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Tiger Sora

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Aidinthel said:
I've heard that the term "Derp" is actually copyrighted by some company, and that's where the trouble is. Apparently the team never actually knew that people were offended until other people started telling them not to take the offended people seriously.

Oh good, a slightly less flame-baity pony thread to link the group in:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/MLP-Friendship-is-Magic
I recommend that anyone who joins turn chat notifications off when prompted as the group chat tends to be quite active.
http://www.legalzoom.com/intellectual-property-rights/copyrights/5-things-you-cant-copyright
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

According to these, names can not be copyrighted among other things in the United States. So if Hasbro wants to name a pony Derpy, they've every right to. You could trademark the word, which may be the problem. But you can only trademark a word if it's associated with a product or service. But since her name is "Derpy Hooves". I doubt theres any trademarked product or service named that.

Now of other countries copyright laws I'm not to sure of. But ya "Derp" isn't "Derpy Hooves". So legal jargon wise it doesn't seem like a problem, but obviously somewhere there is.
 

Knusper

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Sure it may have some connotations with mental disabilities to those who don't use it as lightly as others. However, her 'derpiness' just adds another level of cuteness which makes us love her more. No one's laughing at her but rather with her.
 

CrazyGirl17

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...I've never heard "Derpy" being used as ableist slang, I thought it meant something... silly. (Personally, I'm kinda for calling her "Ditzy Doo", but whatever.)

Stupid moral crusaders... stop trying to ruin things for everyone and let me watch my children's cartoon in peace!
 

lisalover1

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that probably no one was really offended by Derpy. When you think about it, it makes a lot more sense that this was the work of anti-MLP trolls. They've done it before, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was their doing again.
 

LittleJoeRambler

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I use the word "derp" in my daily language, as an expression of frustration whenever I make a mistake. I've also used "d'oh" and "Goddammit" in the same way.

People need to understand that words, especially ones with a relatively short life so far, do not possess inherent meanings. Without people to make them up and define them, words wouldn't even exist. "Derp" will take on whatever meaning we, as its users, give it.

Fun fact: the word "school" is derived from a Greek word meaning "leisure time spent pursuing knowledge." Last time I checked, school wasn't exactly leisurely, and rarely is it actually focused around pursuing knowledge.
 

FatalFox

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sadly no matter how harmless the joke, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE will get offended no matter what you do. I do not find the therm "derp" offensive, it's describing more of a clumsy person, it's when you have those "derp" moments, where you do something really clumsy, not making fun or referencing handicapped people.

So Keep Derpy Derpy! I have signed this petition for a good cause, either they'll keep it and piss off a couple of conservative moms (have not heard "helicopter mom" before) or change it and piss off hundreds of thousands of fans, fans that basically made the character from the small background pony.
FYI: I've seen a lot of mentally handicapped people supporting Derpy, not being offended at all, and saying they can decide what they are offended at themselves.

I hope they keep it, for the fans sake, a couple of overly sensitive moms hopefully can't change something like that, the little girls don't care, the bronies disagree with the complaints, mentally handicapped people are not offended, I don't see how changing Derpy's name and appearance is going anywhere.
 

Moontouched-Moogle

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Aidinthel said:
Moontouched-Moogle said:
If it bothers you, just assume that Rainbow Dash was using an insulting nickname (Basically a less offensive "Careful, dumbass.")

Also this shirt is amazingly relevant.
Problem with that is that it seems Hasbro is keeping the name, which means I'd have to imagine everyone being insulting to that pony, which is a whole other can of weirdness.

Also, that's a pretty nice shirt.
 

Aidinthel

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Moontouched-Moogle said:
Problem with that is that it seems Hasbro is keeping the name, which means I'd have to imagine everyone being insulting to that pony, which is a whole other can of weirdness.
That depends on how the character is used in the future. At the moment Dash is the only one who's called her by that name (or any name, for that matter). If she's never directly addressed again we can continue using whatever fanon we want.
 

Snoozer

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From what I heard was it a guy trolling, who adressed his "concern" about Derpy. There was also a petition with around 11k people telling Hasbro not to change Derpy a few days later.
There was something posted in the user group about that issue as well, also this:
I can't guarantee that the image is real, but I heard that they aren't going to change a thing from other sources as well.
 

DarthFennec

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It's not offensive at all. I have a problem with her voice (it's too deep), but I don't see how any of it's actually offensive ... especially since hundreds of other things on TV have a similar character and nobody ever complains about it ...
 

chadachada123

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The voice has started to grow on me a bit, but I definitely think that it should be redone with a more girly spin and with less obvious clumsiness.

That said, Derpy is tied for my favorite pony. Any other name just doesn't cut it.
 

Coldster

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This seems to be a similar situation to that one time where a parent was extremely offended by Portal 2 poking fun at orphans. Sure it wasn't exactly right to do so but the game developers obviously don't have a grudge against orphans or had any intention to hurt their feelings. It was just used as a joke, which is exactly what is happening here. Derpy is not at all an offensive name. I have an autistic brother who watches the show, when I asked him if he though it was offensive, he was baffled that I asked. "Of course not" he said, "why on Earth would be offended by THAT?". To top this all off, lets have Steve Hughes talking about being "offended":


^ That right there pretty much sums up my feelings for this.
 

Zhadramekel

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I heard on the bronies memebase that the accusation was that Derpy made it ok to laugh at disabled people. Derpy isn't a parody of someone with a disability, she's just clumsy.
 

Otaku World Order

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Loop Stricken said:
Aidinthel said:
Applejack said:
I know I never imagined her speaking that way.
Part of the problem is that the voice actress thought Derpy was male. Apparently she was mimicking a specific kid she used to know.
I just thought she sounded Canadian.

But yeah, this whole fiasco has taught me one thing at least; that the word ableist exists, and that I despise it, almost as much as I despise the word heteronormative.
Good sir, are you suggesting we Canadians speak in an odd sounding fashion? I do protest. I ask you to stop such slander post haste!

I'm kidding, of course. Honestly though, I'm never surprised by this kind of thing anymore. Any day now I expect someone to ***** about how Pinkie Pie is making fun of people with ADHD or something.

Assuming someone hasn't already done that.
 

Gnoekeos

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As an adult male who lacks the proper brain damage I'm not obsessed or even interested in my little pony but that one particular character was brought to my attention multiple times (That one and Doctor Hooves) by a deranged brony who won't leave me alone. From what he was telling me she was supposed to be called Ditzy-do or something. I don't know about offensive but Derpy is a pretty annoying word.