RE 2 Remake's success makes me hope for more games set in Raccoon City.

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The logical thing is make an RE 3 Nemesis Remake. If you think Tyrant T-103 (Mr. X) is scary and a meme oh I can't wait to see the modern internet's take on Nemesis.

Or heck Capcom can go this far and remake Resident Evil Outbreak as an Online Co-Op game. Pretty much a more survival horror oriented and slower paced Left 4 Dead. That game has cool locations such as a Burning Hotel Building filled with Lickers, Subway tunnels infested with Giant Fleas that roll like balls, and the masterpiece, the Raccoon City Zoo with a giant Zombie Elephant:

 
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Outbreak is something I really want to see in the RE engine. Even before 3.

There's so much more capabilities now that would make it even better than before. Case in Point, Asymmetrical Multiplayer. Running around Raccoon City in groups of 4-6, dealing with Zombies and Lickers could suck.

But then imagine that two other players could be say... Crimson Heads that pop up from time to time. And when you get to certain sections of the game, they become Specially Cultivated BOWs that Umbrella drops from a Helicopter. Still killable, but of course they would take much more ammo.

That would be the only multiplayer game that would take up my whole life.
 

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I'd ditch the multiplayer component and make it an open-world setting where you pick from a selection of five or so characters and have to escape Raccoon City. Each one starting at a different place, maybe even meeting up with the other characters, some of whom might be more helpful than others. Make it a big map with lots of twists and turns, where the objective isn't to explore but to escape as quick as you can, collecting and avoiding whatever possible. They could even add a ticking clock where you need to escape within a certain number of (in-game) days till the city gets nuked.

I don't think I've ever seen an open-world game where the key was to get out of it, so that could be something interesting.
 

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Outbreak is something I really want to see in the RE engine. Even before 3.
This was also my first thought. Outbreak was pretty cool in that it was classic puzzle and survive Resident Evil but meant to be multiplayer. I did not play online in the PS2 era but from murmuring around the internet people seemed to like Outbreak online even if it was limited by the era it released in. I still had a good time solo when I picked it up in a bundle with 4 and Code Veronica.

I also feel that coop multiplayer that is pve is lacking in variety, or is single screen. Especially story driven coop.
 

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I'd want a remake of Code Veronica.

Resident Evil 3 was already a good game, but from what I hear Code Veronica was not (I never played it), so by that token I'd rather they give that the RE2 remake treatment because I'd rather they take a mediocre game and make it great instead of taking a good game and making it better.
 

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Best thing they could do is remake RE3. It always felt like the 3rd disc of RE2 to me and it takes place almost entirely in Raccoon City. Even moreso than RE2 which has a relative few outdoor areas. I really loved how compact RE2 Remake was. Really missed games like this. It doesn't waste your time like open world games do but also isn't as heavily scripted as the few leftover SP games are. Raccoon City is so memorable b/c it's small and detailed. Make it bigger and it loses all of it's charm and it becomes just another barely interactive setpiece. A good mix of indoor and outdoor areas with many different buildings you can enter is what makes these games so memorable.
 

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I'd want a remake of Code Veronica.

Resident Evil 3 was already a good game, but from what I hear Code Veronica was not (I never played it), so by that token I'd rather they give that the RE2 remake treatment because I'd rather they take a mediocre game and make it great instead of taking a good game and making it better.
I've played pretty much every Resident Evil that comes to mind other than Gaiden, and I think Code Veronica is among the best of the "classic" Resident Evil games. It's main downside is that it has the most obnoxiously bad character in the series (Steve Burnside), but other than that I don't really have any problems with it. I've never heard anyone claim it was a poor entry; that's news to me.

I would love for them to make a modern Outbreak game, but it would be pretty ambitious to do so. If done right though, it'd be one hell of a game. Realistically, I think if anything we'll see a remake of 3. Which makes me wonder how they'd handle Nemesis. I feel like how he's implemented is what would make or break that remake.
 

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I think there are already some rumours RE3 is in the works and have been since before they released re2 remake. They can use some of the police station assets anyway so I suppose it's pretty logical: https://www.videogamer.com/news/rumour-resident-evil-3-remake-already-in-the-works - pretty confident they'll remake that one since I think I heard somewhere that Capcam said remakes are part of their strategy going forward (not just for RE).

However, I'm not convinced there will be an Outbreak remake. While there is an audience for it and it does have a fan base, it wasn't quite popular enough to warrant a remake and it's classed as a spin-off. Best you can hope for after re3 is a Code Veronica remake, but since that's already available as a ps2 classic for modern consoles, I wouldn't hold my breath for that one either. There's really no need to remake any after that yet in my opinion.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
The logical thing is make an RE 3 Nemesis Remake.
Probably.

Or heck Capcom can go this far and remake Resident Evil Outbreak as an Online Co-Op game.
I don't think Outbreak needs to be remade per se, but I'd love a separate title in the vein of Outbreak.

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I'd want a remake of Code Veronica.

Resident Evil 3 was already a good game, but from what I hear Code Veronica was not (I never played it), so by that token I'd rather they give that the RE2 remake treatment because I'd rather they take a mediocre game and make it great instead of taking a good game and making it better.
Code: Veronica is...okay. It's the end of the old era, and it's telling in that the formula really feels stale at that point.

That said, I'm in no hurry for a remake of C: V. Graphically, it's held up pretty good. Gameplay wise...well, I guess you could make it better, but I'd rather that effort be spent on a new title. I'm more open to a RE3 remake because a) it was already pretty solid, b) it could improve the graphics, c) it would cap out the original trilogy as far as remakes go.

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I've played pretty much every Resident Evil that comes to mind other than Gaiden,
As someone who's played Gaiden, trust me, you dodged a bullet.
 

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Hawki said:
Code: Veronica is...okay. It's the end of the old era, and it's telling in that the formula really feels stale at that point.

That said, I'm in no hurry for a remake of C: V. Graphically, it's held up pretty good. Gameplay wise...well, I guess you could make it better, but I'd rather that effort be spent on a new title. I'm more open to a RE3 remake because a) it was already pretty solid, b) it could improve the graphics, c) it would cap out the original trilogy as far as remakes go.
Harsh on CV. It's a great game, and it came out before RE1 Remake and Zero so it wasn't the end of the formula by that point. It was actually going to be RE3 and the actual RE3 was going to be a side story to RE2. Only reason it wasn't was because of some console exclusivity disagreements.

I absolutely love RE3 but it is quite short compared to 2 or Code Veronica.
 

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You know, a new Resident Evil taking place to a nuked Raccoon City sound interesting in my creative head.
We need now the reason why the new heroes need to be here.
 

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dscross said:
Harsh on CV. It's a great game, and it came out before RE1 Remake and Zero so it wasn't the end of the formula by that point.
Even if I agreed that CV was "great," (I'd say it's good, just not great) it's still a bit of a bookend. Remake is just that - a remake. It's not bringing that much new. And Zero tried to bring something new with ideas of two characters but no item boxes, but it ended up being an exercise in frustration. It's telling that chronologically speaking, no Resi game has ever really gone back to the whole fixed camera angle thing since CV/Zero (unless you include Outbreak).

I absolutely love RE3 but it is quite short compared to 2 or Code Veronica.
Short and sweet is better than long and sour.

3's shorter than CV, sure, but CV really dragged on for me. Rockfort and the Antarctic just aren't as interesting environments as prior ones. It even lifts the mansion from RE1 in the end for...reasons (or nostalgia, whatever).
 

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Hawki said:
dscross said:
Harsh on CV. It's a great game, and it came out before RE1 Remake and Zero so it wasn't the end of the formula by that point.
Even if I agreed that CV was "great," (I'd say it's good, just not great) it's still a bit of a bookend. Remake is just that - a remake. It's not bringing that much new. And Zero tried to bring something new with ideas of two characters but no item boxes, but it ended up being an exercise in frustration. It's telling that chronologically speaking, no Resi game has ever really gone back to the whole fixed camera angle thing since CV/Zero (unless you include Outbreak).
I still think it's a matter of opinion. Other game series have stuck to the same formula for decades and no-one called them old and tired.

More importantly, RE3 and CV were developed at exactly the same time and were only released 5 or 6 months apart so if you love RE3, there's absolutely no reason you can't think the same about CV. Just because you don't like as much doesn't necessarily mean it's not as good as RE3. I like them equally.

It's more because it was released on the Dreamcast that it got didn't get as much praise as RE3, in my opinion. It didn't get the same exposure at the time so a lot of people don't have the same nostalgia for it.

With all this said, I am not attached to the old style RE games now. I really love RE7 and RE2 Remake.
 

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dscross said:
I still think it's a matter of opinion.
Um, yes? That's kind of a given. Of course it's just my opinion.

Other game series have stuck to the same formula for decades and no-one called them old and tired.
-Assassin's Creed

-Call of Duty

-Pokemon

-StarCraft

Off the top of my head, all of these series have been accused of sticking to formula too much. That some series escape such accusations doesn't invalidate those who have been accused. And in the space of C: V to Zero, I remember a complaint forming that the RE series was starting to feel rote.

More importantly, RE3 and CV were developed at exactly the same time and were only released a year apart so if you love RE3, there's absolutely no reason you can't think the same about CV.
There's no reason I "can't" think the same. I can think of just about anything. I can certainly "think" that C: V is as good as RE3, I just don't agree.

Just because you don't like as much doesn't necessarily mean it's not good as RE3.
Which is just down to opinion. It's my opinion that RE3 is better than C: V. Doesn't change that it's just opinion.

It's more because it was released on the Dreamcast that it got didn't get as much praise as RE3, in my opinion. It didn't get the same exposure at the time so a lot of people don't have the same nostalgia for it.
It later got released on the PS2 as well, which got the definitive edition in Code: Veronica X. The PS2 is one of the bestselling consoles of all time, and of course, a sequel to the PS1.

C: V got plenty of exposure.

Also, I'm not sure if RE3 got more praise than C: V. I think now, most people seem to hold RE3 in higher regard than C: V, but at the time, most people were pretty hyped. Off the top of my head, I'm reminded of Majora's Mask, only in reverse, where it took awhile for it to become a favourite in the Legend of Zelda series. In contrast, I've generally found that C: V seems to have fallen out of favour over time. Difference being that I never personally held it that high to begin worth. Enjoyable overall, sure, but with RE2/3 preceeding it, and Remake coming after it...yeah.
 

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Also, I'm not sure if RE3 got more praise than C: V. I think now, most people seem to hold RE3 in higher regard than C: V, but at the time, most people were pretty hyped. Off the top of my head, I'm reminded of Majora's Mask, only in reverse, where it took awhile for it to become a favourite in the Legend of Zelda series. In contrast, I've generally found that C: V seems to have fallen out of favour over time. Difference being that I never personally held it that high to begin worth. Enjoyable overall, sure, but with RE2/3 preceeding it, and Remake coming after it...yeah.
I bought a Dreamcast back in the day solely for this game(and a Gamecube the day RE Remake came out :p) and I can confess it definitely was a big thing. What generated hype for me was the character models looking way better, more impressive 3D effects, a new and exotic location, the gameplay trailers with Alfred Ashford and new technologies being used like the semi 3D environments. At the time it felt like a proper 'next-gen' Resident Evil game contrary to now when people seem to mostly argue if this was the 'proper' RE3 or not.

Hindsight changes everything ofcourse and the technical leap the game made from it's PS1 roots now don't look impressive anymore, so appreciation of that element is lost. I personally still like the game but compared nowadays directly to RE3 I find the latter more enjoyable. It's definitely a product of it's time but somehow still holds up better than CV which seems stuck in that weird mid-point between pre-rendered and full 3D. But like I said, at the time it was definitely a cool effect it just hasn't really hold up that well. The design of the game also isn't as tight as it's PS1 predecessors.
 

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You know, a new Resident Evil taking place to a nuked Raccoon City sound interesting in my creative head.
We need now the reason why the new heroes need to be here.
Problem though. Raccoon City was literally flattened and cratered by the Nuke. There is nothing there but a bowl of ash.

 

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Nothing against the Outbreak games, but we know remake of them is most likely not going to happen. RE3 has already been confirmed for development. As for Code Veronica, it's not the worst RE, but I don't like it because there a lot of design issues, and the game drags on longer than RE0, if we're talking pre-RE4. I really don't need a remake of CV. 3 has aged better gameplay wise compared Code Veronica. At the end of the day, CV is just another RE game only without the pre-rendered backgrounds.
 

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Hawki said:
Also, I'm not sure if RE3 got more praise than C: V. I think now, most people seem to hold RE3 in higher regard than C: V, but at the time, most people were pretty hyped. Off the top of my head, I'm reminded of Majora's Mask, only in reverse, where it took awhile for it to become a favourite in the Legend of Zelda series. In contrast, I've generally found that C: V seems to have fallen out of favour over time. Difference being that I never personally held it that high to begin worth. Enjoyable overall, sure, but with RE2/3 preceeding it, and Remake coming after it...yeah.
I bought a Dreamcast back in the day solely for this game(and a Gamecube the day RE Remake came out :p) and I can confess it definitely was a big thing. What generated hype for me was the character models looking way better, more impressive 3D effects, a new and exotic location, the gameplay trailers with Alfred Ashford and new technologies being used like the semi 3D environments. At the time it felt like a proper 'next-gen' Resident Evil game contrary to now when people seem to mostly argue if this was the 'proper' RE3 or not.

Hindsight changes everything ofcourse and the technical leap the game made from it's PS1 roots now don't look impressive anymore, so appreciation of that element is lost. I personally still like the game but compared nowadays directly to RE3 I find the latter more enjoyable. It's definitely a product of it's time but somehow still holds up better than CV which seems stuck in that weird mid-point between pre-rendered and full 3D. But like I said, at the time it was definitely a cool effect it just hasn't really hold up that well. The design of the game also isn't as tight as it's PS1 predecessors.
Do you think a lot fewer people worldwide would have had a Dreamcast than a PS1 at the time though? Surely that would have an impact on how many people played CV compared to RE3.
 

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Hawki said:
CoCage said:
RE3 has already been confirmed for development.
Source?
Not officially, but it's going to happen regardless. Knowing Capcom, RE8 is going to happen first, and then RE3 Remake. I would be surprised if they do REmake 3 first, but it's not likely gonna come to that. With the success REmake2, everyone is on that RE high right now.

You can believe me or not on this one; it's up to you. I don't care. If I end up wrong, oh well.

EDIT: https://www.videogamer.com/news/rumour-resident-evil-3-remake-already-in-the-works