Russia Banning Emo Culture?
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Whilst I do hate emos (which always struck me as goths with everything cool about goths removed), I think this is a bit silly.
Besides, what's the problem with a group of people you (and in this case the "you" is the Russian government, before anyone jumps to conclusions) don't like being suicidal, I thought that was problem solved.
Besides, what's the problem with a group of people you (and in this case the "you" is the Russian government, before anyone jumps to conclusions) don't like being suicidal, I thought that was problem solved.
Stop with the emo bashing, it's nasty and uncalled for and just plain ignorant.
So Russia are banning emos, normal people save for their own unique tastes in fashion and music and so on, but they still haven't ctacked down on the bloody neo-Nazis? That's just stupid. Why get rid of the innocent subgroup and let the evil one run riot? No wonder Russia get such a bad rap if they make stupid decisions like this...
So Russia are banning emos, normal people save for their own unique tastes in fashion and music and so on, but they still haven't ctacked down on the bloody neo-Nazis? That's just stupid. Why get rid of the innocent subgroup and let the evil one run riot? No wonder Russia get such a bad rap if they make stupid decisions like this...
The Soviet regime tried banning western-style music with electric guitars, so they could preserve traditional Russian music. Despite this, Ekaterinburg is still known as the epicentre of underground rock music. Just like Prohibition, where America became famous for gangsterism. If there is a ban, I doubt it will work.
With respect - and believe me, there's very little of that to be had in this thread by the looks of it - most of you seem to be happily chugging down a healthy pint of rather questionable hatred. "Yaha", you exclaim in the voice of a slightly unenthusiastic pirate ?They express an opinion which doesn?t fit to mine! How dare they possibly hate themselves and express an outlook which is anything but positive! They sit in a pit of depression finding pain a form of self-control/symbolism/emotional release and a very small proportion of those people may contemplate suicide. Let?s kill em?, laugh about it then go home and listen to music about degrading women/weapons/murder/?sticking it to the man?/rebellion or _possibly_ Al Stewart.
I hate to break it to you folks but joking about actually ending their lives because of their beliefs and appearance is actually kind of sickening, and this is coming from someone who managed to throw up a curious yellow liquid this morning on an empty stomach. Admittedly I?ll probably express extreme views about cultures, topics and individuals but y?know what; those things will have actually done something to harm or irritate me. Wanting to nail someone to a wall and hurl hedgehogs at them from a makeshift trebuchet because of their abusive attitudes, threats of physical violence or expressions of racism or discrimination is not only far more justified than hating a ?culture? which is if anything self destructive, but it?s also damn good fun and pretty impressive if you manage to accomplish it.
Secondarily we seem to be confusing these apparent cultures. Goth?s, if you?re aware of the basis of the culture are more or less nothing like this labelled Emo group. If you were to stand a genuine Goth, not one of the slightly pale people you may have seen around your campus, next to a genuine Emo, they?d look remarkably different, act remarkably different etcetera. They seem to be bundled together because they both have a tendency to wear black clothing and listen to music which lyrically is different and sounds _slightly_ similar, in much the same way that you can say Green Day is similar to the Dandy Warhols. Additionally the genuine nature of these people really has to be questioned; a great majority of the people you see who are labelled as Emo would be more accurately described as ?Weemo?s?, or ?Wannabe Emo?s?, and are frowned at far more by Emo?s than you, believe me. These ?true? Emo?s tend to listen to far older ?Emo? music before it became a big faggy fad, and can more or less look and dress like anything.
Additionally, please, please don?t bash anyone who could even possibly have clinical depression or happen to self-harm. It?s pathetic, cruel and obnoxious and should really be made a flayable offence. I wouldn?t expect you to understand, just as I realise that I couldn?t possibly understand that. But look at what you so hate, and what they?ve done to you, as a person. Whined a little, maybe have been a down more than your average peon, listened to music you might object to? oh, it must be so awful for you. The reporter who published the ?Black Parade? article must have been either clearly unaware that they were getting their leg pulled quite roughly by someone, or were simply exposed to a very small sub-group who believe this kind of thing. Considering that mass murder, the destruction of civilisations and countries, war crimes and torture have, and still are being carried out in the name of religion, I don?t think it?s overly shocking that some people kill and harm themselves because of what they believe. And Russia can do as it pleases; it?s a country with a government that?s far more openly manipulative of its people than capitalist states, which does far worse things in less obvious ways. Go those red?s?
I hate to break it to you folks but joking about actually ending their lives because of their beliefs and appearance is actually kind of sickening, and this is coming from someone who managed to throw up a curious yellow liquid this morning on an empty stomach. Admittedly I?ll probably express extreme views about cultures, topics and individuals but y?know what; those things will have actually done something to harm or irritate me. Wanting to nail someone to a wall and hurl hedgehogs at them from a makeshift trebuchet because of their abusive attitudes, threats of physical violence or expressions of racism or discrimination is not only far more justified than hating a ?culture? which is if anything self destructive, but it?s also damn good fun and pretty impressive if you manage to accomplish it.
Secondarily we seem to be confusing these apparent cultures. Goth?s, if you?re aware of the basis of the culture are more or less nothing like this labelled Emo group. If you were to stand a genuine Goth, not one of the slightly pale people you may have seen around your campus, next to a genuine Emo, they?d look remarkably different, act remarkably different etcetera. They seem to be bundled together because they both have a tendency to wear black clothing and listen to music which lyrically is different and sounds _slightly_ similar, in much the same way that you can say Green Day is similar to the Dandy Warhols. Additionally the genuine nature of these people really has to be questioned; a great majority of the people you see who are labelled as Emo would be more accurately described as ?Weemo?s?, or ?Wannabe Emo?s?, and are frowned at far more by Emo?s than you, believe me. These ?true? Emo?s tend to listen to far older ?Emo? music before it became a big faggy fad, and can more or less look and dress like anything.
Additionally, please, please don?t bash anyone who could even possibly have clinical depression or happen to self-harm. It?s pathetic, cruel and obnoxious and should really be made a flayable offence. I wouldn?t expect you to understand, just as I realise that I couldn?t possibly understand that. But look at what you so hate, and what they?ve done to you, as a person. Whined a little, maybe have been a down more than your average peon, listened to music you might object to? oh, it must be so awful for you. The reporter who published the ?Black Parade? article must have been either clearly unaware that they were getting their leg pulled quite roughly by someone, or were simply exposed to a very small sub-group who believe this kind of thing. Considering that mass murder, the destruction of civilisations and countries, war crimes and torture have, and still are being carried out in the name of religion, I don?t think it?s overly shocking that some people kill and harm themselves because of what they believe. And Russia can do as it pleases; it?s a country with a government that?s far more openly manipulative of its people than capitalist states, which does far worse things in less obvious ways. Go those red?s?
Agreed emo's annoy me *GENERALISATION* But the banning of free expression goes past annoyance and into rage. Also by banning the Emo's wouldn't you just give the whole rebel against a society card to play, you the one Rage Against the Machine held legitimately. Bymaking emo illegal you would probably make it more popular. It seems dumb that a government is trying to segregate and outlaw a fad that plays on the teen pre-disposition to feel segregated and outlawed by a society that "just don't undersatnd me" (said in a whiny voice with a hairstyle that will result in myopia just before storming off to the bedroom to play on a computer bought for them by people who really, *honestly don't understand)joystickjunki3 said:
Edit : in response to the previous articulate post most *emo's* these days are of the My Chemical Romance era, who don't provide solace from depression they play on the teen disposition towards it. Many many people in the lower years of my school as i was leaving it were slowing being convinced that being a teenager necessarily involved becoming depressed because the depressed "lets go on a black parade and celebrate everything being crap and bleak" was what the cool music and the older teens were doing. It wasn't providing a sympathetic ear, modern emo is another trend like the mysoganistic music you referd to that plays on common teen demographics and attempts to turn them into fashionable teen years.Xiaxis said:
P.s can we have more intelligent posts like the ones quote, mearly sich I HATE EMO'S LOLZ really isn't adding anyting to the debate..and neither is my spelling.
so are they just banning emotive hardcore punk music???
because thats all "emo" is. An insult by hardcore punks to people who listened to emotive hardcore punk!
because thats all "emo" is. An insult by hardcore punks to people who listened to emotive hardcore punk!
you do realise if they do manage to do this successfully they will most likely move on and try to ban other forms of sub culture
To be more specific Emo would be considered a sub-culture, much like Gamers, Metal Heads, etc.Robin_Lyon said:
I wouldn't say that the Islamic culture has been made taboo; more that people have become scared of it due to their lack of understanding and the spread of ignorance brought on by the media and other sources. I may be taking assumptions a bit to far with this next statement, but do we not generally hate and/or fear something because we do not understand it on a certain level?
That mysterious yellow liquid would be bile/stomach acid. Something that is flying quite liberally through this thread.Xiaxis said:
Those crazy Russians. They go from threatening the world with nuclear war to threatening Emos. So sad.
Hell, all they're doing is giving them exactly what they want, they want to be outcasts but they don't want to really feel left out of the group, so by making a law that makes them politically outcast, and they'll still be part of the group. Way to go and screw this problem up more than it needs to be.