Really Microsoft, Just Make Yourself A Monopoly And Get Over It That Way You Don't Have To Steel.

[Silva]

He was wrong to call it stealing, and you are too. It's called COMPETITIVE PRACTICES.

It might not be "stealing" as such, but the fact is that Microsoft is doing something here that inconveniences a lot of consumers. Monopolies like these are the method Microsoft used to become big in software and computers; they'd suffocate the opposition out of having anything original by buying out the producer.

Every time they do that, it pulls down the value of owning that competitor's piece of equipment, which for the consumer who bought that rather than the others, is plain shitty. Objecting to that isn't fanboyism. It's just common sense not to like it.

Besides, such tactics put the future of the industry as a whole in question. If Microsoft uses its endless resources to do this here, eventually they might be the only major games company. And while it's true that developers won't disappear, it's likely that in trying to please Microsoft's practices, a lot of variety and diversity will be lost. Not to mention how many people who buy the other console - for whatever reason - will be cheated out of the full value of their cash in the meantime.

 

[Leorex]

He was wrong to call it stealing, and you are too. It's called COMPETITIVE PRACTICES.

It might not be "stealing" as such, but the fact is that Microsoft is doing something here that inconveniences a lot of consumers. Monopolies like these are the method Microsoft used to become big in software and computers; they'd suffocate the opposition out of having anything original by buying out the producer.

Every time they do that, it pulls down the value of owning that competitor's piece of equipment, which for the consumer who bought that rather than the others, is plain shitty.
Objecting to that isn't fanboyism. It's just common sense not to like it.

Besides, such tactics put the future of the industry as a whole in question. If Microsoft uses its endless resources to do this here, eventually they might be the only major games company. And while it's true that developers won't disappear, it's likely that in trying to please Microsoft's practices, a lot of variety and diversity will be lost. Not to mention how many people who buy the other console - for whatever reason - will be cheated out of the full value of their cash in the meantime.

its not inconveniencing anyone, in fact its alowing more coustomers to play more games.

and if microsoft uses there limitless powers to get rid of exclusives then im all for it.

 

[Gitsnik]

Coincidentally exactly when they went on the Microsoft payroll? Its just a huge coincidence that the last great game Rare made was the last game they made before Microsoft started sniffing around?

As for Psychonauts, you are aware that the game didn't sell well, right? Which can be attributed almost fully to little to no advertising, which came about fully because Microsoft dropped the title.

They stopped making good games because they stopped making good games. A studio that until that point has produced wonderous games can all of a sudden start to publish turds. It's happened more than once. Besides, since when has being funded been an inclination to fail at producing a good result, especially since LionHead has had the same benefits and produced good games? This is just the fault of Rare, don't try to pin it on the company that hired them.

I honestly saw adverts for the game everywhere, but it may have just been me. And besides, considering that they now offer the title in their Originals that you can download, I'd hardly say that they "dropped" the title. And why would that have been any reason for the game to not be advertised? It was on the PS2 as well, after all. I should know: that's the system I purchased it for.

So according to you, talent just evaporates? A person can just wake up one morning and forget everything they know?

Not to agree with the guy, but I know a bloke who literally woke up one morning and went "I'm burnt out". He tried to keep going to work but eventually just quit and retired on his superannuation.

You see a similar trend in the IT industry - we tend to be over worked because it should just work, and we don't yet have a union to tell people to get boned.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

I'm sick of people acuusng microsoft of stealing ideas and games from other companies and then being accused of "monopolizing." Microsoft isnt "buying" people out. Im sure if 3rd party developers thought they could make a lot of money by making 360 exclusives for other consoles they would. But what some people seem to be forgetting is that microsoft had computer games before they had a console. Im sure if Microsoft never made a console then games like Halo and Half-Life would be PC exclusive. As far as stealing ideas goes, that is ludacris. Take the first car for example. It was crap. When other people saw it they thought "hmm, maybe we can make a better one of those." And when they did the people who made the first car didnt say "but hey that was our idea". No they saw what was made and attempted to make a better one. Its like the motion controls for the Wii. They are "nice", and Microsoft just made it better w/ Project Natal. That is also why 1 console would fail. No competion so the drive to create something better is not there. I originally read somewhere that one console equals cheaper games, i thought that's awesome. But i would prefer to pay more and have competion in the market.

 

[Compatriot Block]

Oh boo hoo. We Xbox 360 owners actually get to play a game from a series that up until now has been on almost exclusively Sony systems, and you make it sound like the world is fucking ending. The kicker is you still get the game on the PS3. Stop whining, they're not "steeling," "stealing" or whatever you want to accuse Microsoft of. We get to play a sweet game, and so do you.

This is like if on Christmas morning, you, Sonny, wake up and get 50$ from your uncle. For the last few years, he has sent only you this particular gift. However, this year he decided to also send 50$ to your brother, McSoft. And you ***** and moan because you aren't the only person getting the present, and accuse McSoft of stealing your uncle's love away from you.

If Sony bought the right to have a former Xbox exclusive on the PS3, would you be upset with Sony?

I fully expect to be told that there are, in fact, no Xbox exclusives worth having.

 

[CyberAkuma]

if anyone is to have many exclusives it should be Sony becase you can acually play the game on the console befor it getts the RROD and if it does get a system failure then the customer suppor is much better.

So it's bad if MicroSoft has monopoly rights to big exclusive games, but if SONY has it, it's okay?

Fanboy logic...

It sounds like this kid is just another falmboyant fanby crying about SONY-exclusives being lost to the Xbox360.
Move along. There is nothing to see here.

 

[LadyZephyr]

... Anyone consider maybe Kojima wanted to make more money, so he went multi-console?

I mean, why the exclusive blame on Microsoft? Konami and the Godtier Troll are just as easily blamed. Staying exclusive is a bad idea business-wise. You can only collect cash from one set of fans. If you go multi-platform, then you get money from everyone. It's just more profitable.

Ask yourself this: When MGS4 was PS3-only, how much do you think Sony ponied up to keep it that way? We're talking about Hideo Fucking Kojima, who's remade and revamps his entire cash cow franchise. MGS1 and MGS2 were released on different companies' consoles.

Also, every MGS has gotten a rerelease so far. When MGS4's exclusivity clause is up, you can bet on the 360 people getting in on that action. Remember how Konami trademarked Metal Gear Solid: Existence? That's probably gonna be it.

Full Disclosure: Yes, I'm 360-only because I can't afford a PS3. That said, I don't give a flying fuck about MGS4 because I think the plot was complete and utter shit, and I play/watch MGS games for the plot above all else. Oh, and MGS5/Rising can blow me. A new clone of Big Boss? GTFO, Kojima, if you hate the series so much. Make something new.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

If Sony bought the right to have a former Xbox exclusive on the PS3, would you be upset with Sony?

I agree w/ you that he is complaining; lets be realistic though. What are the chances sony would dish out that kind of money? I'd have to give it no chance.

 

[Silva]

its not inconveniencing anyone, in fact its alowing more coustomers to play more games.

and if microsoft uses there limitless powers to get rid of exclusives then im all for it.

It is allowing Microsoft's customers to play more games overall. Part of the appeal in buying a system is that it will have some good releases for it that the other will not. It's a defining factor. And if the company suffers from a lack of exclusives, its prices of consoles go down, and its profits lower. This means that over time, less and less exclusives and new features will appear.

Meanwhile, your system gets other exclusives that the PS3 doesn't get. This is where it becomes a problem. See, this problem is a long-term thing. If you don't think in the long-term, you will miss the point of complaint.

Microsoft isn't getting rid of exclusives, it is merely making it so it is the only company that has them. And that's not cool.

... Anyone consider maybe Kojima wanted to make more money, so he went multi-console?

I mean, why the exclusive blame on Microsoft? Konami and the Godtier Troll are just as easily blamed. Staying exclusive is a bad idea business-wise. You can only collect cash from one set of fans. If you go multi-platform, then you get money from everyone. It's just more profitable.

The exclusive blame is commonly on Microsoft because this is happening on a wider scale than just Metal Gear.

 

[khain13]

What I think companies should do is make a single console that can work with all PS3 games, all 360 games and all Nintendo games all connected to the same server so that gamers can all play together. Or just make a completly new console that has games worked on by all of the big 3 so that there isn't going to be this ruthless fight to the death to see who has the most exclusives. This would also make it much easier for developers to make their games because what ever make only has to be configured for 1 console, not 2 or three.

I think the word you are looking for is "PC".

The PC has been the driving force for video graphics innovation and is already 2+ generations ahead of the current consoles. It plays games from all kinds of developers (including Sony and Microsoft) and has plenty of potential to play Nintendo games given the proper emulator.

If all devs would make PC versions of their games there would be no "console war".

That being said, you would still end up shelling out money to microsoft, so they win either way. Why do you think they want to kill off Sony and Nintendo? Because they make more money from Windows licensing.

 

[Vrex360]

I don't honestly see how this is such a big deal, honestly I don't. Don't anyone dare try to say that only Microsoft has been guilty of this, Heavenly Sword was originally in development for the 360 and Sony bought them out, Bioshock was a 360 and PC exclusive and yet Sony got that too, I didn't see you compaining then though did I? Or indeed anyone for that matter. This also stretches to nintendo, having bought out Sonic as a franchise.... bad move in the long run.
Can we just call it even and leave this topic alone, because this reeeeeeks of fanboy flame war, a combination of sweat, cheetoes, arrogance, obnoxiousness and insecurity.

 

[Compatriot Block]

If Sony bought the right to have a former Xbox exclusive on the PS3, would you be upset with Sony?

I agree w/ you that he is complaining; lets be realistic though. What are the chances sony would dish out that kind of money? I'd have to give it no chance.

That really...wasn't the point I was trying to make with my post.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

If Sony bought the right to have a former Xbox exclusive on the PS3, would you be upset with Sony?

I agree w/ you that he is complaining; lets be realistic though. What are the chances sony would dish out that kind of money? I'd have to give it no chance.

That really...wasn't the point I was trying to make with my post.

I know. I was just adding my own opinion to part of your post.

 

[akmarksman]

I won't settle until there is a MGS game for my nokia N-GAGE..


j/k


Personally I don't care because the MGS franchise hasn't made sense since the days of the NES..

Give me Modern Warfare 2.

Keep your metal barrels and cardboard boxes..

 

[TheTygerfire]

Microsoft are in the "iron and steel industry" now?

Yeah i heard about MS buisness moves first they want to produece genreic games,now they want to prodiece generic stsinless steel, DOES THEIR TRACHERY KNOW NO BOUNDS!!!???

And I guess they also got bought by someone named Bill Gate.

 

[Khazoth]

This entire post is about evil ol' Microsoft stealing franchises? LOL.

Maybe its because the Playstation 3 is a failure. I loved my Playstation 2, but sometime in the development of the Playstation 3 the development team was replaced with.. something.. very bad. (It's 3 A.M., I can't think of anything snappy.)

Maybe its because I can see patterns, but does anyone see a dreamcast in the making? I suspect the Playstation 3 will fail and everyone will claim it was because it had artistic value that the public at large didn't "get." Which is as much bullshit now as it was then.

 

[Jeronus]

You make it sound like Sony and Microsoft are kids and exclusives are the toys they play with. They are businesses and exclusives take money away from the competitors. Simple as that and it is not theft. It is called good business sense.

 

[PezNic]

personally i dont think they should have just 1 console, i reckon they should just ditch consoles in general and stick to the PC. Good ol' keyboard and mouse

 

[megapenguinx]

They didn't buy out anything.... jeez a franchise appears on one console and everyone freaks out about it.

 

[DragunovHUN]

Because SONY is all "r exclusievs r betta lololol", arrogant bastards.