Saint's Row 4: You are the president with superpowers and a dubstep gun

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lacktheknack

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Easton Dark said:
lacktheknack said:
And really, Why buy a game if it's more or less the same as the last one?
That's what sequels are.

Man, what if Mass Effect went from space drama to space comedy, starred in entirely by that one guy in Star wars


Wouldn't that be unsettling and irritating?
They continued a story arc throughout the games, and thus were "different".

Saints Row has always been "You start in a city with no/few followers, now go make a gang to rule the city".

If a new Mass Effect series came out that was literally a copy of Shepherd's story with a palette-swapped protagonist and crew, then I would find THAT to be unsettling and irritating.

If, however, Bioware made a comedy in the Mass Effect universe starring a Hanar or Elcor, I'd find that to be refreshing and amusing, because Shepherd's story is finished. For reference, see Tomb Raider. After being an "explore tombs, acquire items, attempt character development" series for years, they suddenly made a purely action-and-puzzle driven game (The Guardian of Light) with NO notable character development and a focus on co-op. People loved it. And now we have another deviation, where we play seventeen-year-old Lara with a different game focus, different play style and a huge focus on character development. People love this one, too.

People like change in sequels, you know.
 

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You know what? Sometimes I want to just sit back, relax, and hit a bunch of people with a dildo bat. Other times, I just want to explode people with my fist.

I love this new direction that Saints row has taken and will gladly go and buy the next game as long as it is as silly and fun as SR3. Also, invincibility may be OP but its god damn awesome.
 

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It looks like crap. What's the point of it all?

Just Cause 2 was wacky as hell but at least it didn't turn the crazy up to 11.

This is just hyperbole. Much like the literary device: too much of it destroys any attempt at wit and just makes something stupid.
 

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Abomination said:
It looks like crap. What's the point of it all?

Just Cause 2 was wacky as hell but at least it didn't turn the crazy up to 11.

This is just hyperbole. Much like the literary device: too much of it destroys any attempt at wit and just makes something stupid.
The point is to have lots of wacky fun. I know fun is subjective, but what is wrong with being stupid? Hell, I basically play sandbox games to be incredibly stupid. I wouldn't kill someone with a dildo in real life, and I don't have to. Plus real life has a very distinct lack of super powers.
 

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Racecarlock said:
Abomination said:
It looks like crap. What's the point of it all?

Just Cause 2 was wacky as hell but at least it didn't turn the crazy up to 11.

This is just hyperbole. Much like the literary device: too much of it destroys any attempt at wit and just makes something stupid.
The point is to have lots of wacky fun. I know fun is subjective, but what is wrong with being stupid? Hell, I basically play sandbox games to be incredibly stupid. I wouldn't kill someone with a dildo in real life, and I don't have to. Plus real life has a very distinct lack of super powers.
When everything you do is wacky then nothing you do is wacky.

I enjoy doing silly things just as much as the next person but when the entire idea is to do silly things and only silly things it gets a bit... silly. Essentially this is too much.
 

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Abomination said:
Racecarlock said:
Abomination said:
It looks like crap. What's the point of it all?

Just Cause 2 was wacky as hell but at least it didn't turn the crazy up to 11.

This is just hyperbole. Much like the literary device: too much of it destroys any attempt at wit and just makes something stupid.
The point is to have lots of wacky fun. I know fun is subjective, but what is wrong with being stupid? Hell, I basically play sandbox games to be incredibly stupid. I wouldn't kill someone with a dildo in real life, and I don't have to. Plus real life has a very distinct lack of super powers.
When everything you do is wacky then nothing you do is wacky.

I enjoy doing silly things just as much as the next person but when the entire idea is to do silly things and only silly things it gets a bit... silly. Essentially this is too much.
...for you.

I, among many others, want ALL THE STUPID. Again, if you don't want stupid, you can go for GTA or Just Cause. There's nothing wrong with variety.
 

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OT: I'm all over this. The climb from what was essentially a wacky GTA clone to this has been a ride i've thoroughly enjoyed and i'm planning to see it through. Personally i don't see what's so wrong about this, instead of just aping something popular (GTA) Saints Row has become something very unique and i for one will applaud a series that takes these kinds of leaps away from the mainstream (as much as i hate that word).
 

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I am afraid I am in agreement with the people who are not pleased with the direction the Saints Row franchise has taken, while the developer has every right to do as they please, I have every right to choose to stop buying their products. The Third felt like the silly side murdered the serious side and than tore the serious side?s corpse?s guts out in spite, on top of that was the hilariously awful DLC, which ranged from everything from blatant cashgrabs to ?meh? mission packs. - and of course selling you back features previously in the game. The story was worse, the gameplay was better but there was less to do, and the novelty of the wackiness wore off quickly when I realized how empty The Third was to me. Saints Row 4 does not look even remotely appealing, personally, and I don?t think I?ll give it a go beyond maybe watching a Let?s Play of it some time ? it?s my opinion that Saints Row has turned into the South Park of video games and I think that?s bad.

Also, Ulquiorra, getting needlessly confrontational isn't going to do you any favors - also your link fudged up.
 

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... as long as it doesn't use the same game engen and they give us a GOOD metal station (not that crap that left me listening to that station with that pepper song by butthole surfurs... seriosly, more Death and Mayham and less dubstep on the metal station, is that such an upsurd request?) then i'm sold
 

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Easton Dark said:
lacktheknack said:
And really, Why buy a game if it's more or less the same as the last one?
That's what sequels are.

Man, what if Mass Effect went from space drama to space comedy, starred in entirely by that one guy in Star wars


Wouldn't that be unsettling and irritating?
This is exactly what happened between SR2 and SR3 you realise?
Yes, it is both unsettling and irritating.
lacktheknack said:
Abomination said:
Racecarlock said:
Abomination said:
It looks like crap. What's the point of it all?

Just Cause 2 was wacky as hell but at least it didn't turn the crazy up to 11.

This is just hyperbole. Much like the literary device: too much of it destroys any attempt at wit and just makes something stupid.
The point is to have lots of wacky fun. I know fun is subjective, but what is wrong with being stupid? Hell, I basically play sandbox games to be incredibly stupid. I wouldn't kill someone with a dildo in real life, and I don't have to. Plus real life has a very distinct lack of super powers.
When everything you do is wacky then nothing you do is wacky.

I enjoy doing silly things just as much as the next person but when the entire idea is to do silly things and only silly things it gets a bit... silly. Essentially this is too much.
...for you.

I, among many others, want ALL THE STUPID. Again, if you don't want stupid, you can go for GTA or Just Cause. There's nothing wrong with variety.
No, you can't.
GTA and Just Cause don't offer certain features of Saint's Row that made it great. Co-op and customization.
Oh and yeah, GTA is dull as fuck and there no Just Cause 3 coming any time soon.

Saints Row 3 and this should just have been new IPs.
I miss Saints Row 2... It's years old, and me and my little group have done absolutely everything to death over the years. It needs a sequel, and this is not it.
 

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I understand why a lot of older Saint's Row fans are upset. From what I played of Saint's Row 2 (I barely got through the opening mission due to the truly dire PC port) it is like an entirely different game. It just doesn't bother me too much because Saint's Row: The Third is pretty much where I've started with the series and I really like OTT ridiculousness. It's why I like Manowar so much.

I get why it seems like a smack in the face, but I'm looking forward to it myself. Maybe it should have been a new IP, but I get the feeling that Volition wouldn't have been able to get the funding for that.
 

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ScrabbitRabbit said:
I understand why a lot of older Saint's Row fans are upset. From what I played of Saint's Row 2 (I barely got through the opening mission due to the truly dire PC port) it is like an entirely different game.
For me, its that SR3 in terms of gameplay had nothing unique to offer, it was all just the same over the shoulder (and cover based) shooting I was already sick of in every other AAA action game that is out there. SR2 was a lot more varied and felt more complete. That and the "CRAZY WACKINESS!!!" just felt overdone, it became Family Guy post cancellation, without any grounding and by just constantly throwing "WACKY!" stuff at the screen, it just became predictable and unbelievable.

Derailing Shaundi's character didn't help either.
 

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This is simultaneously good news and bad news. The good news it this looks fun, the bad news comes when you compare it to SR2

By this point I consider them different series

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Not every book has to be Ulysses not every game has to be Planescape
 

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This sounds like the best thing ever in the history of forever. SR3 was already hilarious but this just sounds outright ridiculous.
 

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Aiddon said:
Saints Row IV: Sticking it to Pretentiousness. It is getting GLORIOUSLY silly and thank Buddha for that.
The silliness is the reason I show up to Saint's Row games. I for one am hoping for something dinosaur related in addition to everything else.

The Boss vs. a T-Rex while riding a Triceratops. 'Twould be glorious.
 

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garjian said:
Easton Dark said:
lacktheknack said:
And really, Why buy a game if it's more or less the same as the last one?
That's what sequels are.

Man, what if Mass Effect went from space drama to space comedy, starred in entirely by that one guy in Star wars


Wouldn't that be unsettling and irritating?
This is exactly what happened between SR2 and SR3 you realise?
Yes, it is both unsettling and irritating.
Yes I do. That's why I pointed it out, because I didn't like the change.

I liked Saints Row 2 so much I finished it and did almost everything to do with the PC port on my old laptop. That's how fun I found it.

lacktheknack said:
If, however, Bioware made a comedy in the Mass Effect universe starring a Hanar or Elcor, I'd find that to be refreshing and amusing, because Shepherd's story is finished. For reference, see Tomb Raider. After being an "explore tombs, acquire items, attempt character development" series for years, they suddenly made a purely action-and-puzzle driven game (The Guardian of Light) with NO notable character development and a focus on co-op. People loved it. And now we have another deviation, where we play seventeen-year-old Lara with a different game focus, different play style and a huge focus on character development. People love this one, too.
But that comedy would have to be labeled as Mass Effect 3 or somesuch to be comparable. The first two games of the Mass Effect trilogy were the dark and character-driven pieces we know them for, but then the third one has all this slapstick humor and you beat people to death with a dildo made of whatever Shepard's new blade is while having a minigame where you ferry hookers across space while having conversations laden with innuendo.

Apparently people find SR3 funny though. I guess I don't enjoy the change because I can appreciate drama much easier than I can cornball comedy. Near the end of the Ronin story in SR2 in the graveyard is one of my favorite cutscenes.
 

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very disappointed we didn't get to keep our superpowers in saints row 3, so saints row 4 fixes that, i guess.

i'm buying it, saints row has always been a breath of fresh air from games that take themselves way, wayyyyyyyyyy too seriously.

it's a game, it should be a bit nuts.

self referencing the face changing tools in the last one was a stroke of genius if you ask me
it's the little things that count.