R.I.P. Flareon

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Onyx Oblivion

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Dear Game Freak,

Can you stop making Flareon suck? Can you at least give it Earthquake or Flare Blitz? Or some kinda decent physical attack moves? Flareon has a massive attack stat, and absolute nothing to do with it. Flareon is actually better off using a special attack based moveset, and that's a damn shame. Super Power ain't enough. No STAB. Stat drop after use, and poor type coverage.

All the other Eeveelutions are totally viable in one way or another.

Espeon is Psychic death. Umbreon can tank and stall. Vaporeon can tank, sweep, stall, heal, and do it all. Jolteon is fast as fuck, and an exceptional Baton Passer. Leafeon has a great attack and defense stats, and a varied movepool to go with it. Glaceon is a pretty damn good Ice type, with good special attack.

It's Generation 5.

You have actually had 6 chances to fix Flareon merely by adding a few moves...Gen 2. Gen 3. Fire Red/Leaf Green. Gen 4. Heart Gold/Soul Silver. And now...Gen 5. And you still make Flareon suck.

R.I.P. Flareon

And F.U. Game Freak.

Worst Wishes,
Onyx
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STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus, meaning that if a pokemon is the same type as the move it used, it does 1.5x damage. 1.25x for dual type pokemon.

For some discussion:
What's your favorite pokemon to use that actually sucks?
 

Defense

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I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.
 

zenoaugustus

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I agree, I love using the Eeveelutions, and it is a shame Flareon sucks.

I can't think of any pokemon that I use frequently that is no good. Hitmonchan (Hitmonlee is so much better, but I like having both) sucked until generation 4, so I'll go with that.
 

MisterShine

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Onyx Oblivion said:
What's your favorite pokemon to use that actually sucks?
Sneazel from Gold. I love that little bastard. Sure his magic attack is the weaksauce and most of the moves he DOES get are mostly magical, but I still love him and level him everytime anyway.

PS, a note about pokemon: I've been waiting 14 years for a 3d version of the gameboy series, why do you continue to deny me, Nintendo? I'd actually think about buying one of your systems if you did it.
 

Onyx Oblivion

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MisterShine said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
What's your favorite pokemon to use that actually sucks?
Sneazel from Gold. I love that little bastard. Sure his magic attack is the weaksauce and most of the moves he DOES get are mostly magical, but I still love him and level him everytime anyway.

PS, a note about pokemon: I've been waiting 14 years for a 3d version of the gameboy series, why do you continue to deny me, Nintendo? I'd actually think about buying one of your systems if you did it.
Good news for you, Sneazel fan.

It's evolution is high tier in online play. And it's freaking awesome on offense.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/weavile
 

ChromeAlchemist

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I thought this was going to be a thread about how Flareon was good and now he's crap...because he's always been crap. I'm glad you know this.

Thing is, because he sucks so bad, I'm not too bothered about him still sucking. I've always preferred the tank properties of Vaporeon, and the blistering speed of Jolteon. I just look at Flareon and think "meh, I've got Arcanine...".
 

Onyx Oblivion

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Who uses flareon anyway?

Stealth Rock...4x Weakness when it switches in. Say goodbye, Charizard.

He's the same Tier as Flareon...TRUTH.

Never Used. NU, for short.
 

PureChaos

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i was always a Jolteon person, mainly because i wanted to use Eevee for something but had fire and water already so electric was all that was left. aside from the low HP, Jolteon was great and i go with him every time
 

MisterShine

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Good news for you, Sneazel fan.

It's evolution is high tier in online play. And it's freaking awesome on offense.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/weavile
Sneazel is my Pikachu man, I can't just evolve him! It would reset our emotional bond.

Plus he looks stupid.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Who uses flareon anyway?



BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.
Hell no. Weakness to rock, water, ice AND thunder? The only reason I kept him is because he's cool as hell.

Arcanine:

Body Slam
Fire Blast
Reflect
Dig

I'll take him over ANY fire type.
 

Atmos Duality

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No kidding.
I thought the same thing of Ninetales wayyyyy back in the day; before moves were stat-centric (rather than elements being stat-centric).
 

Arnoxthe1

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Who uses flareon anyway?

Stealth Rock...4x Weakness when it switches in. Say goodbye, Charizard.

He's the same Tier as Flareon...TRUTH.

Never Used. NU, for short.
Eh, he still kicked ass in the cartoons. :p
 

Onyx Oblivion

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ChromeAlchemist said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Who uses flareon anyway?



BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.
Hell no. Weakness to rock, water, ice AND thunder? The only reason I kept him is because he's cool as hell.
And 4x Stealth Rock weakness, too! Fucking Stealth Rock actually matters online.