Rape Bad, Murder Good?

[kaziard]

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

Yes, like when they're walking in a street in GTA4 or Saints Row2

for munies! plus when killing random npc's in GTA they are usually faceless and, basically, not like real people. Rape on the other hand would require a more realistic image of a person, meh or maybe im just rambling.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Murder is bad. Killing, which has been used in the majority of video games in one way or another, can potentially be justified. And sometimes, even murder can be a justified killing.

Rape absolutely, positively can never be justified.

EDIT: Ah, it's been said. But my point still stands.

 

[mike1921]

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

Ofcourse not. No , it wasn't nitpicky, this person said murder in games is ok because it can be justified but rape isn't because it can't. But murder in games often isn't justified, and it's pretty ridiculous to say something is fine because if it was much MUCH much different it would be.

so, what youre saying is, that rape is a healthy release of sexual frustration?

I now believe that everyone is fucked up.

.......wtf? Where did that come from?

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

Yes, like when they're walking in a street in GTA4 or Saints Row2.

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

Really? It doesn't effect the victim? It ends their life! I'd rather be raped and continue living than not continue living.

I believe there was an article about this before. Murder can be justified while rape cannot. There is never an instance where rape is deemed good or necessary. Murder, on the other hand...

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

If your dead then what happens afterwards doesnt tend too bother you. Most of the trama from rape happens after the initial act. was what i meant.

Yes, because you have no brain and nothing is happening anymore to entertain me, which may be my personal definition of hell.

because in some cases murder can be just is the best explanation i assume.

Yes, like when they're walking in a street in GTA4 or Saints Row2

for munies! plus when killing random npc's in GTA they are usually faceless and, basically, not like real people. Rape on the other hand would require a more realistic image of a person, meh or maybe im just rambling.

Meh, doesn't make much of a difference to me, maybe if they developed this person a lot I'd see your point.

 

[mike1921]

Murder has become an accepted form of entertainment in music, films etc... - its part of our culture. Rape is looked down upon by society - as such it is deemed worse.

Because its all okay when you rip off a persons head, but god forbid you decide to have surprise sex with someone [if you yell out surprise right before, they cant be mad, its like a law or something].

Spoiler

*clicks report button*

 

[Pimppeter2]

Because simulated murder is an extension of the natural and healthy phenomenon; competition. It's unfortunately human.

Rape is an extension of neither lust, love or sexual frustration, it's an expression of one-sided power. It's inherently inhuman.

As such, Rape is worse.

Truth^

 

[Ultrajoe]

At least a rape victim has the potential to function normally after the rape. The victim of murder......not so much.

'Function normally' and 'Recover' are two different terms.

 

[azadiscool]

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

Ofcourse not. No , it wasn't nitpicky, this person said murder in games is ok because it can be justified but rape isn't because it can't. But murder in games often isn't justified, and it's pretty ridiculous to say something is fine because if it was much MUCH much different it would be.

Sorry, I thought you meant that extends into real life. But I see what you mean now, murder used to be what drove the story forward, now in some cases murder can be the whole fucking game. Now I see why my parents complain that violence is become accepted (although accepted isn't the word I'd use) in todays culture. Now I'm scared to think that maybe in the future, we will treat rape the way we treat murder now in video games.

It all makes sense! The Japanese have always been ahead of us technology-wise, so maybe they are also ahead in their mainstream game elements or something, and having games based on rape is just around the bend for us!

Oh shit, I need an aspirin.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Rape is nonconsentual, damaging (both mentally and physically), and it's not about pleasure. It's about control.

That said, I don't believe it's bad to portray it in book, movies, or "even" video games. It has its place in narrative. Should Stanley Kubrick have edited out the rape scene from A Clockwork Orange? The logic that it shouldn't exist in video games has to extend to film, plays, comics, books. Besides, legislation can't distinguish between "legitimate" expression and "smut."

Here's a post by Neil Gaiman (author of Sandman, Coraline) that I think you'll be interested in.
http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html

Yeah, I use the same links a lot - but that's only because I respond to the same questions.

 

[murphy7801]

rape good murder good pillaging good- Viking life
on serious note Americas ideas to sex in games is nuts how many people have sex in there life well most of us how many of us murder about 1% at most excluding certain areas. It is very weird situation I'm not saying I approve of rape games just alot games are murder simulations to say that rape simulations are wrong is very hypocritical.
But hay I'm European and we all bunch filthy liberal decadent sinners.

 

[Internet Kraken]

At least a rape victim has the potential to function normally after the rape. The victim of murder......not so much.

'Function normally' and 'Recover' are two different terms.

Yes, but again, any life is better than no life. They can still accomplish something productive for society. A dead person can't contribute anything towards society, aside from studying corpses.

 

[mike1921]

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

Ofcourse not. No , it wasn't nitpicky, this person said murder in games is ok because it can be justified but rape isn't because it can't. But murder in games often isn't justified, and it's pretty ridiculous to say something is fine because if it was much MUCH much different it would be.

Sorry, I thought you meant that extends into real life. But I see what you mean now, murder used to be what drove the story forward, now in some cases murder can be the whole fucking game. Now I see why my parents complain that violence is become accepted (although accepted isn't the word I'd use) in todays culture. Now I'm scared to think that maybe in the future, we will treat rape the way we treat murder now in video games.

It all makes sense! The Japanese have always been ahead of us technology-wise, so maybe they are also ahead in their mainstream game elements or something, and having games based on rape is just around the bend for us!

Oh shit, I need an aspirin.

Violence is only being accepted in fiction. I see very few people who wouldn't care if a murder happens IRL. Also, thinking we'll see rape in real life the way we see murder in videogames is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[The_Echo]

Rape can lead to murder in some cases, so it could be perceived as worse than just murder.

 

[Lord_Panzer]

At least a rape victim has the potential to function normally after the rape. The victim of murder......not so much.

'Function normally' and 'Recover' are two different terms.

Yes, but again, any life is better than no life. They can still accomplish something productive for society. A dead person can't contribute anything towards society, aside from studying corpses.

Or compost.

 

[azadiscool]

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

Ofcourse not. No , it wasn't nitpicky, this person said murder in games is ok because it can be justified but rape isn't because it can't. But murder in games often isn't justified, and it's pretty ridiculous to say something is fine because if it was much MUCH much different it would be.

Sorry, I thought you meant that extends into real life. But I see what you mean now, murder used to be what drove the story forward, now in some cases murder can be the whole fucking game. Now I see why my parents complain that violence is become accepted (although accepted isn't the word I'd use) in todays culture. Now I'm scared to think that maybe in the future, we will treat rape the way we treat murder now in video games.

It all makes sense! The Japanese have always been ahead of us technology-wise, so maybe they are also ahead in their mainstream game elements or something, and having games based on rape is just around the bend for us!

Oh shit, I need an aspirin.

Violence is only being accepted in fiction. I see very few people who wouldn't care if a murder happens IRL. Also, thinking we'll see rape in real life the way we see murder in videogames is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm sure that is what people thought when it came to murder three decades ago when the first video games were coming out. You never know...

 

[Internet Kraken]

At least a rape victim has the potential to function normally after the rape. The victim of murder......not so much.

'Function normally' and 'Recover' are two different terms.

Yes, but again, any life is better than no life. They can still accomplish something productive for society. A dead person can't contribute anything towards society, aside from studying corpses.

Or compost.

Ah yes how could I forget. All those bacteria need food to.

 

[mike1921]

There are plenty of games with murder that isn't justified in the slightest.

Does that mean those situations do not exist? Your entire comment was just you nitpicking at perfectly acceptable opinions. Should laughing be illegal because there are plenty of scenarios where it is inappropriate, such as during a funeral?

Ofcourse not. No , it wasn't nitpicky, this person said murder in games is ok because it can be justified but rape isn't because it can't. But murder in games often isn't justified, and it's pretty ridiculous to say something is fine because if it was much MUCH much different it would be.

Sorry, I thought you meant that extends into real life. But I see what you mean now, murder used to be what drove the story forward, now in some cases murder can be the whole fucking game. Now I see why my parents complain that violence is become accepted (although accepted isn't the word I'd use) in todays culture. Now I'm scared to think that maybe in the future, we will treat rape the way we treat murder now in video games.

It all makes sense! The Japanese have always been ahead of us technology-wise, so maybe they are also ahead in their mainstream game elements or something, and having games based on rape is just around the bend for us!

Oh shit, I need an aspirin.

Violence is only being accepted in fiction. I see very few people who wouldn't care if a murder happens IRL. Also, thinking we'll see rape in real life the way we see murder in videogames is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm sure that is what people thought when it came to murder three decades ago when the first video games were coming out. You never know...

So, nothing has changed since 3 decades of games. What makes you think they'll change in another 3.

 

[Gerazzi]

so, what youre saying is, that rape is a healthy release of sexual frustration?

I now believe that everyone is fucked up.

I'm with ya.
as in: what I was going to say.

 

[magnuslion]

Well:

Rape usually tortures someone mentally afterwards, Not too mention the possibility of pregnancy, etc.

Murder tends too affect other people, not really the victim.

I can understand your point, Unfortunately sex has always been a more taboo subject than murder.

so ending thier exsistence doesnt effect them? sweet.