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Malkavian said:
Mebulous said:
What do you think of Ayn Rand? I found that book extremely long winded and boring. I also don't think the human race needs a philosophy about why selfishness will help them personally, seems like we got that covered. But I dunno, perhaps I missed the point. Alan Greenspan was a huge fan of her philosophy...
100 pages in so far, only got started a few days ago. Not much of a plot yet, so yes, perhaps long winded.

As for Rands philosophy of Objectivism, it's not so much about selfishnes(well, it is, but not in a negative way), as it is about the pursuit of happiness being a central objective in life, being judged morally for your objective worth, and not man-made concepts. I like it because it is so grounded in realism. No lofty, god-given ideals, just a look at what we humans are actually like, admitting to it, and then forming ideals from that.

Not that I subscribe to the idea, but I can appreciate it. I like it when people don't get mired in ideologies, but take a realistic look at their surroundings.

But we'll see once I finish the book. This is the first actual Rand material I read, instead of others discussing the philosophy.
I guess when I want to read something grounded in reality and not morality I go with Kant.
 

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Mebulous said:
Malkavian said:
Mebulous said:
What do you think of Ayn Rand? I found that book extremely long winded and boring. I also don't think the human race needs a philosophy about why selfishness will help them personally, seems like we got that covered. But I dunno, perhaps I missed the point. Alan Greenspan was a huge fan of her philosophy...
100 pages in so far, only got started a few days ago. Not much of a plot yet, so yes, perhaps long winded.

As for Rands philosophy of Objectivism, it's not so much about selfishnes(well, it is, but not in a negative way), as it is about the pursuit of happiness being a central objective in life, being judged morally for your objective worth, and not man-made concepts. I like it because it is so grounded in realism. No lofty, god-given ideals, just a look at what we humans are actually like, admitting to it, and then forming ideals from that.

Not that I subscribe to the idea, but I can appreciate it. I like it when people don't get mired in ideologies, but take a realistic look at their surroundings.

But we'll see once I finish the book. This is the first actual Rand material I read, instead of others discussing the philosophy.
I guess when I want to read something grounded in reality and not morality I go with Kant.
Not a bad choice. My first touch with a realistic approach was Nietszche, so he holds a special place in my heart. I don't do much philosophical reading these days, though.