Punishing a Teenager

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Jark212

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Under_the_bridge said:
Jark212 said:
Send her to a boarding school in Utah, worked with my sister...
I second this notion, but just to be cruel send her to some really religious place. I'm takin' Real Jesus camp with all that entails, make sure that they got fence and dogs or whatever so she can't run away.

Keep her there for 3 years.
That would only turn her into religious zealot. Sure she would be tamed but she would also be a complete nut-job...
 

darkknight9

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As a former teenager a few years removed who got kicked out in his senior year of high school I've got to tell ya... Kick her out. I was a hot head and a slow learner but it was probably the only thing that helped me get turned around. It's a gamble on the parents part, since if she goes out and burns down a nursing home or something, the parents are held responsible until she's an adult.

But, if you're family isn't concerned with cost, contact your local police department/social services office and ask if there is a "detention hold" available in your area. That's a no questions asked, your parents decide that you are a threat to yourself or others call then to the cops who will haul ya away and take you to a local shelter (or work farm if there's one in your area) and there you will stay for X number of hours. (Mine was 72 and weekend hours didnt count. It sucked.)

It may end up not costing your family a thing, and it puts her in a situation where there is no concern over abuse because its all recorded, and the staff will act professionally right up to the point where the teen becomes threatening or starts swinging. *Swinging at the staff is not recommended. ;)
 

ProfessorLayton

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If she's old enough to drop out of high school, she's old enough to live on her own so you can kick her out and it won't be considered child abuse.
 

RamirezDoEverything

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take away everything but her matress, one outfit of clothes, and her food. By law, this is all that is needed to provide for a child, this will teach her, and the police can't do ****
 

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chaos order said:
NIHILHATE said:
Smoking Weed does NOT make someone a druggie. It's not a drug, it's a feckin' herb, it's no more of a drug than coffee. Just thought I'd clear that up.
lol really? apparently you dont know what weed can actually do to u. It can actually mess u up pretty bad. understandably not as bad as crack or heroine but non the less its pretty bad for you. coffee is good moderately, like one or two cups a day. weed releases a mild for of acid which after prolonged use can lead to brain damage.
I have been smoking weed for over a decade and I beg to differ.
 

TheLaofKazi

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SnootyEnglishman said:
How old is this girl? If she's older than 16 call the cops and have her taken to jail.
That's a great idea. Let's put her in a big cage filled with more criminals, that's the perfectly place for her to be.

But seriously, that's the last thing she needs.
 

TheLaofKazi

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Catchphrase said:
WestMountain said:
She needs better parents that can set restrictions and ground her etc
This.

The topic at hand is the result of bad parenting. People do not become "unruly" for no reason, it's either because of incredibly strict parents, in which case it is a form of the youth-rebellion... Or the result of immensely lax parenting, in which case the teenager does everything it can, because there is no consequence. Or, in a more "extreme" scenario, the result of abuse (not necessarily sexual) by the parents, in which case it is also a form of the youth-rebellion.

Either one is the result of bad parentage. Blaiming the child, even if it is a teenager, is completely wrong.

I recommand therapy for the above case, as I'd do for any such case.
This is good advice.
 

vampirekid.13

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electric_warrior said:
my sister's identical, always spitting at people, swearing (i mean proper swearing, ****, fuck etc. she's like the girl from the exorcist) and shouting. my mum keeps finding drugs and little bags of tablets in her room, and she's been arrested twice and detained overnight (she was involved in a drugs bust at a friends house). she stopped going to school completely and now is only doing 4 gcses.
Her tactic is to argue and argue and argue until my mum gives in, this can result in 4+ hours of screaming that has in the past gone on as late as 5am.
I hate her more than I have words for, seriously its gotten to the point where I actually cannot comprehend the idea of giving a shit about your siblings.

Whether your cousins quite as bad as my sister I don't know, but I always maintained that throwing her out would have been the best course of action. My mum refused, and now she has a violently abusive, drug taking failure on her hands. And she will always be on her hands.
Unconditional love my fucking ass, it's bullshit

What it is, is that my sister was always mediocre in school and everything else she did and I always got a grades and sports awards. my mum was the same so she always made excuses for her bad behaviour until it got completely out of hand. by that time she was 13 and she didn't take proper action until she was 15, by which time it was too late and social services refused to take her away or intervene in any meaningful way.

I don't blame my parents as such, I turned out pretty well if i don't say so myself, I just think my sister is bad. She was always bad, she used to pull my cats whiskers out when she 9 and always argued like she does, it's just that now she's drunk, foul mouthed, abusive, violent and has the stamina to keep going for what can feel like days as well as being a petulant brat.

But anyway, yeah, throw the ***** out.

thats what happens when u dont hit ur kids.


seriously.
 

vampirekid.13

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ultrachicken said:
vampirekid.13 said:
electric_warrior said:
thats what happens when u dont hit ur kids.


seriously.
Prove it.

my mom always administered spankings when well deserved.

i dont drink.

i dont do drugs.

i never acted out when i was little.

i never did anything w/o her approval.


its easy math me + action - parental approval = spanking.

me + action + parental approval = "okie honey go do that"


than again my mom was nice enough to let me do ANYTHING as long as i asked and told her im doing it.


like "hey mom, can i watch basic instinct (R rated movie w/ sex /nudity" her:"ur only 9....sure, go ahead"

or "hey mom, can i go drinking w/ my friends? (no drinking age in romania)" her : "sure, call me if ur too drunk" gotta love that at 12.


anyway, yea spankings = good.
 

Ragsnstitches

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Catchphrase said:
WestMountain said:
She needs better parents that can set restrictions and ground her etc
This.

The topic at hand is the result of bad parenting. People do not become "unruly" for no reason, it's either because of incredibly strict parents, in which case it is a form of the youth-rebellion... Or the result of immensely lax parenting, in which case the teenager does everything it can, because there is no consequence. Or, in a more "extreme" scenario, the result of abuse (not necessarily sexual) by the parents, in which case it is also a form of the youth-rebellion.

Either one is the result of bad parentage. Blaiming the child, even if it is a teenager, is completely wrong.

I recommand therapy for the above case, as I'd do for any such case.
The topic at hand doesn't have enough information to make such a statement. Children can become unruly for many more reasons then just bad parenting. Bad Influences come from all angles, it could be family or friend (it might not even be a parent, but a sibling or a aunt/uncle, or a cousin). A lot of people who were subjected to child abuse and never came to terms with it could just as likely become so unruly. There's also mental conditions. Here's a definition for sociopath:

"A Sociopath is person with a mental disease. They don't follow the rules or moral of a society. They have a complete disregard for the feelings and rights of others. They don't feel remorse or guilt of their actions. They tend to be disorganized in his or her demeanor,nervous and easily agitated. They tend to spontaneously act out without thinking about the consequences of their actions. They are dangeourus to others and themselves. They need a lot treatment."

I agree with your notion on treatment. A sociopath can be born that way, meaning little to no chance of a normal family being able to reign them in. Situations like this require treatment from an early age for the best results, but its hard to tell a angsty teen from a head case until its far too late and the damage is done. Even if you do become aware of such a state, try convincing an angsty teen to see a psychiatrist, they would rather lop an arm off (in the case of my sister... no she didn't mutilate herself but she would resist to the point of tearing the family apart)

Blaming the parents is just as ignorant as blaming the child, as it's never that simple. You can blame bad genes or poor environment (includes schools and other social avenues), but blaming the parent or the child is a cop out.

OT: My sister was pretty unruly for most of her teens (running away, sleeping around, drugs and drink, general disrespect for herself and her family, the whole 9 yards), she drove my mum to the point of mental breakdown, my dad just closed himself off or doted on me (I was old enough to realise this and wasn't very appreciative of it), much bitterness developed between my parents during this time.

My sister is now 23, has an interesting job, a respectable boyfriend and has 2 healthy pet dogs (shows responsibility at least). She only managed to come that far after she left home. During 2 failed years in college she finally found a decent side to herself and developed it. I'm happy to call her my sister now, while no more then 3 or 4 years ago I would have been ashamed to hear of her.

This is the most likely event that could happen with your cousin, but it could take a good few years for her to develop herself.

While I am promoting throwing her into the deep end, I don't promote disowning her, that's just giving up and is a sign of bad parenting. Kicking her out just means she needs to live for herself (what teens fight for but don't really know what it is until it hits them, hard). The family should still be there as support, but not to be too soft on her of course.
 

ethaninja

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SnootyEnglishman said:
How old is this girl? If she's older than 16 call the cops and have her taken to jail.
Yeah I would have to choose this piece of advice. That or rehab of some kind. No offence intended, but if she doesn't get her act straight, she's probably going to grow up as a prostitute.
 

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vampirekid.13 said:
ultrachicken said:
vampirekid.13 said:
electric_warrior said:
thats what happens when u dont hit ur kids.


seriously.
Prove it.

my mom always administered spankings when well deserved.

i dont drink.

i dont do drugs.

i never acted out when i was little.

i never did anything w/o her approval.


its easy math me + action - parental approval = spanking.

me + action + parental approval = "okie honey go do that"


than again my mom was nice enough to let me do ANYTHING as long as i asked and told her im doing it.


like "hey mom, can i watch basic instinct (R rated movie w/ sex /nudity" her:"ur only 9....sure, go ahead"

or "hey mom, can i go drinking w/ my friends? (no drinking age in romania)" her : "sure, call me if ur too drunk" gotta love that at 12.


anyway, yea spankings = good.
My parents have never administered a half-serious punishment to me.
I don't do drugs, I do well in school

You can't assume that your situation reflects the effects of spanking across the globe
there are billions of people on this planet, one case is not reflective of the whole.

cite a source and I'll believe you
 

Mr.SunShine

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All i have to say is

They'll only throw you in jail if you use a CLOSED FIST or a WEAPON of ANY KIND

Remember kids! Slaps sting more than punches!

Besides even if she's thrown out won't she just hike to her "friends" and stay there...? wouldn't that just throw the lesson RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW!?

Just my personal opinion but i'm also just a face in the crowd

if not a beatiful and expertly carved handsome face
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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PayJ567 said:
Kick her out of the house and let her live on her own. Let her see how hard it is maybe then she will appreciate what she gets.

I mean it worked on my brother.
I would have to agree, kick the ***** out! see how long she lasts before she comes crawling back saying sorry.
 

Cody211282

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I'm taking this kid wasn't spanked as a kid? Only thing I cant think of is some heavy intervention before she ends up royaly screwed.