Quickscoping "Gimped" in Call of Duty: Black Ops.

[Korten12]

I dont see how people thought the QS was overpowered. A good quickscoper usually pull a 1.3 KD, but when he uses an assault rifle he usually gets a 4 KD. Whens the last time you saw a quickscoper get a 70+ game? Almost never!

What frustrates me the most is that quickscoping at least took a drop of skill, while using a assault rifle took none! Not to mention most quickscopers couldnt hit the broad side of a barn! It was an easy kill for rushers! Can someone at least tell me why they think QS is overpowered??

skill

From Destructoid: http://www.destructoid.com

Quickscoping is where a player uses Sleight of Hand in conjunction with the game's auto-aim in order to achieve a slightly less than earned amount of precision.

auto-aim

skill

auto-aim

I'll just leave this here.

everyone ignore the troll.

Just because it's minimalistic, doesn't make it trolling. An essay isn't required to raise a valid point.

While it may (its also aim-assit not auto-aim) but he probably had the intent of getting people into a flame war.

 

[Geekosaurus]

Also, 'gimped'? Is that some sort of uber-nerf?

 

[sooperman]

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Gonna have to agree wit raze on this one, Korten, though it would have been helpful to make just a bit more of a point.

Josh Ollin has something to say about quickscoping.The second half of the page is JD commenting on QS.

http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/10/25/cod-hqs-napalm-and-quickscoping-updates/

I have gotten my jollies quickscoping, but I'm not going to miss it. And besides, The Man himself thinks it's detrimental to the game.

 

[psivamp]

Yay! Less quick-scoping. No OMA, no witchblades.

 

[jpoon]

I may actually buy this game used after hearing this. I say fuck giving activision a cent but if they are going to actually fix the problems that made me absolutely hate MW2 then I might have a go at this game. I'll give my money to Gamestop instead of Activision, even though I'm not a fan of either, Gamestop's better than some asshole corporations that I have previously mentioned.

 

[omega 616]

Okay, I just watched a video about quick scoping. I still don't get how Sleight of Hand helps.

The pro version makes you aim down the sights quicker, which means the quickshotter can fire sooner meaning there is less chance of dying.

Imo the whole perk system needs another big overhaul.

It still should be in there, but a lot different. Perks like commando are OP, but can easily be tweaked not to be, whereas One Man Army just needs to be removed.

And for the love of god can they finally make steady aim worth a crap? It's survived through three games and it's been godawful in all of them.

To be honest if it was made so noob tubes didn't replenish if OMA was used it would be a great perk. It gives so much flexability, want to snipe? Switch class, see a guy running at you? Switch to an assault rifle and mow him down then return to sniping.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Now they just need to get rid of the 'witchknife' thing.

to reply to this, i;d like to see them do 1 of 2 things with that.

#1. make the knife take up your secondary weapon slot. this way you have to SWITCH to the knife first to make you kills. this will eliminate the so called "witch-blade" players, because they cant instantly use their knife.

#2. remove the knife completely. give the player a butt stroke, or pistol whip attack instead. dont make it an instant kill, instead, have it deal saaay, 25% damage, and stun the enemy a bit. tis more realistic that an instant "i slash you you die" meele.

and to all of you, before you ***** about it, they could fix it so a buttstroke in single player= an instant kill.

Actually, it would have been ok if the knife took body parts into effect. Like, say, only have it be an instant kill if it hits the head, neck and maybe backside. Anything else just does 50ish damage, 15ish for hardcore mode.

Because it's ridiculous how you can just stab someone in the legs and kill them instantly.

this.

if someone legitamately hits me on the head with the knife and i didn't pound 8 rounds into their chest beforehand, i will call the one hit kill fair play

but if they teleport lunge my calf muscle on my leg after swearing i killed them and killing me with one hit. fuck that. fuck you fuckers out there who pull that bullshit.

or have the knife as the secondary so they are required to pull it out first. that seems better than having it instantly at hand.

treyarch is making this game more and more unbearable to buy, even after all the crap that mw2 was.

i wish they could take the whole near aspect of quick scoping out, as its not a skill, its a technique that you practice that abuses the system of the sniper rifle, (don't tell me its all fucking skill, i know some of the most uncoordinated people on the planet who do it on NOT mw2, hell one guy i know has strabismus and a really really near blind one eye and can do it just as good as any one else, but when it comes to shooting anything else he can't hit the broad side of a barn)

 

[razelas]

I dont see how people thought the QS was overpowered. A good quickscoper usually pull a 1.3 KD, but when he uses an assault rifle he usually gets a 4 KD. Whens the last time you saw a quickscoper get a 70+ game? Almost never!

What frustrates me the most is that quickscoping at least took a drop of skill, while using a assault rifle took none! Not to mention most quickscopers couldnt hit the broad side of a barn! It was an easy kill for rushers! Can someone at least tell me why they think QS is overpowered??

skill

From Destructoid: http://www.destructoid.com

Quickscoping is where a player uses Sleight of Hand in conjunction with the game's auto-aim in order to achieve a slightly less than earned amount of precision.

auto-aim

skill

auto-aim

I'll just leave this here.

everyone ignore the troll.

Just because it's minimalistic, doesn't make it trolling. An essay isn't required to raise a valid point.

While it may (its also aim-assit not auto-aim) but he probably had the intent of getting people into a flame war.

And what exactly did I post could remotely be considered flame bait? Unless pointing out someone's ideas as fallacious is now considered flaming?

Also, auto aim and aim assist are synonymous terms. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-aim]

Some games, including GoldenEye 007, Combat Arms, Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II, Timesplitters, Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Call of Duty: World at War, Modern Warfare 2 and Team Fortress 2, Alien Swarm (some weapons), have "auto-aim" as an option in the game. This is not the same as an aimbot; it simply helps the user to aim when playing offline against computer opponents usually by slowing the movement of 'looking/aiming' while the crosshair is on or near a target. It is common for console FPS games to have this feature to compensate for the lack of precision in analog-stick control pads, compared to a PC mouse.

 

[etherlance]

Now lets turn our attention to the noobtubers!!

 

[Zenn3k]

Wow, I'm really looking forward to Black Ops now

 

[ApophisMP]

I am happy to see someone finally giving a tinkers damn the community, and taking steps to make a better game, im still gonna wait at least 2 months before i even consider renting or buy Black ops, just to see how this game can go into WTF-land, But at least i like what im hearing and seeing from there

 

[Treblaine]

From Destructoid: http://www.destructoid.com/quickscoping-gimped-in-call-of-duty-black-ops

Article Below------

If you were a fan of Modern Warfare 2's Sleight of Hand' Perk, then you might want to rethink your strategy. Treyarch has confirmed that "quickscoping" will have its nuts ripped out in Call of Duty: Black Ops, eliminating one of the game's less hacksome cheap tricks.

"Quickscoping is a cheap way to play," tweets Treyarch communiy bod Josh Olin. "We're specifically going to gimp Quickscoping, sorry. Play straight-up!"

Quickscoping is where a player uses Sleight of Hand in conjunction with the game's auto-aim in order to achieve a slightly less than earned amount of precision. It was the bane of many a CoD player's existence and its gimpage ought to make quite a few people happy.

It won't please the Quickscopers, of course, but screw those guys with a rusty spanner.

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Yay, one less cheap tactics! Me happy.

Though sad to see Sleight of Hand Gone (I believe its gone), it was good for reloading.

>gimp
>gimping
>gimpage even

Oh god, no please stop. The word both you and Josh Olin are looking for is "Nerfed"! A weapon of feature made less powerful or effective in a game is described as nerfes as in the sense of a Nerf Ball Gun.

This is a gimp:

And don't ask be for an example of the verb "to gimp".

BTW. I approve of nerfing quick-scoping, it is blatantly an exploit of the console aim assist though is distinct from merely not looking constantly though the sights.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Em quickscoping was in CoD way before the sleight of hand perk in CoD MW2. I don't think this "gimping" of it when it was already in the game will stop it.

 

[Reg5879]

It is fun watching all the wannabe Hutch's getting upset on the internet about it. Now all we need are the noob tubes taken out.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Have you heard HOW they're gimping it though?

Basically right now on consoles, your crosshairs slowly pull in as you pull up your scope, eventually reaching a point, before the scope is actually up, where they are just as accurate as the sniper scope. This, along with "sticky aim" (not aim assist, or auto aim) allows for quick, relatively accurate shots if you time it correctly and have good aim. It is in no way cheap, overpowered, broken, or anything of the sorts.

In Black Ops, when you pull up your scope, it is no longer where you were actually aiming. It pulls the scope up in a random-ish position on your screen. This not only breaks quick scoping, it breaks sniping PERIOD. Unless you're sitting in a corner staring down your sights (which means you're basically an idiot), then sniping is no longer possible.

I predict this will be patched to more closely resemble CoD4 sniping, which in my opinion was the best and most balanced.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

It is fun watching all the wannabe Hutch's getting upset on the internet about it. Now all we need are the noob tubes taken out.

They're upset because Treyarch is not only killing quick scoping, but sniping in general. Their "fix" makes sniping basically impossible unless you sit in a corner staring down your scope. That is not my idea of a good time.

This video explains it way better than I can: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJG0hrut7Bo&feature=sub

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Have you heard HOW they're gimping it though?

Basically right now on consoles, your crosshairs slowly pull in as you pull up your scope, eventually reaching a point, before the scope is actually up, where they are just as accurate as the sniper scope. This, along with "sticky aim" (not aim assist, or auto aim) allows for quick, relatively accurate shots if you time it correctly and have good aim. It is in no way cheap, overpowered, broken, or anything of the sorts.

In Black Ops, when you pull up your scope, it is no longer where you were actually aiming. It pulls the scope up in a random-ish position on your screen. This not only breaks quick scoping, it breaks sniping PERIOD. Unless you're sitting in a corner staring down your sights (which means you're basically an idiot), then sniping is no longer possible.

I predict this will be patched to more closely resemble CoD4 sniping, which in my opinion was the best and most balanced.

Yeah, I haven't played CoD since CoD4 but I checked out a video or 2 of this quickscoping, and I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like a quickscoper's aim is way off and they get a kill. It seems like your aim has to be on the person or really close (for the aim assist to kick in). An automatic gun still has the advantage in close combat without a doubt. I personally don't think aim assist or "sticky aim" (which is NOT auto aim) should be something that is in online FPS multiplayer anyways. I don't remember it being in CoD4, I don't remember the game moving my crosshairs. It just seems like that Treyarch guy is just a noob and he is getting mad at getting killed when he indeed has the advantage in close range against a sniper.

 

[Dectomax]

I can allready hear the pitiful screams of immature children crying because their beloved quick scoping doesn't work anymore. Hahahaaaa

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

I can allready hear the pitiful screams of immature children crying because their beloved quick scoping doesn't work anymore. Hahahaaaa

It seems like the people crying about quickscoping are the immature children as ARing or SMGing has the advantage over quickscoping. Just take out all aim assist online, which should not be online in the first place.