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Jack Attack

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Not really classical, but Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue is one of my favourites

We play a great deal of classical stuff in my orchestra some of it is pretty neat - pictures at an exhibition/pirates of the caribbean etc
 

Rolling Thunder

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Beethovens 9th, 5th and 3rd, Mussorgky's 'Pictures at an exhibition' and 'The Great Gates of Kiev', Carloff's Carmina Burana, Wagner's Die Walkure, Prokofiev's Dance Of the Knights, Vedi's Four Seasons, and most things by Bach are good. Grieg's 'In the Hall of the Mountain King' is also an excellent piece.
 

Lazzi

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I enjoy classical musis to a point. Im not a huge fan, Im not a hater. Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue has to be a favorite on mine, im aware that its not exactly classicly music but its close enough for me.

But on the subject on enjoying music we must under stand that its completly subjective. The only thing that we coudl possibly use to judge it professionaly is that amoutn of "groove" any specific track has. Groove being the ability of a song to create urges in a human to move.
 

mshcherbatskaya

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I think in a few years, "Rhapsody in Blue" will be considered a classical piece, one of the first truly and distinctively American pieces in the classical repertoire. I love the new American operas that are coming out, "Streetcar Named Desire", "The Great Gatsby", with their jazz-inflected scores. If Janacek and Chopin can make classical music out of their particular national musical heritage, I think Gershwin and Ellington can too.
 

Zukhramm

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Personally, I Have gotten the impression that lots (not all!) classical music is boring. I am going to blame video games for that:

"This music is boring."
"But it's played by a full orchestra!"
"It's still..."
"FULL ORCHESTRA!!!"

Secondly, I'd like to say I dislike the use of the word "rap" as a genre, it's just a way to put forth lyrics, which could be used to any type of music.


Now, classical music, I don't know much so when I saw the thread I thought it was good to mention the one thing I've actually listened a bit to, but it was mentioned in the first post allready. Nothing wrong with saying it anyway: I really like Pictures at an Exhibition.
 

TMAN10112

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although i don't lisen to clasic music very often i do play it on my clarinet when i can find a group to play with.
 
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Mikav said:
It's funny how when people want to make their music sound great they compare it to how much they think rap sucks.

Has anyone else noticed this? I mean. "Sure Avril lavigne's 'Girlfriend' was a total rip of of... HEY LISTEN TO THAT CRAP IT'S RAP OMGF AT LEAST IT ISN'T THAT!"
I find it hilarious. People can like or dislike music, but why do they have to hate on them? It's ridiculous. They should feel ashamed of themselves.
 

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windfish said:
I'm going to respond to a lot of posts here, but I don't feel like sorting through and quoting everyone. Hope that's OK.

For the benefit of the board, I'd like to remind folk that "classical" (ie concert) music is not a thing of the past. And I'm not talking about FF soundtracks or movie soundtracks either - I'm talking about modern composers, writing music for the sake of music. Look up Kevin Puts, Steve Reich, John Adams, Nicholas Maw...etc. People are doing different sorts of things now, like not writing outside tonal system (which has been going on for a while now, since Stravinsky and before), but it's still there.

Also, it is unfair to lump all modern classical music into the "disharmonious" label. You may be thinking of 60's serialism. Nowadays, the compositional landscape is such that there is no real stigma - you can write anything, as long as it's your music. If people like it, good for you. Comparing common practice music to hip-hop and pop is a little unfair - there's hardly ever anything harmonically interesting going on in pop or hip-hop - they are written more so people can dance to them and be entertained. Most pop songs on the radio these days, and most days, use 3 chords. That's so if they ever, at one point in the song, use a different chord, it sounds exciting. Indie musicians tend to be a little more adventurous in the music they write, since they don't have multi-billion dollar labels telling them what to do. However, hip-hop still has quite a bit to offer rhythmically, and I can think of several modern composers who admit to drawing rhythmic influence from rap.

In general, modern composers of concert music are trying to do what every great composer throughout history has done - write something new. It's tricky, because so much excellent stuff has been done. Stravinsky was a revolutionary composer because he wrote in a pandiatonic system that his audience had never really heard before. Chopin mixed up traditional progressions using the iii chord as a lead to the dominant - something unique that makes his music sound definitively Chopin-esqe.

(Oh, and the Russian Five wouldn't be writing 2 chord country songs. That's silly. They're better than that. Not that the measure of a piece is determined by how many chords it uses, but there's value in being at least musically interesting.)

OK, sorry about that. You might ask, "goodness, WindFish, why are you such a prick?" Well, I'm a music composition major, working on a string quartet at the moment. Feel free to yell at me or something now.
You, sir (or ma'am), made my day. In the world of performance music (I use that term as a way to not call all of this sort of music 'classical'), My tastes go backwards to the chronology of time. 20th century contemporary is by far my favorite, followed by Romantic, then Classical, then Baroque.

You definitely offered some good suggestions, to which I will add Christopher Theofanidis, Phillip Glass, Paul Hindemith, and John Corigliano.

If you're feeling more adventurous (to the forum in general), not all serialist composers are bad! I'm a big fan of Alban Berg: Wozzeck is my favorite opera, and despite the harsh harmonic language, Arnold Schoenberg really had a great sense of musicality and pacing. Lutoslawski has some much more accessible works from his pre-serialist era, like Concerto for Orchestra.

And despite my love of modern music, Gustav Mahler (late romantic) never seems to fall from my number 1 spot. Warning: Mahler is long winded. His shortest symphony is over an hour. His longest is 1:40. Of Awesome.

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mshcherbatskaya said:
I love classical music from the Impressionists forward. 20th Century represent! Start with Debussy and roll clear on through to Glass and I'm a happy girl. I'm the reverse of most people who don't like anything written after 1863 or some such. Prokofiev is a particular favorite, Copeland, Gorecki. Stravinsky makes me want to hop all around the room. I need to check out Messiaen, too.
Yes! Listen to as much Messiaen as you can, the Turangalila Symphony is quite spectacular.

(Who would've thought there'd be a meeting of Classical music nerds here!)
 

UPS Express

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I really appreciate the influence classical music has had on all other genres of music and although I do not listen to it often, I think classical music is refreshing every now and again.
 

Nadsat

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I noticed a lot of posters on here posting their favourite classical music pieces as being somewhat bombastic. Beethoven's 9th, Holst's planet suites, and given enough time, I'm sure Richard Strauss's 'Also sprach Zarathustra' would come up eventually.
To all those interested primarily in this style of music, I must recommend:

Hungarian Dance No.5 - Brahms
Dies Irae - Verdi
Bolero - Ravel
Finlandia - Sibelius
Pretty much anything by George Zimmer
As an introduction

Also check out toccata and fugue by Bach. Also De la Soul, before you stereotype rap as a largely intellectually devoid, try listening to some of their stuff. Generally speaking any rap made between 1988 and 1994 tends to be good.
 

Zombie_King

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Beethoven's Fifth Symphony

First Movement

Honestly, I could be about ready to chop someone's face off, I listen to this, then I smile and pat them on the back.
 

Samirat

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mshcherbatskaya said:
I love classical music from the Impressionists forward. 20th Century represent! Start with Debussy and roll clear on through to Glass and I'm a happy girl. I'm the reverse of most people who don't like anything written after 1863 or some such. Prokofiev is a particular favorite, Copeland, Gorecki. Stravinsky makes me want to hop all around the room. I need to check out Messiaen, too.
I like Ravel (more than Debussy). I play a lot of Ravel.

If you want Messiaen, I reccommend Regard de l'Esprit de joie. It's an absolute ***** to play. The horizontal chords are a lot like Ravel's Scarbo, which is arguably technically the most difficult piano piece. However, the music itself is truly other worldly.
 

dekkarax

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I don't know whether it counts but

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first album that I ever heard I think.
 

Anarchemitis

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I recently downloaded Igor Stravinsky's Firebird and it is a great piece. Truly 'Firey'.
Link [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=H4S64H4HXTw]
 

BardSeed

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I wouldn't say I'm a fan of classical music, I couldn't name many composers other than the most obvious. I do enjoy the occasional piece of classical music however, this is coming from a metal head by the way, I don't care about genre, it's all about the way the music makes you feel.

In my opinion, the evolution of music is a delicate thing. If you take out just one genre or band, no matter how bad you think they are, it will dramatically changed the future of music. Imagine taking BB King's music out of existence, I don't know if Jimi Hendrix would have formed a band. If Jimi didn't make music, what about the countless other musicians that he inspired to pick up a guitar? Even though I detest the current RnB fad, I wouldn't want to remove it from existence. They may inspire someone to become a brilliant musician someday, maybe..
 

windfish

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UntrodTripod said:
I'm a classical musician. It's actually what I do. Seriously. In two years I'll have a shiny bachelor's degree from Oberlin, in four years I'll have a shiny master's degree from somewhere and in ten years I'll hopefully have an orchestra job.

I can't tell you guys how amazing it is that in this small segment of the population there are so many people who love classical music. As far as preferences go, I urge all of you to listen to everything you can get your grubby mitts on. I don't want to get into recommendation much, but in response to the couple of people who have talked about your love for emotional music, you'd probably enjoy Mahler a lot. And Bach.

You guys can ask me anything, though, if you want to know more about this stuff from someone who's devoted their life to it.
And in three I'll have a degree from Peabody. Nice to meet another music major!
 

Booze Zombie

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I love classical music but I can never remember the damn names for a single piece. Ever.
It is really quite annoying.
 

zen5887

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windfish said:
UntrodTripod said:
I'm a classical musician. It's actually what I do. Seriously. In two years I'll have a shiny bachelor's degree from Oberlin, in four years I'll have a shiny master's degree from somewhere and in ten years I'll hopefully have an orchestra job.

I can't tell you guys how amazing it is that in this small segment of the population there are so many people who love classical music. As far as preferences go, I urge all of you to listen to everything you can get your grubby mitts on. I don't want to get into recommendation much, but in response to the couple of people who have talked about your love for emotional music, you'd probably enjoy Mahler a lot. And Bach.

You guys can ask me anything, though, if you want to know more about this stuff from someone who's devoted their life to it.
And in three I'll have a degree from Peabody. Nice to meet another music major!
I'll have a bach of music in three years aswell =D

Uhh majoring in popular music and performance but still =P