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[Custard_Angel]

Having played more than 5 hours of Monster Hunter Tri, I don't feel that it warrants, nor deserves a greater amount of time to play it. Would the review seem different if this was indeed the case? Probably. Would his overall tone or recommendation change? Probably not.

 

[Loonerinoes]

I'd say he is ideally suited for this website and for its forum community - especially considering its typical reactions to any new additions that pop up on the Escapist.

I'll let you think about what I really mean by saying that and conclude that yes - you'd be foolish to take him 100% seriously. But within his pitch black humor there hides an element of truth that fanboys of the game in question will almost always decry as "That's complete bullshit!" As for myself, I like listening to one favourite reviewer and one favourite critic before deciding upon a game. And so long as Yahtzee keeps up putting his effort into Windows Movie Maker and talking really fast, he'll stay as my favourite critic.

And to all the morons thinking that he's sold out, really...why do you bother listening to critics as opposed to reviewers? If you do not like his style, read what a reviewer has to say about a game and stay at that. As for me, I'll listen to both the cynical and the positive voices.

I don't think anybody is wrong about calling out this review as bullshit, seeing as, excluding the tutorial missions, none of the complaints Yahtzee pointed out hold true, except *maybe* having to grind materials, and that's grinding materials from bosses, not grinding fetch quests. Even then, you can get all the materials you need for weapons in one boss fight (which is the mission anyway) and armor is more about the skills it gives than defense, so you can get by in starting gear if you had to.

Good! Then you consider the review in question to be bullshit! Heck, I considered a few points he makes about MMOs in general to be bullshit too, considering how opposed he's become to multiplayer in general as times goes on.

That does not mean however that he isn't right on other points within video games. But it's up to each person to decide what to accept and what not to accept from what he says. Unfortunately most people decide not to accept what he says more often than not because they are fanboys and rarely due to actual well-thought out reasons.

 

[Sporky111]

He is a comedian, but I think that more than two hours should be put in. As long as he's going to be making fun of the game, he should be giving himself ample material to work with. But, as the contributor it's his choice to play as long as he likes as long as he can release another show every week. Fan-service is great stuff, but it's hardly required.

That being said he has to play the game, write the script, animate the show, and stitch it all together. Every week, on his own. And on top of that, he's been running the Mana Bar lately so maybe we could cut him some slack for a while.

 

[Harrowdown]

No disrespect to Yahtzee (he's brilliant at what he does), but he's not exactly striving to be unbiased and perfectly professional in his reviews. That's fine, though, 'cause it's what he does. 2 hours is long enough if the game can't keep you interested for longer. Says more about Monster Hunter than his professionalism.

 

[milskidasith]

No disrespect to Yahtzee (he's brilliant at what he does), but he's not exactly striving to be unbiased and perfectly professional in his reviews. That's fine, though, 'cause it's what he does. 2 hours is long enough if the game can't keep you interested for longer. Says more about Monster Hunter than his professionalism.

Why will people not get this through their heads: This is not about the fact he didn't play the game forever and ever and ever.

This is about the fact he was disingenuous about the fact he quit. If there hadn't been a huge flood of posts about this subject, most people would think the game is only killing weak monsters and doing fetch quest tutorial missions, and plenty of people still do thanks to his video. If he had said "I couldn't be assed to play because it was so boring starting" there would have been *none* of the furor about the video.

 

[wildpeaks]

It happens that a game tester is only able (or willing) to play only the first few hours of a game; he's got many titles to review and only so much time to do so, so it's not surprising that he has to take shortcuts from time to time imho, even if I see and sympatize with what the OP meant.

Ok this needs to be cleared up; hes not a reviewer...
[HEADING=1] HE'S A GAME CRITIC [/HEADING]
There is a difference.

Correction: He's a comedian that acts like a game critic.

Exactly.

 

[wildpeaks]

"Always look on the bright, side of life "

Or come to the dark side, we have cookies

 

[chaos order]

i usually dont take any of his comments to heart, i mean its for comedy. however there are points that i listen to in order to get seom ideas for the game. although his reviews r mainly for comedy he can make good points

 

[RadicalDreamer90]

Monster Hunter has always had terrible start up, so even if Yahtzee played 5 hours, he'd just have more to complain about. All three games have had the same problem FF13 just recently contracted which is pacing. A game can have the greatest end game experience, but if it fails to deliver an immmersive first impression, then its all for not. If I have trouble playing an hour of a game, why the hell would I play more?

You compared his play length to FF13, but that only made it obvious why he stopped to begin with. I'm a Final Fantasy Fan and If you didn't enjoy 13 after 2 hours, I would have told you to give up too. Though it gets better and I still completely destroyed the game, it's nothing life changing, and worth the start up if your not already on board. Fans can go as far as to play a game sequel no matter how bad -.-, and some seem to blatantly stand up for a dying dog, even though it's on it's last breath.

I dunno why we needed another thread on this, Seeing as though arguing something about Yahtzee's review, on another post when Yahtzee already posted one is kind of redundant. Our word comes down to opinion in the end, but Christ, I think we only need one post for something as trivial.

 

[lapan]

Honestly, his reviews are a good laugh and not much more than that. People should stop taking his every word so srious.

 

[LikeTeeth]

I'm sure it's been said many times before that he doesn't actually review games, even if that is his guise.

He is simply a comedian. I don't take his advice seriously. If I did, I wouldn't play anything.

If you want reviews, read and watch proper reviews. If you want to have a chuckle, watch Yatzee.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

I highly doubt that he only played 2 hours... and even if he did, 2 hours is enough for a game to at least get started. And who really cares? Why would you take his reviews seriously? He tells what's wrong with a game and he's funny about it. It's really not that big of a deal and complaining about it will do absolutely nothing.

If it takes more than 5 hours for me to enjoy a game, then it's a crap game.

I will now point to Fallout 3 and say you are very very wrong.

I think you have misunderstood Sprite. They're saying that if it takes 5 hours for the game to "really get good" then it has failed to capture his/her interest and is therefore a crappy game. You seem to be thinking that they only want really short games. Fallout 3 manages to present an interesting story and all that within the first hour (if you dink around in the vault or with the character creation stuff).

 

[ultrachicken]

I think the fact that he was unwilling to play more than 2 hours of it is a sign that he wasn't going to like it.
But that's irrelevant, because he's there to be entertaining, not express well thought out opinions.

 

[Jandau]

I don't take him seriously, but on the other hand, ZP is what made him famous and put him on the map. The least he could do is play 5-10 hours of every game he reviews. This way it just feels like he doesn't give a damn anymore. Granted, the Monster Hunter review was one of the more funny ones recently, so at least there's that...

 

[RedFox042]

I've never watched his stuff for opinions on games, I watch them to chuckle. That happened, I'm not bothered.

I to think that he is quite humorous. but for actual decisions as to what I should try next? I have other sources for that.

 

[MorganL4]

Hi folks.

Instead of flooding the already flooded thread of Yatzee's review of Monster Hunter Tri, I decided to open up a thread.

Now, many people may have noticed the high post count on the thread. The reason for the high level of posts is because it is extremely obvious that Yaztee did not play past 2 hours (if that much) in the game.
People dislike this because he played a game called MONSTER HUNTER and didn't even talk about hunting monsters.

The amount of time he spent on Monster Hunter brought back memories of FFXIII, which he played for about 5 hours. Many would argue that 5 hours is more than enough time spent playing a game (to at least get a grasp of the mechanics and what the game is about), Yatzee didn't even grace Monster Hunter with 5 hours.


What do you guys think? Should Yatzee have spent more time playing? Do you feel like it is an insult to his fans?



EDIT: Also, this is not about whether or not he liked the game, it is about how much time he spent playing it. Does 2 hours really seem like enough time to you?

Ummmm dude.... I hate to break it to you we don't care about what he ACTUALLY thinks of the game.... its just that when he bashes a game its more humorous, case and point his portal review.... he liked that game and he told us so....and so the review was BORING... he learned that and so now he bashes EVERY game because it makes it FUNNY....and thats what he gets fans for....and they are who he gets paid for having.

 

[milskidasith]

Hi folks.

Instead of flooding the already flooded thread of Yatzee's review of Monster Hunter Tri, I decided to open up a thread.

Now, many people may have noticed the high post count on the thread. The reason for the high level of posts is because it is extremely obvious that Yaztee did not play past 2 hours (if that much) in the game.
People dislike this because he played a game called MONSTER HUNTER and didn't even talk about hunting monsters.

The amount of time he spent on Monster Hunter brought back memories of FFXIII, which he played for about 5 hours. Many would argue that 5 hours is more than enough time spent playing a game (to at least get a grasp of the mechanics and what the game is about), Yatzee didn't even grace Monster Hunter with 5 hours.


What do you guys think? Should Yatzee have spent more time playing? Do you feel like it is an insult to his fans?



EDIT: Also, this is not about whether or not he liked the game, it is about how much time he spent playing it. Does 2 hours really seem like enough time to you?

Ummmm dude.... I hate to break it to you we don't care about what he ACTUALLY thinks of the game.... its just that when he bashes a game its more humorous, case and point his portal review.... he liked that game and he told us so....and so the review was BORING... he learned that and so now he bashes EVERY game because it makes it FUNNY....and thats what he gets fans for....and they are who he gets paid for having.

And of course nobody cares if he has to show an absolute lack of integrity and spend half the review with filler material insulting Japan and the Wii, as long as its funny, right? We obviously can't ask him to both be honest and funny, right? It's one or the other, right?

I remember when he was funny and his criticisms were still relevant. Now he's less funny (though it may just be that the "Replace anything to do with enemies with their genitals" bit getting old; collect the enemies genitals, rip off their genitals, shoot them in the genitals, we get it, Yahtzee) and his criticisms seem to be stretching, plus every game from Japan guarantees more than half of the time will be spent bashing Japan and the Wii.

 

[Volcanus]

I honestly don´t see the point to all this whining. You can argue all you want about the validity of his review and entertainment style (to no end or point), but just remember how Yahtzee eloquently replied in the SSBB controversy:

"Why am I reminded of the all-purpose theist cop-out argument, 'God moves in mysterious ways'? Nintendo is a big boy now, he doesn't need defending. Small-time curmudgeons like me aren't going to reduce anyone who works there to tears and they care even less about you."

This is still true here, and I would to remind how Yahtzee stressed the "you" part and how he next went on to talk about "crusader"-like fervor and your mom...

 

[Withall]

I think people take Yahtzee far too seriously. He's here because he provides comedy, not because you should take all his reviews seriously and follow his every recommendation. If it's your favorite game or a game you really like, great! Don't pay attention to him and keep on enjoying your game. It's not like his opinion magically overshadows your own...

Aby Z. You win internet +1 for that one. Greetings, fellow enlightened!

 

[milskidasith]

Would people stop attacking the strawman of a bunch of people who hate Yahtzee's videos and can't take criticism? Nobody in this thread or the other thread actually said anything like that; the reason for the furor over this video was that he didn't play the game and acted like he did, not that we all hate Yahtzee for criticizing a game we liked.