Reasons to not be worried about the Xbox One

[The Wykydtron]

Welllll, i'm having fun watching the reaction videos on Youtube. That's something right?


"We took the old, original Xbox hardware... And put it in a shiny new box."

"Here's the new Ghost Recon... I'mma go kill myself"

[sub][sub]Fuckin' Dunkey[/sub][/sub]


But yeah, this is pretty much free advertising for the PS4 and Wii U. Lolololol

 

[chozo_hybrid]

When carrying over your gamertag to the next machine, will it still be able to be used on the 360? That's something my brother wants to know.

Needing a once per day connection sucks, every now and then my net goes down, so what am I supposed to do if it doesn't make it in time and I want to play my games on a day off when it's pouring like rain like it does often where I live.

I don't buy the whole "we couldn't make it backwards compatible." thing, for the disc stuff, sure okay fine, the hardware might clash with things. But all the XBL Arcade titles, pure digital, I think it's bullshit.

I can't even borrow a friends game, I'd have to pay a fee (apparently the price the game is going for if what is heard is correct) just have a go at Generic shooter 5000, to find out if it is really all that bad or what ever. The amount of times I have bought a game because I was able to play it thanks to a friend is huge, half my 360 games roughly have been bought due to being able to try before I buy.

It's the price for the game and your friend will no longer be able to play it when you borrow it. Edit: it will be deleted from his hard drive according to what I read.

The console isn't blocking used game, it just forces you to pay the price of A new game before you can play the used game. There is a difference between that and blocking the game and that difference is that now used games have just become more expensive than new games. Reason not to worry? Yeah, it certainly made me stop worrying since this was what made me go from 70% sure that I wouldn't get it to 100% sure. I don't even like buying games used and I always buy new when I have the option, but when a company blatantly screws over its customers then I will try to avoid it if I have other options.

The machine is definitely something I am going to avoid. Accepting this sort of thing because "It's not thaaaat bad" like some people are saying, is allowing them to push it further with each piece of new tech. If this sells okay, what's to stop them thinking the next machine has to be always online for the 4th Xbox, because people were fine with it partly. That's the kind of shit we see from executives these days, what's to stop it getting worse if people keep buying all this and putting up with being treated this way.

 

[EstrogenicMuscle]

It will NOT be backwards compatible

Spoiler

"Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games?games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. We care very much about the investment you have made in Xbox 360 and will continue to support it with a pipeline of new games and new apps well into the future."

I've got a better reason not to worry about the XBOX One. Nobody will actually buy the terrible thing.

None of these excuses fix the fact the system is laden will terrible DRM that the consumer never will and never should put with. There's no defending this XBOX, it's gone, I'm sorry.

Unless they completely remove everything that is wrong with the current XBOX and apologize, there is no chance of recovery. The worst that the Wii U has to put up with is a somehow weak launch. What the XBOX One has to put up with is a locked down system that nobody wants to deal with.

 

[RicoADF]

...It seems like on the hardware end they seem to have taken alot of complaints to heart, and apparently theres going to be FIFTEEN first party titles lined up for launch (and shown at E3). If the majority aren't Kinect titles, they may avoid the long gaming wasteland that happened after the launch back in '05...

The problem is doing too much with too little. The Playstation 4 is as impressive as it is because it's for gaming. That's what it does. 8gb GDDR5 RAM for nothing but gaming? That's intense.
Microsoft's tri-OS system ensures everything is running all the time. That 8gb of DDR3 RAM in the Xbone? You've just lost about 2-3GB of it for crap most gamers aren't going to use at all. Their 8 Core CPU? It has one core dedicated to Kinect, one core dedicated for TV components, and one dedicated to the actual console's tri-OS system. You now have 5 cores available to game developers.

The games aren't going to do enough in the first gen of titles with that kind performance hamstring to drive the amount of sales Microsoft is banking on. No one is going to fork out US$500.00 for a powerful TV Box when you buy them for less than US$100.00. Those fifteen games need to do more than any other launch line up in history just to overcome the cloud of negativity that has enveloped the Xbone on it's first day in the world. We're talking a string of instant classics that win over the core gamer despite all the negativity.

I can't see it happening.

Wait, it has an 8-core CPU? It seems Microsoft have fallen into the same trap that Sony did with the PS3. That unusual architecture will make it much harder to develop for cross-platform.

It sounds like its the same as the PS4, an AMD 8core APU. However I'm not 100% sure. If it is then thats awesome, if not then failz big time.

 

[Ishigami]

I haven't seen anything that would worry me.
Registering the games to the XBL accounts is just adopting the Steam system and Kinect is still a thing for MS.
It will very much boil down to what games will be available. The hardware seems competent enough.

 

[Jayemsal]

Why is not being backwards compatible a good thing? I can't just rebuy all old games on the next console, especially since they won't all be available.

I can't just keep old consoles forever. I don't have infinite space here.

OH....

But you CAN buy all those games again....

At top dollar price even...

Are you not lucky?

 

[Frezzato]

Yeah...

Those certainly were some selective quotes you chose, OP.

A better quote:

Q: Why require Kinect with every Xbox One?
A: The all new Kinect is now an essential and integrated part of the platform. By having it as a consistent part of every Xbox One, game and entertainment creators can build experiences that assume the availability of voice, gesture and natural sensing, leading to unrivaled ease of use, premium experiences and interactivity for you.

Right, so I wonder if the Xbone will work if I unplugged Kinect? Because that'll be the first thing I check for before even considering buying one.

 

[RikuoAmero]

...It seems like on the hardware end they seem to have taken alot of complaints to heart, and apparently theres going to be FIFTEEN first party titles lined up for launch (and shown at E3). If the majority aren't Kinect titles, they may avoid the long gaming wasteland that happened after the launch back in '05...

The problem is doing too much with too little. The Playstation 4 is as impressive as it is because it's for gaming. That's what it does. 8gb GDDR5 RAM for nothing but gaming? That's intense.
Microsoft's tri-OS system ensures everything is running all the time. That 8gb of DDR3 RAM in the Xbone? You've just lost about 2-3GB of it for crap most gamers aren't going to use at all. Their 8 Core CPU? It has one core dedicated to Kinect, one core dedicated for TV components, and one dedicated to the actual console's tri-OS system. You now have 5 cores available to game developers.

The games aren't going to do enough in the first gen of titles with that kind performance hamstring to drive the amount of sales Microsoft is banking on. No one is going to fork out US$500.00 for a powerful TV Box when you buy them for less than US$100.00. Those fifteen games need to do more than any other launch line up in history just to overcome the cloud of negativity that has enveloped the Xbone on it's first day in the world. We're talking a string of instant classics that win over the core gamer despite all the negativity.

I can't see it happening.

Wait, it has an 8-core CPU? It seems Microsoft have fallen into the same trap that Sony did with the PS3. That unusual architecture will make it much harder to develop for cross-platform.

Just to correct you on that - the PS3 used CELL architecture, whereas the new Xbox and PS4 are both using x86-64, the same type of architecture as a PC. This means that a game developer can very easily port games from one machine to another

 

[Ironside]

So its going to be a 'SimCity style Always Online' with a bigger time limit?

Yeah that's a bullshit dealbreaker right there, even without the rumors swirling around used games.

Actually its probably going to be almost the same as SimCity - they already said it was up to the devs to choose always online or not, but they wanted them to use it, so you could just have dozens of sim city disasters on their console now.

 

[RikuoAmero]

Yeah...

Those certainly were some selective quotes you chose, OP.

A better quote:

Q: Why require Kinect with every Xbox One?
A: The all new Kinect is now an essential and integrated part of the platform. By having it as a consistent part of every Xbox One, game and entertainment creators can build experiences that assume the availability of voice, gesture and natural sensing, leading to unrivaled ease of use, premium experiences and interactivity for you.

Right, so I wonder if the Xbone will work if I unplugged Kinect? Because that'll be the first thing I check for before even considering buying one.

That in and of itself is a game-breaker for me. I don't have anywhere to put a Kinect. My Xbox is on the floor next to my TV in my bedroom, and the TV is on a dresser. There's no room for me to put a Kinect and I am not going out to buy a separate stand that will watch me jerking off while playing Call of Battlefront's Halo: Big Explosions and Tits 5.

 

[Silenttalker22]

Here's a fun fact from extensive personal experience:
Sailors, underway, have egregious amounts of time to try and fill. Know what they do with that free time? Play lots of games. Know what there is NONE of on a naval ship, for all the enlisted people? Internet access for anything but the ship's network. So the Xbox Dumb is useless to countless deployed military people who love playing games to kill time. In 2003 I played Diablo 2 underway. I'm glad Diablo 3 wasn't my best option. So.. more of that with this.

Decisions so stupid, it's amazing they saw the light of day.

 

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Why is not being backwards compatible a good thing? I can't just rebuy all old games on the next console, especially since they won't all be available.

I can't just keep old consoles forever. I don't have infinite space here.

OH....

But you CAN buy all those games again....

At top dollar price even...

Are you not lucky?

Not if they're not re-made for the new console, you can't.

 

[Genocidicles]

You can still trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games
"We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We?ll have more details to share later."


Whilst the last statement may sound slightly ominous, we'll just have to wait and see.

Major Nelson said on his blog that people playing used games would have to pay unless the original game's owner was signed in on their console.

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/

 

[Undomesticated Equine]

XBOX is big deal if you are living in US, but if you live in small country in Europe Microshit will not even acknowledge your existence. Also PC are much more useful than a console plus I doubt there will ever be something as awesome as Kerbal Space Program on any XBOX ever. I do not understand why people buy this things.

 

[Silenttalker22]

so I wonder if the Xbone will work if I unplugged Kinect? Because that'll be the first thing I check for before even considering buying one.

I immediately wondered if cutting the cable would result in some kind of communication errors, or not.

 

[Basement Cat]

Requiring any kind of internet connection--no matter how intermittent--will cut off the ability of many military personnel posted abroad to make use of the new Xbone.

I wonder if they took that particular demographic in mind when they started requiring internet connections? I somehow doubt it.

Moreover I can see it raising quite a Public Relations stink if "the few and the proud" find themselves console-less when deployed to hellholes in the middle east.


Reporter: "Tell us, Microsoft, is this internet connection default necessary for soldiers to use the Xbox One abroad?"

Microsoft: "Well, yes, but-"

Reporter: "So wouldn't it then be in the best interest of American soldiers who find themselves deployed to the middle east and potentially out of contact with the internet for days or even weeks to take along some other gaming system? One that doesn't have a built in 'service denial' feature?"

Microsoft: ".....um....."

 

[88chaz88]

The only reason not to be worried about the Xbox One is there's a Playstation 4 available.

Also PC, if you wish to join the master race.

 

[Guy from the 80's]

I thought Xone looked pretty good.

Regarding the internet thing, Im not worried. I got a fast connection. And to those who are still on Isdn, the console is obviously not ment for you.

I'll buy it and I look forward to 15 new franchises and Spielbergs Halo.

Edit> And as far as those games goes, I think its unreasonable to think that MS is not going to open their wallets as they are beating the war drums.

 

[Festus Moonbear]

Here's my reason not to worry about the Xbox One: I only got my 360 less than a year ago and it's all still new to me, so I still have almost a decade's worth of games to get through before I have to worry about upgrading - and since I couldn't give a shit about playing games where characters have more facial muscles, I don't really care about missing out on any of the upcoming nextgen games. Awesome.

 

[Genocidicles]

Regarding the internet thing, Im not worried. I got a fast connection. And to those who are still on Isdn, the console is obviously not ment for you.

It doesn't matter about your connection, it matters about Microsoft's. What if there's another launch day fiasco like Diablo 3 or Simcity?