no plans for a PS3 version of Bioshock"? Remember when Lost Planet was never going to see the shiny surface of a Blu-ray disc?

Timed exclusives have to look like permanent exclusives, otherwise there's less incentive to by the 'other' console. I'm NOT saying LBP is going to be ported. I'm NOT saying MGS4 is going to be ported. I'm just saying that from a technical standpoint, they probably could be ported with very little difficulty and no loss of gameplay quality. Sony and their contractually-bound developers will not admit this, especially if a shitload of money is riding on it.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

The PS3 is undeniably making a comeback, but despite this Microsoft still managed to sell slightly more consoles than Sony over the last twelve months, not many more though to be fair.

As for the PS3 outselling the Wii? Maybe, in the far future, but the Wii has a massive head start.

I've even brought a graph:

Aside from January, the Wii has consistently sold over 100,000 units every month and in some months over 200,000 units. The PS3, by contrast, peaked at 150,000 in December and has averaged at 50,000 every month after that.

As other people have mentioned, the Wii does not have a fantastic catalogue of exclusives to draw on, but a low price point, an emphasis on family fun in their advertising and a readily accessible control scheme means that it sells to demographics that Sony and Microsoft can't touch, not without a significant shift in focus anyway, which incidentally, we are seeing Microsoft do now.