PS3 comeback

[SteveDave]

In America maybe, America isn't the world.

And actually I was talking more about buying LBP.

When America is in recession the whole world is in one. Bailouts have been approved in both Japan and the UK, their banks suck too.

LBP is also not doing well anywhere. It is eight on the NPD charts overall. 400k in the US the first two weeks, 69,000 in Japan and it has dropped to nineteenth place on the NPD charts in the UK. Bad sales for a game that could have had better.

 

[Kermi]

It's not so much that they're working on Halo, it's that they're still working on Halo after they separated. I mean, what's the point of becoming a 3rd party developer if you're just going to do the same thing? Branch out a bit, heck I'd be content with a Marathon game even if it was exclusive.

Yes, they're making Recon - as I said already, probably as part of their parting terms with Microsoft. They've also announced this will be their last Halo title.

 

[SteveDave]

Anyways, Using the PS3s back catelogue of games, to add to the actual PS3's catelogue IS a valid tactic.
360, Launches with what, 20 games?
Ps3 Launches with 12 games + PS2 Library + PSX Library.
And even if the newer ps3's don't play PS2 games, they CAN and DO play Ps1 games. Hell, the PSN has PS1 Games on it for sale!

Because when someone buys their PS3 they can't wait to get home and play FF1.

 

[SteveDave]

when emulation software for the PS2 comes out, i'm betting a LOT of consumers will go for a PS3, it's the best thing they can add.

Sony can come last, so long as they turn profit, after all, considering how well the PS2 did, they can afford to.

Also this was my brother, brought an Xbox, 6 games for it, stopped playing with it and we played on my PS2, brought a 360, keeps trying to trade me for my PS3.

I know he isn't a grasp on the market, but that's the personal demographic in my house. He;s buying a PS3 for Christmas cause he wants one bad.

Like you said it is a personal demographic. You brother could just love Japanese RPGs a hell of a lot.

 

[SteveDave]

Actually, he hates there guts, as I said he wont buy any for the 360, I'm the JRPG lover.

He actually wants it (Brace yourself for this) for the soccer games, apparently there better on the PS3, he's actually what you call the 360 demographic, he likes shooters, and sports.

*shrugs* I dunno how his mind works, I know he doesn't like JRPGs, That is MY field of expertise.

Wow that is odd indeed. I hate Japanese RPGs myself, they all look the same to me (does that sound racist?).

And regarding LBP sales I think they would have been served better if sony has released it in Spring 09. the market is too cluttered for a new game to break into the market.

 

[Altorin]

it wouldn't be racist if you didn't ask if it was racist

because you did, it might seem a little racist

 

[SteveDave]

I don't think it's racist so much as generalized, WKC and pretty much anything by Level 5 is different, Samey, yes, exactly alike? well that's like saying all shooters are alike as in they fire guns.

I allways shout for growth in JRPG's I think they have been stagnant for a long while, and It pisses me off when a JRPG makes strides for growth (FFXII was genuinely different from the previous ones) and they it gets ranted on

(The game removed random encounters, kept the Active Time Bar system but removed 'Turn Based' You could program the AI of your Allies and yourself if your really lazy, actually the gambit system is something a FPSer would like, how often do you get pissed off when your AI Allies do stupid shit, Gambits pretty much gave you control over the AI so they stopped doing stupid shit. And yet the FF fanbase crucifies it for some reason)

Also yes, release time means everything, around Christmas is good, but not when everyone else is doing it to! I'm getting it for Christmas along with some games for my Wii, and a new PS2 (Case my old one Died after long years of service)but seriously we had full months where there was nothing out, that would have been a great time. Now nobody has the money.

What you said in your second paragraph is what I meant. Many Japanese developers have admitted that the west has overcome them in innovation. I'm gonna call it the Dynasty Warriors syndrome. People keep on buying their games so they don't change a damn thing.

And GTA proved that Christmas isn't everything. If you market the game right you can get sell anytime of the year. Please God, let someone release a good game in the summer.

 

[Knight Templar]

Well this year was suppost to be its big year, I don't see any earth shattering games coming out soon, so I think....

In dot form!
Next year.

- The Xbox 360 and PS3 will start to catch up on the Wii.
- PS3 and 360 will get more and more exclusives trying to stop the other from getting them.
- PS3 will do better than it has, not as good as the other conloses but closer.


So pretty much more of whats happening, oh yeah I see strange new things allright!

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

I actually expect new consoles very soon. Except a Wii successor.

 

[Woe Is You]

when emulation software for the PS2 comes out, i'm betting a LOT of consumers will go for a PS3, it's the best thing they can add.

They already removed it once, so I doubt they'll be adding it again anytime soon. I've previously stated loads of times that it's one of the most bizarre moves this generation and really left me with no incentive to get a PS3 at all. Since, let's face it, this generation is all about multiplatform games.

As for JRPGS, isn't the 360 the (J)RPG console of this generation? It's bizarre, I know, but Microsoft seems to have been actively making sure that it's one of the console's strengths. Most of the interesting JRPG exclusives haven't been released yet, leaving the PS3 with Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3.

 

[SinisterDeath]

Anyways, Using the PS3s back catelogue of games, to add to the actual PS3's catelogue IS a valid tactic.
360, Launches with what, 20 games?
Ps3 Launches with 12 games + PS2 Library + PSX Library.
And even if the newer ps3's don't play PS2 games, they CAN and DO play Ps1 games. Hell, the PSN has PS1 Games on it for sale!

Well, in the case of MGS4, before it released (about a week before it was released)
I replayed MGS 1-3.

Many, many people do the same for 'established series' that span 'several' consoles.

Because when someone buys their PS3 they can't wait to get home and play FF1.

 

[Woe Is You]

I really wouldn't say Disgaea 3 and FF Versus XIII are "trying to mix things up". Disgaea 3 and Cross Edge are your average Nippon Ichi SRPGs with next to nothing new (we've seen those aplenty in the last generation), FF Versus XIII seems to be Kingdom Hearts with a different theme. Which leaves you with Valkyria Chronicles, which I admit sounds interesting. Hoping for a port.

And we've yet to see whether White Knight Chronicles lives up to its hype. It's Level 5, so anything can happen.