R/P is shut down?!

[Saelune]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

I will miss R&P though. The hoops certain posters jumped through to misrepresent other posters and pull them into tangent arguments was always a fun read. I think my last post was in the female draft one commenting about how within 4 pages of discussion the topic somehow had shifted to male circumcision. The other sections of this site have a bad habit of staying on topic.

 

[Saelune]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

That's always the disclaimer, aint it? 'no one SPECIFICALLY said' That is because they imply heavily, to get around acknowleding that they are white supremacists.


Letting white supremacists speak is giving them a platform. Letting them march through NYC is giving them a platform. Putting a White Supremacist in office is giving them, well, the government.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

That's always the disclaimer, aint it? 'no one SPECIFICALLY said' That is because they imply heavily, to get around acknowleding that they are white supremacists.


Letting white supremacists speak is giving them a platform. Letting them march through NYC is giving them a platform. Putting a White Supremacist in office is giving them, well, the government.

I wish I could live in your world. It seems so simple.

 

[Saelune]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

That's always the disclaimer, aint it? 'no one SPECIFICALLY said' That is because they imply heavily, to get around acknowleding that they are white supremacists.


Letting white supremacists speak is giving them a platform. Letting them march through NYC is giving them a platform. Putting a White Supremacist in office is giving them, well, the government.

I wish I could live in your world. It seems so simple.

You mean a world of caring about people besides myself? Not so simple.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

That's always the disclaimer, aint it? 'no one SPECIFICALLY said' That is because they imply heavily, to get around acknowleding that they are white supremacists.


Letting white supremacists speak is giving them a platform. Letting them march through NYC is giving them a platform. Putting a White Supremacist in office is giving them, well, the government.

I wish I could live in your world. It seems so simple.

You mean a world of caring about people besides myself? Not so simple.

I mean a world where the opposition and solutions to problems are so cut and dry.

 

[Saelune]

To be fair they also closed the thread about the Christchurch massacre with the statement being something like ?Not a topic we want discussed here?

I dunno, as someone who mostly lurked in R&P that thread made me sad, and was a good example of why I broadly agree with shutting down R&P despite being personally attached to it. I think we should be able to have political discussion without people trying to claim white supremacist murder is just some kind of edgy shitposting to own the libs.

This is not an excuse to restart the discussion by the way. If you still believe in that position, I don't actually want to talk about it.

As I said elsewhere, the 'toxicity' of politics come from the stupid notion that things like White Supremacy deserve a platform at all. They don't. White Supremacy is terrorism, and should be treated as such. No, it doesn't deserve to be protected, it doesn't deserve a place at the table of discussion, it deserves to be squashed, and no 'Who gets to decide?' is just a whistle blow in defense of White Supremacy.

I didn't see anyone arguing that. I saw people arguing that allowing white nationalists a platform was an unfortumate price to pay for free speech, but I never saw anyone specifically demanding that white supremacy be given a platform.

That's always the disclaimer, aint it? 'no one SPECIFICALLY said' That is because they imply heavily, to get around acknowleding that they are white supremacists.


Letting white supremacists speak is giving them a platform. Letting them march through NYC is giving them a platform. Putting a White Supremacist in office is giving them, well, the government.

I wish I could live in your world. It seems so simple.

You mean a world of caring about people besides myself? Not so simple.

I mean a world where the opposition and solutions to problems are so cut and dry.

A lot of problems are less complicated than they seem. It is usually the people causing the problems who make it seem more complex. It isn't Trump supporters making it harder to get rid of Trump. It is McConnel and Barr, who are both Trump supporters.

And it is White Supremacists like Yiannopolis, Spencer, Bannon, Fox News, etc who are muddling the problem of dealing with White Supremacists.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

A lot of problems are less complicated than they seem.

Well thank you for proving my point I guess. Remember when I said you're starting to sound like one of them?

 

[Lufia Erim]

The Off-Topic subforum is available for these sorts of discussions, but we greatly encourage you to adhere to our updated code of conduct [https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/703.1056838-ESCAPIST-MAGAZINE-FORUMS-CODE-OF-CONDUCT-Revised-27-March-2019].

If all the politic threads are coming here. What exactly is the point?

 

[Saelune]

A lot of problems are less complicated than they seem.

Well thank you for proving my point I guess. Remember when I said you're starting to sound like one of them?

Your 'point' was a gross over-generalization (and lets be honest, insult) of me.

There is a difference between bullying someone, and standing up to a bully.