Question of the Day, September 6, 2010
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Easily Baldur's Gate.
Unfortunately, I don't think Neverwinter Nights really had an influence. The strength of that game was the toolset that allowed people to create full single-player modules and multi-player persistent worlds. It was a success for NWN itself, but the idea didn't carry on in other games. Although the Dragon Age toolset technically allows you to create distinct modules, the vast majority of mods for it are more akin to Morrowind's and Oblivion's plugins: small enhancements to the existing game world, rather than new adventures altogether.
Unfortunately, I don't think Neverwinter Nights really had an influence. The strength of that game was the toolset that allowed people to create full single-player modules and multi-player persistent worlds. It was a success for NWN itself, but the idea didn't carry on in other games. Although the Dragon Age toolset technically allows you to create distinct modules, the vast majority of mods for it are more akin to Morrowind's and Oblivion's plugins: small enhancements to the existing game world, rather than new adventures altogether.
I think your titles are a little too new to be in the "influential" zone. I'd say that:
Baldur's Gate, and before that, Icewind Dale, influenced the top-down party style RPG. Hell, they defined the genre. NWN and it's ilk were some of the best games I can mention, but thy took their silhouette from the originals.
Morrowind made the free-roaming RPG, which then morphed into Oblivion, which in turn created Fallout 3.
And then of course there are the JRPGs. I've not played many, but every single one seems to be a Final Fantasy clone.
EDIT: But the "new" Bioware titles, Mass Effect and Dragon Age, they're pretty influential in their own right. I mean, they're almost identical in play style, but that's not a bad thing and I find them fantastic games.
Baldur's Gate, and before that, Icewind Dale, influenced the top-down party style RPG. Hell, they defined the genre. NWN and it's ilk were some of the best games I can mention, but thy took their silhouette from the originals.
Morrowind made the free-roaming RPG, which then morphed into Oblivion, which in turn created Fallout 3.
And then of course there are the JRPGs. I've not played many, but every single one seems to be a Final Fantasy clone.
EDIT: But the "new" Bioware titles, Mass Effect and Dragon Age, they're pretty influential in their own right. I mean, they're almost identical in play style, but that's not a bad thing and I find them fantastic games.
When you are talking about influence, it is almost always just a matter of how far back you go.
But I digress, if Deus Ex counts then that definately would be where my vote lies. To my knowledge, its the first game that really had an actions=consequences thing, which have been massive buzzwords in the past couple of years.
But I digress, if Deus Ex counts then that definately would be where my vote lies. To my knowledge, its the first game that really had an actions=consequences thing, which have been massive buzzwords in the past couple of years.
I voted for Final Fantasy obviously. It's the one that introduced the West to RPG's in general.
Also, why is Zelda on the list? That's not an RPG.
Also, why is Zelda on the list? That's not an RPG.
Um, i voted for FF but only because its the most important JRPG series, and there are a lot of JRPG's.
Personally I'd like to see some love for the hack and slash god that is Diablo (2nd one mainly)
Personally I'd like to see some love for the hack and slash god that is Diablo (2nd one mainly)
The question was "Which of these is more influential?" not "Which do you like the most?"dragonslayer32 said:
I hate Final Fantasy and everything related to it, but I can still recognize that it was one of the key turning points in RPGs.
Zelda. The original Zelda. It may not be an RPG, but it's influence on the genre is undeniable. It was the first free roaming game, one of the first to include a save function, and it was one of the first games to nail a truly adventurous feel.
D&D and Baldurs Gate are Obvious choices for this, but I'm also gonna throw in Call of Cthulu cause I love that game and it does things differently and really broke the standard combat based mold of RPGs.
Final Fantasy Mostly.
But then I also have to put out System Shock 2, since it kinda started the whole 'pick your own class' thing.
But then I also have to put out System Shock 2, since it kinda started the whole 'pick your own class' thing.
Baldur's Gate for pretty much defining the fantasy RPG genre. Games like Dragon Age simply could not have existed without them.
Deus Ex for defining the morality/philosophy driven nature of free choice in action RPGs. Games like Alpha Protocol and Splinter Cell could not have existed without them.
I do have to wonder why anyone would put Zelda and Dragon Age in this survey at all, and why put Oblivion in over Morrowind, or even Daggerfall.
Deus Ex for defining the morality/philosophy driven nature of free choice in action RPGs. Games like Alpha Protocol and Splinter Cell could not have existed without them.
I do have to wonder why anyone would put Zelda and Dragon Age in this survey at all, and why put Oblivion in over Morrowind, or even Daggerfall.