Return Of Kings celebrate 'making The Force Awakens lose $4.2 mil'

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

double post

 

[The Jovian]

Yeah, tell me about it. My favorite article by them so far is this http://www.returnofkings.com/76238/3-ways-to-keep-your-woman-from-cheating

It's about as tactful and respectful of women as you can imagine.

(read the title)
I'm not reading that. No one should give these people clicks they are insane. even if it wasn't disrespectful towards woman it still spreads paranoia and distrusted to relationships. your significant other is not a dog that you should hit with a rolled up newspaper when you think they're doing something wrong

Wise choice my friend, because this article reads like it was written by an alien who got his idea on human sexual relationships from XBOX Live and Ayn Rand, it's THAT bad. But it gets even better because the author of the article Donovan Sharpe describes himself as, and I quote:

Donovan is a sexist son of a ***** who objectifies women by keeping them on their toes, their backs, and their knees where they belong. He contributes whenever time permits. Between columns, he can occasionally be found on Twitter.

And just because I hate my sanity I checked his Twitter and, yes he does live up to his own description.

And anyone who still defends this website in any way just needs to go over here (my SECOND favorite article) to be proven wrong: http://www.returnofkings.com/75203/why-homosexual-marriage-matters-for-straight-men

It is 50% hilariously stupid, 50% existentially horrifying and 100% indefensible by anyone with a soul.

ROK may not be a MRA website but it sucks all the same, it tries so desperately to give evidence for SJW conspiracies that it's completely pathetic. They're distorting facts, they're quote mining, they're making gross misinterpretations, all to push their agenda at the expense of reality, in other words no better than their enemies.

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Donovan is a sexist son of a ***** who objectifies women by keeping them on their toes, their backs, and their knees where they belong. He contributes whenever time permits. Between columns, he can occasionally be found on Twitter.

I just... WOW. fuck these people. I think I found the most disgusting people on the Internet. At least I can see the point MRA or SJW but these fucker can burn in hell all I care.

 

[Buckets]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

 

[Dizchu]

I have to say that the charge of Raye being a Mary Sue (at least partially) is something I agree with - but NOT because of the reasons RoK bring up. She did seem to 'get' the Force unrealistically quickly, not to mention how she was suddenly so good with a lightsabre. I don't, however, think of Finn as 'beta' or useless - he's just someone that left everything he's based his life on, and is flailing around trying to find something else - 'course he's gonna be useless compared to people who know what they're doing.

I'm pretty sure Finn will get his time to shine in the upcoming episodes, he seemed like the audience surrogate in this film.

As for Rey, I can see how she could be regarded as a Mary Sue but she doesn't really do anything in The Force Awakens that Luke Skywalker didn't do in A New Hope. Her being adept at engineering, scavenging and basic combat seems credible seeing as she's grown up on her own on a junkyard planet. The most unbelievable thing about her is how well she's maintained her physical appearance and hygiene (but hey, that's true for pretty much any movie).

Her Force abilities were at best on par with Luke's (who was able to single-handedly destroy the Death Star with it). And her lightsaber skills weren't amazing, but competent (and it was shown earlier that she was experienced with melee combat). Kylo Ren may seem like the "big boss" of the film, but he's really an inexperienced and conflicted semi-villain. Snoke and General Hux are far more malevolent and resourceful than he is.

Wait, doesn't MGTOW just mean you're not interested in entering a relationship?

I mean, I'm perfectly fine on my own; it'd be nice to have someone to go on dates with but I don't really have a desire to seek out intimate relationships. I don't think that means I hate women <_<

I wish that were the case, but MGTOWs go a few steps further by insisting that women are conspiring against men and exist only to steal their money in a divorce. I can see why a guy being screwed over by his ex would refrain from future relationships, but when they accuse all women of being one thing or another that's just madness. It's like with feminists, it's fine if you are hesitant around men because of past experiences but when you go on to insist that all men are terrible then as far as I'm concerned, you're the terrible one.

But yeah, MGTOWs are crazy conspiracy theorists. It's downright absurd, they sometimes go as far as to say that vaginas have mind-controlling properties.

 

[Squanchy]

When you consider Blu-Ray, digital sales, toys and all merchandising, this film alone in the trilogy will make billions. Even assuming ROK are not a bunch of lying bitches, $4.2 million is what Disney wipes their ass with. They bought Star wars from Lucas for about a thousand times that much, outright.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

MRA stands for men's rights activists. I think they recently rebranded to meninists though. They usually have good intentions, though they can be shortsighted, and usually resort to blaming feminists for their issues without looking at the larger picture.

The other major problem they (like their feminist brethren) have is that hooting dickholes, political extremists and deeply sexist shitheads keep hijacking their respective causes, usually to then detriment of meaningful dialogue with each other or legitimate bodies of law and government.

There's meaningful work to be done by such groups, men's mental and physical health is one area we need some great strides in. And pissants like this are gloating about taking a stand by not seeing Star Wars. Fuck these wankers.

 

[Squanchy]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

MRA stands for men's rights activists. I think they recently rebranded to meninists though. They usually have good intentions, though they can be shortsighted, and usually resort to blaming feminists for their issues without looking at the larger picture.

The other major problem they (like their feminist brethren) have is that hooting dickholes, political extremists and deeply sexist shitheads keep hijacking their respective causes, usually to then detriment of meaningful dialogue with each other or legitimate bodies of law and government.

There's meaningful work to be done by such groups, men's mental and physical health is one area we need some great strides in. And pissants like this are gloating about taking a stand by not seeing Star Wars. Fuck these wankers.

People's mental health needs work, and I don't trust or like people who try to separate issues like that by gender.

 

[Blinktv]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

It is short for Mens Right Activist. While on paper there is value to be had, these kinds of group are normally insane. Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

 

[Elfgore]

Ahhhhh, I recall the good 'ole days when I thought Return of Kings was a news/opinion site with a cool name.... Not a wretched hive of scum and villainy who are pretty much anti everything.

Just let the insane people enjoy their circlejerk about how awesome they are, attention only makes them stronger.

 

[Zontar]

Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

Isn't this like saying Marxists claim they hate Liberals, but they're a great example of what to expect?

 

[Squanchy]

Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

Isn't this like saying Marxists claim they hate Liberals, but they're a great example of what to expect?

No, it's like saying you don't take their analysis of themselves at face value. Critical Thinking 101

 

[MiskWisk]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

MRA stands for men's rights activists. I think they recently rebranded to meninists though. They usually have good intentions, though they can be shortsighted, and usually resort to blaming feminists for their issues without looking at the larger picture.

The other major problem they (like their feminist brethren) have is that hooting dickholes, political extremists and deeply sexist shitheads keep hijacking their respective causes, usually to then detriment of meaningful dialogue with each other or legitimate bodies of law and government.

There's meaningful work to be done by such groups, men's mental and physical health is one area we need some great strides in. And pissants like this are gloating about taking a stand by not seeing Star Wars. Fuck these wankers.

Honestly, by this point, I've come to the conclusion that if they are mentioned in the news as having said something, be it meaningful or not, they are likely the above. The ones who actually are providing that meaningful discourse and changes are actually out doing something, not courting the internet news machine.

Maybe you'll get a couple of groups that are genuinely helpful but they'll likely get mobbed by "well meaning" extremists who will either overshadow or bring the group down.

OT: Well there's your problem OP, you're treating RoK as rational human beings capable of logical thought.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

This will better help you understand why so many are opposed to MRA's:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/misogyny-sites

The truth is the Men's rights movement was formed not to promote men's rights, but to actually try to stop feminism. Instead of trying to help support shelters and abuse hotlines for men that were created and run by feminists volunteers, they actually tried to block them claiming they were trying to " vaginalize men" or some other ridiculous claim by trying to make it socially acceptable for men to talk openly about their feelings or discuss being raped.

Contrary to what they have promoted( what MRA's and other anti women groups have lied about), Feminists have been addressing men's issues:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/12/male-rape-epidemic/
http://www.feminist.com/resources/artspeech/mensvoices1.html
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/circumcision-is-feminist-issue/
http://www.feminist.org/911/resources_general.html
http://www.feministtherapy.org/domestic-abuse-family-violence-prevention-links/

So in summary, MRA's basically got their bad rep by lying about feminist, actively trying to block their efforts when it was the feminists organizations that were the ones who created, funded and were running the men's hotlines and shelters, instead of having the MRA's pitch in and help feminist volunteer and support the hotlines and shelters, they just complained about them instead.

Why anti women groups would be opposed to star wars is they had a female leading character, and some anti women groups oppose women being able to do that, and see it "as womenz taking over our stuffs" rather than society showing signs of equality.

 

[Blinktv]

Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

Isn't this like saying Marxists claim they hate Liberals, but they're a great example of what to expect?

Pretty much. One of the very first articles on their page is literally "10 things my dog taught me about women".

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

Isn't this like saying Marxists claim they hate Liberals, but they're a great example of what to expect?

Pretty much. One of the very first articles on their page is literally "10 things my dog taught me about women".

why do I feel like this site should call itself Poeslaw.com

 

[The Jovian]

why do I feel like this site should call itself Poeslaw.com

Believe me I want this website to be a huge parody of misogynistic behavior but I really doubt it's the case, if it were they would've tried to be a little more funny than this. Also if you scroll down to the comment section of their articles you'll see so much politically incorrect, anti-semitic and sometimes downright racist behavior (I think I saw a couple of N-words in there somewhere) that it's impossible to think of this website as anything but 100% serious about the things it's saying.

 

[remnant_phoenix]

How did they know it was 4.2, not 4.1 or 4.3?

And yeah, echoing Zontar, they openly state that they are not part of the MRM. They may look much the same to outsiders, and in many ways they were, but that's like saying Hitler and Stalin were the same.

(Before anyone says it, I don't expect Return of Kings to annex bits of Poland or anything, just using those two are examples of mutually hostile ideologies that seem similar)

At the same time, no reasonable person would earnestly say that Stalin wasn't a bad guy because he wasn't Hitler.

Whoops! There goes my opinion on Return of Kings!

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

why do I feel like this site should call itself Poeslaw.com

Believe me I want this website to be a huge parody of misogynistic behavior but I really doubt it's the case, if it were they would've tried to be a little more funny than this. Also if you scroll down to the comment section of their articles you'll see so much politically incorrect, anti-semitic and sometimes downright racist behavior (I think I saw a couple of N-words in there somewhere) that it's impossible to think of this website as anything but 100% serious about the things it's saying.

stop reading them you're giving them money with your clicks.