Religious Extremist Ruining my School

[Esarai]

Well, I'll stick by my usual position on things of this matter:

1. In order to have freedom of religion we must first be free from religion.

Let me improve that:

In order to be free we must first be free from religion so we can choose our own.

2. This is one person attempting to force their factually unfounded opinions on a large group of people, which is presumably a public institution. Tell her to GTFO your school. Start an anti-'religious purification' movement or something. The way whackjobs like this win is when people who care stay silent. Fight the insanity that is so detrimental to the human race.

3. If you say that comics are a waste of time then you might as well be saying literature as a whole is a waste of time. Just because it was considered childish in the 50s-60s does not mean it is childish now. Case in point: Watchmen. Comics and manga can be incredibly serious and deal with very complex issues.

4. Occam's Razor - The simplest answer tends to be the right one. By that precept, God does not exist and therefore this person should be deemed as psychotic and given professional help.

Since there is no conclusive evidence either way, God can get out of rational discussions. The real question is whether the comics and games are "wasting souls." Since this has not been proven yet, I say your school just ignore her.

And for humanity's sake, why do religious people live by a book that advocates turning the other cheek and then turn face and run around not turning the other cheek?

If she wants to ban books because of references to the devil, can we remove the bible?

You are awesome.

 

[Christemo]

let me explain my opinion in 1 sentence: Fuck Religion.

 

[Timotei]

... guns were created by the devil or something.

I thought guns were made by good, honest, God-fearing, American patriots.

They were invented by Europeans.

Guns were originally created by the Chinese. It was the Europeans who mass-produced them and made them more widely available.

The chinese invented gunpowder and fireworks, Europeans used the gunpowder in a new way by inventing guns.

Truethe chinese invented gunpowder, but they also noticed that gunpowder, when ignited inside a close tube could send a projectile great distances. The only problem was that they had yet to perfect it as weapon. Soon Chinese "guns" made their way into Europe where the problems were ironed out and then produced on massive scales.

 

[chinese_democracy]

Just tell the school board you want to abolish any references to God or religious activities from the school because they oppose your atheistic beliefs. That'll shutterup.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Ignore the bint, and if any of her crazy rules do get instated [which seems highly unlikely], stage a protest of some sort and run a smear campaign in the local paper.

 

[Rhayn]

Christianity; the religion of tolerance and love for your fellow man.

Oh, we were talking about that christianity. *cough*

Anyway, it's not really clear from your post, but does this woman have any sort of power over what goes on in the school? If she doesn't, go talk to the principal. Unless he is in league with the woman, he should listen to reason. The womans claims are ridiculous to start with. Obviously your principal is not an idiot, considering he probably let you install Steam, not to mention instituted somekind of control system for playing too. Appeal to just that, say "If this has been working well until now, why should we start doing the exact opposite suddenly?". Even if the woman brings the principal to the court, he should be safe, since the control system is there and is (apparently) working.

If she, however, has some power there, I suggest starting to take names for the removal of this woman. But know this; you will also need valid arguments, just a post-it saying "We want X out of here" and then a list of 20-or-so names will not get you far. Set up a group, have a meeting, lay down arguments. Then ask students in your school to read these, and sign if they think it's a good idea.

Democracy works, mostly.

If, however, these changes still go trough, I suggest going to whoever is the head of schools in your city. I'm not sure about America, but at least in Finland, we students have say over everything that goes on in our school. If the principal goes through with the changes despite you have majority saying that you do not want these changes, he could be taken off his post. Again, I'm not sure how it is in America, though.

 

[crystalsnow]

You have the greatest highschool ever.

But yeah, like everyone else has said, either forget her and have her stupid spirit die down, or make a counter argument and have the school make her STFU.

Evil people will do Evil things, getting a good person to do Evil things, now that takes religion.

Nice quote XD

 

[Marcus Dubious]

Snip.

If she wants to ban books because of references to the devil, can we remove the bible?

To add to this, ask her to name one evil in your chosen media that isn't either commanded or perpetrated by god or Jesus in the bible.

 

[chronobreak]

She probably sees a bunch of loner kids dressed wacky and probably acting like weirdos reading the comics and she doesn't want her son to be like that, and is using God as an excuse. Believe me, if I could go back now as a parent and see some of the anime/comic heads, I probably wouldn't want my son hanging around with those people. They always had a penchant for acting stupid, dressing ridiculous, and trying to attract attention to themselves while at the same time claiming they don't care what people think of them. Now, this was just my school experience, and I'm sure yours may not be the same, but I doubt the issue here is one that is solely of God. The mother probably just doesn't understand, and you should reach out to her and maybe show her some of the comics she questions to prove they are not bad. Unless of course there are some graphic/violent comics in your library.

 

[lostclause]

Snip.

If she wants to ban books because of references to the devil, can we remove the bible?

To add to this, ask her to name one evil in your chosen media that isn't either suggested, commanded or perpetrated by god or Jesus in the bible

Gun violence?

 

[Cama Zots]

Why don't you just remind her that any time a woman is raped, by the law of the bible, she is obligated to marry him or be stoned to death.

 

[Marcus Dubious]

"gun violence"
Violence is in the bible, therefore guns are irrelevant.

That comment was a joke? surely.

 

[comadorcrack]

Ill Be honest. Religeon and School. Have no place togather. Because things like this happen. You're meant to enjoy yourself at this age. Don't let some faux ***** tell you what to do. You gotta fight for your right to party... OR so they say.

 

[riskroWe]

Don't negotiate or argue. People like this do not respond to logic.
You can either ignore her until she goes away, or MOLOTOV HER FUCKING HOUSE!!
o_0 \m/

 

[scotth266]

They always had a pension

Don't you mean penchant?



Anyway, this woman isn't RUINING YOUR SCHOOL unless the material in question has actually been removed. Until then, she's just expressing her views. And the school probably wouldn't accept those views anyway.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Go watch Religulous, pick up a few good points from that. Use said points to your advantage.

 

[lostclause]

"gun violence"
Violence is in the bible, therefore guns are irrelevant.

That comment was a joke? surely.

Yes, it was a joke. I find it quite amusing since, according to the OP, the lady mentioned guns specifically, as if there was no way to kill anyone prior to the invention of the musket.

 

[Marcus Dubious]

Don't negotiate or argue. People like this do not respond to logic.
You can either ignore her until she goes away, or MOLOTOV HER FUCKING HOUSE!!
o_0 \m/

Thats a silly argument, if you ignore these people their arguments can grow to a point where rationality becomes the minority view.

Always challenge irrationality, especially when based in dogma.

 

[chronobreak]

They always had a pension

Don't you mean penchant?

I did, and I can't believe I wrote that. I'm gonna correct it and go to bed, apparantly I need to recharge some neurons.