Well seriously just think about it like this imagine playing halo and instead of killing you would be raping each other.....that would be messed up.
Rape Bad, Murder Good?
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Murder is not good, But to be honest I would rather be murdered than raped. Also Rape and murderer tend to go hand in hand. Neither are "good" obviously but a game that is specifically about raping a girl is disgusting in my opinion. Also I haven't seen a game where you murder / torture someone with no real motive, especially in such a graphic nature. If i did I would probably find it just as disgusting.
You've never seen a game like this? Just to give you a idea of a game like this think of Manhunt seriously that's all you do murder with no motive.....or at least not a very good one.VitalSigns said:
I hated Manhunt but at very least there was a story where you were fighting for your life and had no choice but do go through with those actions. Helping a persons morality in such a situation I guess. J-Rape Games are just "theres the girl, now rape her".Freakout456 said:
Hmmmm...never thought of it that way. You earn a cigar. *Hands UltraJoe a Cuban and a lighter*Ultrajoe said:
The "headshot" example is stupid, A quick painless death vs a long drawn out torture where your most likely get murdered at the end anyways.
I love rape in games, movies, etc. On that note, watch irreversible to see a young nippletastic Monica Belluci (The French guy's hot chick with the rack from the 2 bad Matrix movies) in what is perhaps the most graphic/effective rape in film history. Rape is what we call "the easy road" in story telling, but it is none the less effective for getting the ball moving. When a character rapes another character, we immediately have a good innocent victim, a baby eating monster, and a jumping point for any number of plots. We can have a revenge story, a tale of coaping with adversity, or in the case of boudice ripper, we can have a misleading concept that all women want to be ravaged against their wills (rape = love?). Honestly, taking rape out of media is about as dumb and misguided as taking swearing out of media, or killing, or drug use. It's like this misguided effort to tax to hell cigarettes, alcohol, and illegalize pot. You've gone that far with a great deal of hypocrisy, so how long till all sugar gets banned? We already got trans fat out of the way. When will it become illegal to sell children under 18 a can of Pepsi or a bowl of Fruit Loops? I'm extremely anti-censorship, and the Japanese made a stupid call folding to the worthless feminist movements of the west (who even westerners ignore and don't take seriously).
Real rape on the other hand, is bad, but honestly, who wouldn't prefer to be a victim of rape, rather than a victim of murder? No matter how bad life gets, if you're alive, you can still salvage and pick up the pieces and make the best of what's out there and in your reach. Try doing that when you're dead.
Real rape on the other hand, is bad, but honestly, who wouldn't prefer to be a victim of rape, rather than a victim of murder? No matter how bad life gets, if you're alive, you can still salvage and pick up the pieces and make the best of what's out there and in your reach. Try doing that when you're dead.
I did not say such things were exclusive to rape, only that rape exclusively offered such things.Xyphon said:
Yeah i can agree with that, I can't believe the SHOCKING Mass Effect sex scene. Laughable that people got angry at that.Dooly95 said:
Video games and movies should be held to the same standards, and criteria in each should be considered the same.
I think you'd see a similar outrage if someone were to make a game where you play a serial killer, or a customer in Hostel, where the same attention to detail was paid to the killing as is paid to the rape in stuff like Rapelay.
Videogame murder tends to be just half a step up from cartoon violence. Wile E. Coyote falling off the cliff, with blood rather than dust puffing out around him.
Plus (and call it desensitization if you must) violence, even murder, can be funny. See Dellamorte Dellamore, Tropic Thunder, Student Bodies, etc. There is no way to make rape funny.
Videogame murder tends to be just half a step up from cartoon violence. Wile E. Coyote falling off the cliff, with blood rather than dust puffing out around him.
Plus (and call it desensitization if you must) violence, even murder, can be funny. See Dellamorte Dellamore, Tropic Thunder, Student Bodies, etc. There is no way to make rape funny.
-rape is fantasy
-going on a city wide killing spree is fantasy
-both are normal fantasies that can be dangerous if expressed in reality
The difference: Western society finds violence more acceptable in entertainment than sex. It's why a kid leafing through a playboy is seen as horrible while beating hookers to get thier money back in a game is A-OK
Proof: Hostel is fine whie 3d rape is shocking (and IMO Hostel is much more disturbing than some anime rape game)
Also, people who support GTA type games as freedom of expression yet complain about another type of game and want to ban it are hypocrits that want to rationalize how their form of fictionalized entertainment is better than someone else's because they like it.
-going on a city wide killing spree is fantasy
-both are normal fantasies that can be dangerous if expressed in reality
The difference: Western society finds violence more acceptable in entertainment than sex. It's why a kid leafing through a playboy is seen as horrible while beating hookers to get thier money back in a game is A-OK
Proof: Hostel is fine whie 3d rape is shocking (and IMO Hostel is much more disturbing than some anime rape game)
Also, people who support GTA type games as freedom of expression yet complain about another type of game and want to ban it are hypocrits that want to rationalize how their form of fictionalized entertainment is better than someone else's because they like it.