Rape Bad, Murder Good?

[Darkin20]

With the current whiners in the US about those rape games out in Japan. It begs the question... I understand rape is bad but isn't murder worse? How many games have the user killing lots of human civilians and all it gets is a high age rating, but if a game actually has the user have sexual contact with the opposite sex (either willing or not) and everyone screams bloody murder. I am pretty sure that almost everyone over a certain age has actually had sex so how come everyone is freaking out when it is shown in a game at even the most basic level?

If games are supposed to be an escape, why can't people escape their sexual frustration but can escape their killing spree frustration?

 

[D_987]

Murder has become an accepted form of entertainment in music, films etc... - its part of our culture. Rape is looked down upon by society - as such it is deemed worse.

 

[1mpulse323]

cause we have a lot more issues with sex in media than violence.

 

[thiosk]

so, what youre saying is, that rape is a healthy release of sexual frustration?

I now believe that everyone is fucked up.

 

[Insanum]

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

EDIT: Due too people questioning what i mean:

Murder effects the victim, it takes away theyre life, however the after effects mainly effects the family, etc.

 

[Snowalker]

Murder has become an accepted form of entertainment in music, films etc... - its part of our culture. Rape is looked down upon by society - as such it is deemed worse.

/\ this.

I seem to usually share the same general opinion with this guy, though, I'm not sure why.

 

[kaziard]

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

 

[RRilef]

Because rape is more of an issue. I hate to say it, but it is so much easier to see the damage murder does than that of rape. It is easy to tell murder is bad, but for some sick people rape lies on the border and when you're drunk, you still know killing someone is bad, but rape may not seem like such a bad idea to you at the time. Also the fact that rape occurs more often in real life may have a factor.

 

[YuheJi]

I believe there was an article about this before. Murder can be justified while rape cannot. There is never an instance where rape is deemed good or necessary. Murder, on the other hand...

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Doesn't seem right does it? However, killing people can be justified in some circumstances, rape is only ever good for sadistic pleasure and emotional scarring.

EDIT: seems I've been ninja'd,

Though I don't see why sex or sexuality in general should be such taboo subjects. Why should we "protect the children" from something they'll probably do eventually. Especially since sex crimes and unwanted pregnancies are statistically more common in sexually repressed cultures.

 

[gentleben]

cause we have a lot more issues with sex in media than violence.

I've found that to be true, the level of censorship they have in American media over things that are perfectly fine in Britain and Australia is completely ridiculous.

Also I think it may have something to do with the accessibility of the different crimes. It could be argued that rape is in fact a more heinous crime than murder because (rather than being sexually motivated as many believe it to be) in most cases it is merely about the imposition of power over a weaker individual, and sexual gratification is an afterthought.

They're both punished with the same sentence here in Australia - life imprisonment.

 

[D_987]

I seem to usually share the same general opinion with this guy, though, I'm not sure why.

I would be rather worried if I were you...

 

[Major_Sam]

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

Yeah it is the after effects of rape that makes it worse. The psycholoical aspect of it.

 

[mike1921]

so, what youre saying is, that rape is a healthy release of sexual frustration?

I now believe that everyone is fucked up.

.......wtf? Where did that come from?

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

Yes, like when they're walking in a street in GTA4 or Saints Row2.

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

Really? It doesn't effect the victim? It ends their life! I'd rather be raped and continue living than not continue living.

I believe there was an article about this before. Murder can be justified while rape cannot. There is never an instance where rape is deemed good or necessary. Murder, on the other hand...

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

 

[Spartan Bannana]

Read Speak, you'll understand why Rape is generally worse than murder.

 

[azadiscool]

Well you know us Americans, we aren't happy unless we are blowing stuff up or shouting hypocritical accusations at Asians.

Anyways, unless you happened to have experienced both, how do you know that murder is worse? I direct you to the Yahtzee quote below, because god knows this site needs more of them.

"When you think about it, when you overlook the ingrained taboos of society and think for your own fucking self for once, it doesn't make much sense that murder is illegal when we still have no idea what death IS, exactly. For all we know the human body is merely a stopping-off point where we learn wisdom and patience in preparation for the next, ultimate state of existence, beings of pure light, at one with the universe and with minds encompassing a thousand galaxies. And for all we know, you only get to do all this if you die before you turn 40. In that case, being murdered could be the greatest thing anyone ever does for you."

WHAT NOW BITCHES?

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

 

[Lord_Panzer]

I've never really understood how one damaged life is worse than an ended one. I mean, I can see how, emotionally, it makes sense (some people 'deserve' to be mowed down, whereas not many people really and truly wish sexual molestation on someone) but purely from a logical standpoint: in one case, life will go on, in the other, it won't. The last one seems worse, and yet, it apparently isn't.

 

[Insanum]

so, what youre saying is, that rape is a healthy release of sexual frustration?

I now believe that everyone is fucked up.

.......wtf? Where did that come from?

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

Yes, like when they're walking in a street in GTA4 or Saints Row2.

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

Really? It doesn't effect the victim? It ends their life! I'd rather be raped and continue living than not continue living.

I believe there was an article about this before. Murder can be justified while rape cannot. There is never an instance where rape is deemed good or necessary. Murder, on the other hand...

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

If your dead then what happens afterwards doesnt tend too bother you. Most of the trama from rape happens after the initial act. was what i meant.

 

[Ultrajoe]

Because simulated murder is an extension of the natural and healthy phenomenon; competition. It's unfortunately human.

Rape is an extension of neither lust, love or sexual frustration, it's an expression of one-sided power. It's inherently inhuman.

As such, Rape is worse.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I've never really understood how one damaged life is worse than an ended one. I mean, I can see how, emotionally, it makes sense (some people 'deserve' to be mowed down, whereas not many people really and truly wish sexual molestation on someone) but purely from a logical standpoint: in one case, life will go on, in the other, it won't. The last one seems worse, and yet, it apparently isn't.

I agree

In my opinion, any life is better than no life. At least a rape victim has the potential to function normally after the rape. The victim of murder......not so much.