Rush Limbaugh (Oh, I hope this thread survives its 1st page)

[Jamanticus]

However I guaranty that if you mentioned that you like rush to a foreigner they would stop liking you quick, and if they didn't know who rush is point out that that means you supported bush, then they will ultra-hate you.

So.....By that logic, if President Obama's administration makes bad decisions, we ought to not support him as a president (and make it known, too), or else foreigners will hate us.

Hmm.

In any case, I have not listened to that much Limbaugh, so I have no well-formulated opinion on the guy.

 

[black lincon]

However I guaranty that if you mentioned that you like rush to a foreigner they would stop liking you quick, and if they didn't know who rush is point out that that means you supported bush, then they will ultra-hate you.

So.....By that logic, if President Obama's administration makes bad decisions, we ought to not support him as a president (and make it known, too), or else foreigners will hate us.

Hmm.

In any case, I have not listened to that much Limbaugh, so I have no well-formulated opinion on the guy.

I'm not a foreigner but I'm pretty sure they hated bush because of his policies and the Iraq war, not because he failed. But like I said I'm not a foreigner so don't take my word for it.

EDIT: I am a foreigner just not in the US, I realize how stupid that makes me sound.

 

[HomeAliveIn45]

Since I consider myself a man of the world, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Just Rush, the band.

Wait a minute! Are you saying you support a non-American band? This is just the kind of stuff that is ruining this country.
(Say it to yourself in a Limbaugh voice)

 

[Lord Beautiful]

(sigh) From now on, I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for some good discussion from escapist. I somehow doubt pigmonkey has ever sat through 3 hours of Rush's program with anything resembling an open mind. Ah well, I give up.

Oh, and pigmonkey, you forgot to mention his addiction to drugs. That's, like, the most obvious one when going after Rush. You fail at insults.

Listening to Rush Limbaugh with an open mind? That's a sort of oxymoron, isn't it?

No. In fact, not stopping to listen to him is much more close-minded than listening to him.

As for me, I share some of his economic views, though I'm much less conservative on social matters. He's a blowhard, yes, but he makes his points every now and again. I certainly prefer him to Michael Moore and Al Gore, among others, but I'd much rather listen to good ol' Penn or the delightfully crazy Glenn Beck.

 

[Ignignoct]

As for me, I share some of his economic views, though I'm much less conservative on social matters. He's a blowhard, yes, but he makes his points every now and again. I certainly prefer him to Michael Moore and Al Gore, among others, but I'd much rather listen to good ol' Penn or the delightfully crazy Glenn Beck.

"I want you to see my eyes when I'm talking to you, America."

And much love for Penn's "Bullshit".

Speaking of which...

*New Tab > Isohunt > Search "Bullshit" for new episodes*

 

[Jenkins]

the GOP is falling down, falling down, falling down, the GOP is falling down my fair country.


happy days

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Honestly, Rush is just irrelevant.

His technique is just basically pandering to the mindset and false assumptions of the conservative right (I did not say that the far right's mindset consists of only false assumptions, please don't read that. There are some good ideas there.). He never adds any nuance or insight to the debate and his perspective is fairly pedestrian on any topic.

It's very annoying to see Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, and Franken running rampantly with their abuse of logic always using fallacies to their favor. Yes, Colbert is guilty of building a shtick entirely around being a straw-man but he makes me laugh and I don't tune into the daily show for my political beliefs.

 

[Jerious1154]

The most incredible thing about Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly to me is the absurd amount of hypocrisy that they get away with. They spend 8 years tearing down Clinton at every opportunity, then the next 8 years ripping any Democrat who questioned anything that Bush does, and now they're jumping all over Obama.

 

[Superpuff]

where the fuck do you go starting something like this he like the worst person you could ever go to for fucking political veiws looking at everything a demoncrat does like they just started a fucking holocaust again i hate him

 

[space_oddity]

*snip*

Rush: "The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them"

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

I've got to ask, do all republicans really look up to this horrible walrus man? Do you like the fact that a radio host basically RUNS the GOP? Though as a Calgarian, having lived under the rule of King Ralph, who famously became mayor while working as a disc jockey for a Radio Station and then became premier of Alberta, his job probably isn't his worst quality, he is after all, a horrible walrus man.

 

[Avatar Roku]

(sigh) From now on, I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for some good discussion from escapist. I somehow doubt pigmonkey has ever sat through 3 hours of Rush's program with anything resembling an open mind. Ah well, I give up.

Oh, and pigmonkey, you forgot to mention his addiction to drugs. That's, like, the most obvious one when going after Rush. You fail at insults.

Dude, let me get this straight. First, you pick a controversial subject. Then, you acknowledge that you might be the only one defending Limbaugh. Then you insult those with different views. How does that make sense?

 

[Mr.Switchblade]

I listen to him like I listen to Bill O'Reilly.

I find tickling to see serious-faced arrogance at that level.

Oh, and I'm sure he was more credibility and command over the true heart of the conservative party than any senator/pundit/public figure.

I just wish Tom Leykis was as popular.

Oh, and INB4ThreadLock due to disagreeable content!

Sadly this mentality is what is causing the rest of the world to lose faith in Americans.

SUPER-DEFENSIVE RETORT GO-GO!

What mentality?

The fact that many people follow Rush as if it were a fact-driven update on the true condition of modern America?

I dare you to say anything bad about Tom Leykis. Dude is a saint!

AND FOREIGNERS LOVE ME DAMMIT!

Call down. Your a big boy now, if you really believed that much in what your saying you shouldn't be threatened when people question it.

 

[Ignignoct]

I listen to him like I listen to Bill O'Reilly.

I find tickling to see serious-faced arrogance at that level.

Oh, and I'm sure he was more credibility and command over the true heart of the conservative party than any senator/pundit/public figure.

I just wish Tom Leykis was as popular.

Oh, and INB4ThreadLock due to disagreeable content!

Sadly this mentality is what is causing the rest of the world to lose faith in Americans.

SUPER-DEFENSIVE RETORT GO-GO!

What mentality?

The fact that many people follow Rush as if it were a fact-driven update on the true condition of modern America?

I dare you to say anything bad about Tom Leykis. Dude is a saint!

AND FOREIGNERS LOVE ME DAMMIT!

Call down. Your a big boy now, if you really believed that much in what your saying you shouldn't be threatened when people question it.

Shoot, I really thought that by prefacing my post with a self-deprecating statement that I was acknowledging and indeed playing with the idea of being overly defensive and I wouldn't have to explain it to anyone.

Darn it.

Oh, and obligatory:

Call down. Your a big boy now, if you really believed that much in what your saying you shouldn't be threatened when people question it.

Your a big boy now, if you really believed that much in what your saying

Your a big boy now

Your a big

Your

That's right.

I'm down to the same level of pettiness, now.

 

[Pseudonym2]

The thing I love about Rush Limbaugh is the things he says are so wrong and anyone who publicly calls him on it gets death threats. He uses to have a few articles in my local paper. He was so inept statements would directly contradict one another about three paragraphs apart.

(these are all roughly paraphrases quotes)

"Paper isn't biodegradable but you know is? Styrofoam!"
"There is more native Americans alive today then when Columbus landed."
"There is more acres of forrest then when Columbus landed."
"Feminism is an excuse for ugly women to gain access to mainstream society" (He weighed about 300 pounds when he said this.)

I used to have a whole book of all the weird quotes he said.

 

[Cerebreus]

The most incredible thing about Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly to me is the absurd amount of hypocrisy that they get away with. They spend 8 years tearing down Clinton at every opportunity, then the next 8 years ripping any Democrat who questioned anything that Bush does, and now they're jumping all over Obama.

Well, they believe Bush did SOME of the things he did to protect the people.


---Starting the Iraq war was a goof, but once we were stuck in it, they wanted to see it at least end considerably well.

I don't think we should have gone into the Iraq War, but I believe just abandoning the people we invaded is wrong, along with wanting our troops to fail.

They may have criticized some people wrongly, but some people really seemed like they wanted the war to fail.

---They also believe that the way the Bush Administration dealt with detainees was in the defense of the American people. It may not be true, but they believe it.


So, they believe the Bush administration had some justification in what they did.


There are some things I don't agree with. I am uncomfortable of the idea of torturing people, even if it stops plots.


From what I see, they see some justification there. Barack Obama hasn't justified somne of his actions, though.


I think Fox News may be overreacting on some issues, but on others they make valid points. I'm upset at Barack Obama for breaking some of his promises. They were good promises, too. He hasn't given a reason to justify why he broke them.

After so much talk of change, I was disappointed some of it now appears to have been lies.

I do think Fox News should have been a bit more critical of Bush in some areas.

I'm disappointed by some Fox News' actions, but other things I trust them on.

Still, very few people and groups are not biased, so that leaves us to check the ploar opposites of a biased entity. We might get more information from both than from just one of them.

 

[Echo3Delta]

where the fuck do you go starting something like this he like the worst person you could ever go to for fucking political veiws looking at everything a demoncrat does like they just started a fucking holocaust again i hate him

I apologize for any psychological strain this thread may have caused. Superpuff here seems quite agitated, and I hope he knows I meant him no ill will. 0

Honestly, Rush is just irrelevant.

Millions of Americans tune into his radio show every single day. This year at the Conservative Political Action Conference in D.C., he was the biggest speaker and only scheduled to speak for 20 minutes. Nevertheless, his presence resulted in the most successful CPAC in its 20+ year history with over 7,000 mostly college-age attendees from across the country. I'd hesitate to call him irrelevant.

(sigh) From now on, I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for some good discussion from escapist. I somehow doubt pigmonkey has ever sat through 3 hours of Rush's program with anything resembling an open mind. Ah well, I give up.

Oh, and pigmonkey, you forgot to mention his addiction to drugs. That's, like, the most obvious one when going after Rush. You fail at insults.

Dude, let me get this straight. First, you pick a controversial subject. Then, you acknowledge that you might be the only one defending Limbaugh. Then you insult those with different views. How does that make sense?

I'm trying to set a tone here, orannis. I didn't start this discussion to see how many times I could read the words: fat, loudmouth, arrogant, nutjob, and oxycontin in a single thread. I want to hear some legitimate criticisms of Rush's message, in addition to the topics I laid out initially. Also, examine my subsequent posts to see that I do not insult people because their views are different (as pigmonkey did). I was simply showing the thread that that is not conducive to the kind of discussion I'd like to see.

 

[Anton P. Nym]

I'm trying to set a tone here, orannis. I didn't start this discussion to see how many times I could read the words: fat, loudmouth, arrogant, nutjob, and oxycontin in a single thread. I want to hear some legitimate criticisms of Rush's message, in addition to the topics I laid out initially. Also, examine my subsequent posts to see that I do not insult people because their views are different (as pigmonkey did). I was simply showing the thread that that is not conducive to the kind of discussion I'd like to see.

With respect, Rush's presentation and tactics are not conducive to the kind of discussion you'd like to see... as fat, loudmouth, arrogant, nutjob, and addict are all standard ammunition in his on-air arsenal. I compared him with Howard Stern for a reason... though between the two, I think Mr. Stern is the least damaging as he's too nihilistic to be the threat to real democratic debate that I see Mr. Limbaugh being.

-- Steve

 

[Echo3Delta]

I see a theme that I'd like to address, and that is this notion that Rush and his followers supported President Bush 100% no matter what. Additionally, people seem to think that the Republican party is taking its marching orders from Rush. This, my friends is false. Rush is not the leader of the Republican party; he is the leader of the conservative movement. For those of you non-conservatives out there, trust me; the Republican party is far from conservative right now and has been since ... well I'm only 22, so I honestly can't remember the last time the party was truly conservative.

Rush himself was and is a vocal critic of many of President Bush's policies. Among them are
- his failure to do anything about illegal immigrants
- his failure to push through Social Security reform
- his willingness to compromise on key issues such as environmental regulation and seek favor with the Democrats by promoting leftist legislation
- and above all, his ridiculous spending spree and growth of federal government.
A true conservative such as Rush and myself has many problems with the Bush Administration, so an attack on Bush is not an attack on Rush.

Finally, I think it would behoove many of you who haven't taken the time to listen to Rush, as Steve has, to check out his speech at CPAC. It is imo the best example of Rush's rhetoric and ideals. Here's the link to the first part (of 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjYeo6DZEzQ