Generally speaking I hate people who are as far to the left or right as Limbaugh obviously is, but to this I say "Good show sir".
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I'm confused...
Isn't this a bad thing?
I mean, after all, Rush Limbaugh's support... Isn't that bad luck?
Isn't this a bad thing?
I mean, after all, Rush Limbaugh's support... Isn't that bad luck?
Oh certainly. The Daily Show is most definitely not a "good" news source, and I can't imagine very many people take it as such. I'm just commenting on the irony of saying you shouldn't watch a biased news source in the same breath as supporting the Daily Show.Delusibeta said:
Agreed. Far too many people end up just voting along party lines. We'd probably be better served to just eliminate the entire idea of political parties, but that's neither here nor there.Saltyk said:
And your also 100% right about Limbaugh. I guess this is what happens when the majority of popular media vilifies someone for years.
Rush is still an unsufferable douche, but at least he flashed some sign of not being a hypocrite about something.The Great JT said:
Let's see him do it again...
He's always been a man of intelligence, whether I agree with his extremism or not, I would never deny him that.
But now it comes to a point where we are apparently on common ground of agreement with him. Basically, I'm finding that most people here who seem to be finding a modest amount of respect in him today are only doing so due to the fact that his opinion suits our common goals.
While this certainly came as a shock, it probably won't add or take away any respect that I've already had for the man. I'll still respect him as the well-spoken, if not overly opinionated, right-wing floor man that he is.
But now it comes to a point where we are apparently on common ground of agreement with him. Basically, I'm finding that most people here who seem to be finding a modest amount of respect in him today are only doing so due to the fact that his opinion suits our common goals.
While this certainly came as a shock, it probably won't add or take away any respect that I've already had for the man. I'll still respect him as the well-spoken, if not overly opinionated, right-wing floor man that he is.
Not sure why you're trying so hard to find any and all folly in his words.Beastialman said:
That little comment you made really has nothing to do with your original problem with him, and seems to have the potential to go off on a whole other tangent of its own.
Very technically, they are. The basis for being "right wing" (that is, conservative) is a belief that the Constitution is an immutable, perfect document that should be read only in the context of what was meant when it was written. To that end, the constitution's first amendment (part of the bill of rights promised by the Federalists during the debate regarding ratification), pretty clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."Cid SilverWing said:
But, of course, what constitutes a theoretical conservative and what they are in reality are two entirely different things I suppose. Truth be told, both the modern american interpretation for a "left winger" and a "right winger" both approach the constitution as a document that ought to be interpreted in terms of some other period than when it was written. The difference is that a conservative in this case chooses to interpret based upon a fictional and idealized past where the liberal chooses to interpret based on an equally fictional and idealized present.
I'm familiar with the history of political views (er, as in I took a test on it once. So not that familiar), but anyway, the definition has changed. That doesn't make the old definition right and the new wrong one; words are defined entirely by consensus to begin with.Mimsofthedawg said:
That's what liberal means now in the US, and in general, "liberal" means someone who tends to favor government action. Conservative is someone who doesn't. Both American parties kind of flip-flop on economic and social matters, though; Democrats are conservative on social issues and liberal on economic ones, and vice-versa (in general, obviously).
To be fair, this was a spectrum described to me by an American source, and perhaps I misinterpreted it; are you saying that "liberal means x" because that was the original definition, or "liberal means x" because that's still the definition most of the world uses? The former, as I explained, isn't a valid argument; the latter is, if that is the case and you can substantiate it. If so, I'll gladly revise my arguments; it won't really change my central points, but it's certainly significant.
You just made me think of the upcoming election for Governor in my state... There is no one worth voting for. Of any political party. It's basically The Corrupt vs. The Idiot vs. The Unknown.Agayek said:
I'm also beginning to think we should all just vote against anyone with "(incumbent)" next to their name. I really hope we can get past these ridiculous divisions based on political affiliation. And debate things based on the actual facts. A few days ago, I saw a debate in a thread on this site where people literally were agreeing with each other, but kept arguing because they were of different political parties. It made me want to laugh and cry at the same time.
Bah. I've heard his radio show every now and again, and I think he's fine. I agree on some things and disagree with others, but he's certainly not insane.
It feels weird knowing we have his support. What are we doing that gains his respect?Zhukov said:
OT: Well, he said it well. I hate politics but it is a little comforting to know that there is someone on our side, even if he is insane.
I'm a moderate-leaning-right-ish and I think Rush is a little crazy for my tastes, but this has made me respect him a bit more. Huh. I never would've guessed that this would happen.
Hardy har har. It's not a left/right issue, it's a matter of common sense and the constitution, which unlike certain crazies on the television will have you think, both sides support equally. That is to say, they both take equally giant missteps.JWW said:
Rush is alright, I listen to him,I believe he makes sense but not enough to make me like being closer to the right-wing
