really you let your kid play THIS
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Seriously, I can't see the problem in letting kids play violent video games.
I've been playing them since I was 5, my first games were Duke Nukem 3D, GTA 1, Starcraft, Resident Evil (and also games like Tarzan and Hercules
)... then I continued playing games (when I was six, or so) like GTA III, GTA Vice City... come to think of it I didn't play any games for a while then.
And now, just a year or two ago, I played No More Heroes and Madworld, both games with tons (or liters, rather) of blood and sexuality.
Still, I have a great social life (seriously), I'm one of the best in my class, and I don't have any psychological problems to speak of.
I've been playing them since I was 5, my first games were Duke Nukem 3D, GTA 1, Starcraft, Resident Evil (and also games like Tarzan and Hercules
)... then I continued playing games (when I was six, or so) like GTA III, GTA Vice City... come to think of it I didn't play any games for a while then.And now, just a year or two ago, I played No More Heroes and Madworld, both games with tons (or liters, rather) of blood and sexuality.
Still, I have a great social life (seriously), I'm one of the best in my class, and I don't have any psychological problems to speak of.
...What GTA have you been playing? That isn't even close to anything you can do in the game. I think you're confusing games as they are with how games are in the mind of a conservative OAP psychopath. It's an easy mistake to make, seeing as how the media keeps coming up with ludicrously graphic acts to describe what you can do in video games that only exist in their minds (and outside of most programmer's/animator's abilities...)Mister Awesome said:
Also, Red Dead's worst action is shooting people. This summarises 90% of games that exist.
Aaaaanyway, I'd be perfectly happy letting my kids play 18 rated games, but only when they can demonstrate that they know the difference between reality and fiction.
well the midgets at my school all seem to be playing any samy generic FPS they can get their hands on and every single one seems to have memorized GTA 4's dialogue, however i can't be overtly critical of their parents because as a child my parents let me play half life, Thief, and Duke Nukem. I guess as we get older it becomes more apparent that kids who shouldn't be playing certain games are, just like we were when we were little.
trying to stop kids from playing violent video games is not easy but it's doable. my folks didn't allow me to play games like mortal kombat or splatter house when i was a kid...i played them anyway over at other friends houses but the point is they tried to keep me from them and i did have the decency to fill guilty about playing them. They also beat into my head why they didn't want me playing the games and i think that was enough to teach me not act out anything i saw in a game.
Kids are going to find a way to play violent video games. I'm not saying the parents should give up. Just that they continue to do what they can to minimize their childs contact with them and to make sure they realize that its not ok to act out game violance in real life.
oh and if they find out that a kids been play violent video games behind there back they need to ground there asses.
Kids are going to find a way to play violent video games. I'm not saying the parents should give up. Just that they continue to do what they can to minimize their childs contact with them and to make sure they realize that its not ok to act out game violance in real life.
oh and if they find out that a kids been play violent video games behind there back they need to ground there asses.
I understand, I was more using your post as a jumping off point than straight up singling you out. It is easier to quote one person than the amount of people spewing liberal nonsense in this thread. I did pick up on the hyperbole in your post and figured you would respond from it. It will probably happen again as I am going to quote another line for similar reasons. The point I am stressing has nothing to do with "games cause violent actions". That's why I cleared that up first in my initial post. (The first couple lines in your quote of me.)AgDr_ODST said:
The obsession to let kids be responsible for good judgement calls so early. Kids by nature have a hard time seperating fiction from reality. Kids are smart yes, but their imaginations and/or pure naivity can often times overrule their judgement. Additionally this is a time in their lives when they should be learning basic communication and social skills and learning how to make proper judgement calls and all that. This stuff needs parental guidance in a somewhat controlled environment. How does this type of media positively help them do that in any way? Please don't say that this will teach them to seperate the difference between violence in fiction and violence in reality because it won't. At best it will desensitize them to violence which is not a positive attribute when that is going to happen in everybodies life regardless, eventually. There is no positive to this other than they get to do what everybody else (not true) their age is doing.IxionIndustries said:
As for your last line, so let the the Dahmer's raise their son however they want right? Back when beating your children had no law against it, hey, there was no law, let them raise them how they want. (Hyperbole is intended for such a hyperbolised initial quote.)
Society should have some hand in offering parental guidance as your parental decisions ripple into society. Society has been massing an army of 30 year old Beavis and Buttheads and it isn't improving. Generation Y has a taken a massive leap in lack of maturity (as opposed to genereation X where we failed to increase it or even stay level) and the people that do that whole generation thing are unsure as to why. But when you look at the loss of family values steadily becoming less valued by society since the 70's I think it is pretty apparent. (I know that is a generalization but it is based on statistics of a large demographic.) Am I saying video games make people stupid or immature? No, but my arguement is and always will be (until proven otherwise) that mature content being offered to children can stifle their maturity. Heck, I would even say it could have long term effects on their maturity even reaching as far as into their 40s and 50s if the right circumstances were granted to the child.
There are all kinds of bad decisions a parent can make. Exposing your child to mature content because:
I love the line "good parents and trust him." It's like they are being "good dogs" for rolling over. How do you trust a 9 year old or a 5 year old with picking content that they believe is on par with their understanding of reality? They don't even think about crap like that. All they know is their buddy Billy Johnson played it and they wanna play it too. I mean come on, when I was nine I would watch scambled playboy just to see the occassional unscrambled boob.If a naked woman stood in front of me I would have had no idea how to get the ball rolling so to speak but that isn't what I needed to know at 9. I needed to know how to show respect, when the appropriate time to show response, to pay attention to something important, etc. I needed to have these things burned into my brain so I could do them as instinct. Now today we have all kinds of kids that do not know how to show respect, are desensitized to alot and unresponsive (aspurgers for one), and a rising case of A.D.D.BlindMessiah94 said:
I am not saying that videogames are the sole contributors but can you at least see the connection? And perhaps can admit that possibly it is not a good idea for a maturing mind to be exposed to high levels of this type of content?
i think its fine, as long as the parent points out that what the people in the video games are doing is WRONG. But i think GoW might be a bit much, those chainsaws were nasty.
Dude, thank you so much for this quote.Nouw said:
EDIT: And congratulations you have good parents as much as that sucks sometimes.
Had Mario games by age 4, and yet I refuse to stop on turtles or seek out mushrooms and gold coins to search for some princess who would get captured again before the year is out....
Sure, now I'm on games that have been banned in other countries and censored in the rest. But nothing an uncensor patch can't fix. As long as the kid isn't talking crap like in 98% of the videos on youtube
Fat kid argues with parents on X-box Live
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVEpPc89NQ
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUzzCpHKYb8
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5-7RuBxcY
Most of the annoying brats online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhM9kowltxo
Sure, now I'm on games that have been banned in other countries and censored in the rest. But nothing an uncensor patch can't fix. As long as the kid isn't talking crap like in 98% of the videos on youtube
Fat kid argues with parents on X-box Live
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVEpPc89NQ
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUzzCpHKYb8
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5-7RuBxcY
Most of the annoying brats online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhM9kowltxo
Bullshit!!!! Pure and utter Bullshit. Rising cases of ADD my fuckin ass. Guess what kids are naturally hyper. Guess what kids don't like sitting in a school all day having someone teach them crap they don't care about. Oh gee little Jimmy isn't paying attention quick get him on drugs and then we can blame video games and the media. It is amazing the human race survived this long. I wonder how our ancestors dealt with ADD.Savagezion said:
How about we blame the law for our kids problems? How about we blame the fact that we are no longer allowed to give them the ass kickings they deserve for thier disrespectful behaviour. Oh yeah that would kinda fall away from the blaming media game and WE CAN'T FUCKING WELL HAVE THAT CAN WE?
I noticed that In Japan parents tend not to complain about games being too bad for their children. They already have a few censoring laws but that's just Japanese.
I figure it's because Japanese parents tend to blame themselves for everything their children do. Good or bad. Where as parents in he western world will blame everything but themselves.
I figure it's because Japanese parents tend to blame themselves for everything their children do. Good or bad. Where as parents in he western world will blame everything but themselves.
I was playing violent videogames and watching violent movies when I was a kid. Then again, now I'm totally fucked in the head so I'm not the best posterboy for the gaming generation.
I think it's all down to the parents, to be honest - if they want to let their kid play violent games, then they should have the right to, but it it makes them desensitized they shouldn't have any right to try and sue the games studios/marilyn manson for it. I think the realism involved today in games is a major sticking point though; I'd be uneasy about my kid playing the original grand theft auto, but at least i'd recognise that it's pretty unrealistic and funny. but GTA4? or Modern Warfare? Not too sure about that.
I think it's all down to the parents, to be honest - if they want to let their kid play violent games, then they should have the right to, but it it makes them desensitized they shouldn't have any right to try and sue the games studios/marilyn manson for it. I think the realism involved today in games is a major sticking point though; I'd be uneasy about my kid playing the original grand theft auto, but at least i'd recognise that it's pretty unrealistic and funny. but GTA4? or Modern Warfare? Not too sure about that.
Although I can see why people would be worried, it's down to the player in a way. I started playing GTA3 when I was barely a teenager, it's violent, but at the same time, I knew it was just entertainment. If anything it just made me realise that I didn't ever want to be hit with a baseball bat.