Respect

[VinnyKhan]

Respect does not come with age but with deeds i my self have witnessed, and besides i dont wear hats i wear bandanna's

 

[DemonicVixen]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were. On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors. Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

Well said, totally the best idea so far (then again i have not had the chance to read the rest yet).

 

[mangus]

It's only a fucking hat, Jeebus.

It's a matter of respect, not the hat sir.

no. It's a hat. you've blown it out of proportion. grats?

 

[ottenni]

While i am all for showing respect to your elders (and by that i mean old old people, not people who are 4 months older than you no mater what they think), but i can understand where you are coming from seeing as she seems to be showing you no respect whatsoever. And part of the reason i believe elders should be shown respect is because they usually have well and truly earn't it, especially where i'm from where nearly every one of then has built at least one house or survived the war or something (like my grandma who escaped from the soviet invasion of Germany on A BIKE, and my grandpa who escaped from a POW camp). But you do get the odd one who really is just head-up-ass rude. But just ignore them they aren't worth the effort of fighting with, just like trolls.

 

[Greasemoicockneypalm]

Who, exactly, were you (not I,) born for, then?

I was born because my parents wanted a child who would make them proud and be grateful for what they did for me, presumably.

Whereas you were obviously born because your parents really wanted another person on the earth having a good time and not giving a shit about the consequences.

idiot.

 

[gbemery]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were. On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors. Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

Thats horse shit. I respect my elders. But not because i think they're better than me. Simply because i tend to respect the wishes of everyone. Respect everyone until they give you cause not to. Elder or not.

I agree

 

[jboking]

[HEADING=2]Respect everyone until they give you a reason not to.[/HEADING]

Removing your hat in another persons house or when requested to, has long been a sign of respect. Respect the old woman until she gives you reason not to. If you have a legitimate reason to keep your hat on, fine.

 

[fletch_talon]

[HEADING=2]Respect everyone until they give you a reason not to.[/HEADING]

Removing your hat in another persons house or when requested to, has long been a sign of respect. Respect the old woman until she gives you reason not to. If you have a legitimate reason to keep your hat on, fine.

Common sense? In this thread? On these forums?
Did I accidentally click a link to bizzaro escapistmagazine.com cuz I coulda sworn everyone here was a self serving wanker who thinks the world revolves around them and that people should prove themselves (despite the individuals in question having their fair share of flaws).

Ok I'm exaggerating, but seriously I know I shouldn't be surprised that there are people who live by the motto "no respect until its earned" but I am disappointed by it.

 

[Sad Robot]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were. On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors. Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

This post is so ridiculous I'm not sure I should bother with a rebuttal.

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning,

As a linguistics student I'm not even going to bother addressing the "real meaning" argument here but who says those values have been forgotten? I certainly still understand and value the concepts. And I'm definitely not the only one.

The thing is, people have been making these complaints for as long as there has been human civilizations. So, either people suffer from delusional fits of nostalgia, or if every generation has really been worse than the previous one, by now we should be living in an every-man-for-himself wasteland completely void of any ideals. We're not.

and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were.

As a generalisation, this is, of course, untrue.

On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors.

Of course, the fact that corporal punishment is considered unnecessary and pointless by such organisations as the American Psychological Association doesn't really mean anything. They're just a bunch of experts on the matter, what would they know.

Also, while it's illegal where I come from, I have not yet noticed any significant decline in moral values in comparison to countries that still allow it. Of course, this is but an opinion.

Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Given that these reasons aren't relevant in modern society, it's hardly worth mentioning them in context. As a sign of common courtesy and general appreciation of tradition, it's as good a symbolic gesture as any, but nothing more.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

Like others have pointed out, being old means you've been lucky enough not to do. It has, in fact a lot more to do with luck than any kind of behaviour that wasn't an inherent part of one's survival instinct. Yes, some old people are really wise, but that's no argument on behalf of the generalisation.

Furthermore, I don't understand the argument that other people had it perceivably worse than we do so at the moment, so that makes them better people. What kind of logic does that follow?

And people still fight for the "greater good". If you're too blind to see that then I'm sorry.

Personally, I open doors for women and the elderly, give my seat to those who might need it more, ask if people need help in some small or trivial task etc. but I can't shake the nagging feeling that the way I behave isn't as much polite as it is sexist and ageist, even though most people seem to appreciate my behaviour.

 

[Superior Mind]

With old people it's best to just do what they suggest because if you don't it gives them something to gripe about. They're like fucking crabs, if they grab onto something that's pissing them off they won't let go.

 

[Amnestic]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers."

"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior and dress."

FECKING YOUNG PEOPLE! They've been bastards for the last two and a half millenia!

 

[Sad Robot]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers."

"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior and dress."

FECKING YOUNG PEOPLE! They've been bastards for the last two and a half millenia!

Touché. I couldn't bother with googling for those (and other) quotes myself.