Scary Movies at an all time low

[Wade-DeadPool]

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

Thank you. Asina horror HAS all the old and good elements that other horror miss out on. The build up, intresting "monster", intresting people that you "Car" about. You get that.. "oh yeah *strange sound/thing on the tv* wtf was that ... Oh sh@! it's behind them.. AAAAAH WTF!!"

This one : http://www.asian-horror-movies.com/shutter.php
THAT is horror my friend. Pure horror.

I've heard about Shutter...do you know if they have it on netflix? Have you ever seen this J-Horror called Infection?

Uhmm.. The name rings a bell, but I can say for sure that i have seen it.
I did rent that movie years back, so i don't kow if they have it on netflix, but if they do, it is worth it

I got A Tale of Two Sisters lined up on my instant queue and I just watched Ichi the Killer, but is A Tale any good?

Hmm not seen that one, but I have heard good things about it

 

[Noatun]

The Asians certainly create a brand of horror that can be quite eerie indeed. A dear friend of mine recommended Gozu to me. Well, he actually warned me to stay as far away as humanly possible. Both the way they combine surrealism and disturbing scenes really bring out the Eraserhead-esque aspects back to horror. Tetsuou: The Iron Man, for example, is basically a Japanese film that worships Eraserhead.

There hasn't been a good american horror movie since The Birds. Look into French horror movies they are awesome, Martyrs and High Tension are 2 to get you started.

How can you ignore/forget about the masterpieces created by David Lynch?

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

Thank you. Asina horror HAS all the old and good elements that other horror miss out on. The build up, intresting "monster", intresting people that you "Car" about. You get that.. "oh yeah *strange sound/thing on the tv* wtf was that ... Oh sh@! it's behind them.. AAAAAH WTF!!"

This one : http://www.asian-horror-movies.com/shutter.php
THAT is horror my friend. Pure horror.

I've heard about Shutter...do you know if they have it on netflix? Have you ever seen this J-Horror called Infection?

Uhmm.. The name rings a bell, but I can say for sure that i have seen it.
I did rent that movie years back, so i don't kow if they have it on netflix, but if they do, it is worth it

I got A Tale of Two Sisters lined up on my instant queue and I just watched Ichi the Killer, but is A Tale any good?

Hmm not seen that one, but I have heard good things about it

Sad part is I'm actually too scared to watch an asian horror movie alone lol. I don't get scared easily, but for some reason they freak me right the fuck out.

 

[Red-Link]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

 

[silver wolf009]

This is why I keep a copy of the original ALIEN around at all times. It cant be beat in my opinion.

 

[Valksy]

Depends what you want in your scary movie.

Personally, I find gore and splatter a bit tedious these days. It's either prosthetics or CGI and knowing how it is done takes away the point of it. I'm not sure that kind of physical/body-based horror will ever work for me again. I mean for fuck's sake, The Human Centipede was on bloody television a few weeks ago and I was just bored.

Is splatter scary? Not really.

Most of the time I find that the things that you don't quite see are most frightening. Paranormal Activity 1 and 2 were coming closer to scary (while only making me jump) because they understood that what you can't see and begin to imagine is worse than anything that they could ever actually put on screen.

I found Paranormal Activity 2 especially interesting as I watched it on a laptop with headphones (on DVD) and was very aware of how they were trying to use sound to create a sense of unease. And it did work, I wasn't frightened per se but was very aware of feeling nervous and unsettled and I think it was due to the sound design (I know there was a very low frequency hum, yes it was meant to be the cameras, but it did produce a touch of anxiety in me, I liked it).

The idea of things you can't quite hear and things you can't quite see is fairly effective because when they SHOW you their monster/ghost/masked lunatic it is always a disappointment and never quite as bad as you had feared.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

I own Ringu and Rasen, but I haven't watched Rasen yet. Ringu was just pure awesome. And the acting was amazing. Even though the freaky moments were few and far in between, I wanted to know what would happen next. I'm trying to collect the entire Ringu series actually lol.

 

[Gentleman_Reptile]

I've actually worked on the set of a horror movie before. I've acted and been killed in a horror movie before ("Come and Get Me", released this April) so I think I'm justified when I say that yes, horror is lacking the creative edge.

But also, I've seen what goes on behind the scenes of making a horror movie and the mindset of the people involved. It looks IMMENSELY different from their point of view.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Depends what you want in your scary movie.

Personally, I find gore and splatter a bit tedious these days. It's either prosthetics or CGI and knowing how it is done takes away the point of it. I'm not sure that kind of physical/body-based horror will ever work for me again. I mean for fuck's sake, The Human Centipede was on bloody television a few weeks ago and I was just bored.

Is splatter scary? Not really.

Most of the time I find that the things that you don't quite see are most frightening. Paranormal Activity 1 and 2 were coming closer to scary (while only making me jump) because they understood that what you can't see and begin to imagine is worse than anything that they could ever actually put on screen.

I found Paranormal Activity 2 especially interesting as I watched it on a laptop with headphones (on DVD) and was very aware of how they were trying to use sound to create a sense of uneasy. And it did work, I wasn't frightened per se but was very aware of feeling nervous and unsettled and I think it was due to the sound design (I know there was a very low frequency hum, yes it was meant to be the cameras, but it did produce a touch of anxiety in me, I liked it).

The idea of things you can't quite hear and things you can't quite see is fairly effective because when they SHOW you their monster/ghost/masked lunatic it is always a disappointment and never quite as bad as you had feared.

I watched The Human Centipede because I heard it was one of the nastiest horror movies ever made. I thought to myself "This might be interesting." I was wrong...dead wrong. I despise that movie so much. I mean the idea was good, just executed poorly.

 

[VaudevillianVeteran]

It seems people only want to see gore, shock and splatter nowadays. I have no problem with it, it's just...not scary and a lot of the time stupid. Like The Human Centipede. Mindnumbingly stupid, plotless and didn't live up to it's hype.
And all the remakes of wonderful 80s horror movies, or worse, fantastic Asian horror that have deeper impact.
I think a part of me died when I saw the American remake of Pulse. But, in short: America's horror industry? Pathetic and dead and sucking from the bones of successful and over-milked horror series. U.K horror industry? Fairly good, actually. A few shining stars among the mix. Asia's horror industry? Booming. Russia's horror industry? ...Just...why?

 

[Red-Link]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

I own Ringu and Rasen, but I haven't watched Rasen yet. Ringu was just pure awesome. And the acting was amazing. Even though the freaky moments were few and far in between, I wanted to know what would happen next. I'm trying to collect the entire Ringu series actually lol.

At least in Region 1, they have a box-set. I don't know about other regions or which you're in, but keep an eye out. I love Ringu, and Hiroyuki Sanada is my favorite Japanese actor. Rasen is... different, going more for the expansion of story than scares, and it gets a bit heavy in the content department, mainly as a result of following the books which get really philosophical and metaphysical. Just a note Ringu 2 completely cuts off Rasen and attaches itself to the newly-vacated joint. Also, I recommend reading the books that the series is based off of, one word: fantastic.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

I own Ringu and Rasen, but I haven't watched Rasen yet. Ringu was just pure awesome. And the acting was amazing. Even though the freaky moments were few and far in between, I wanted to know what would happen next. I'm trying to collect the entire Ringu series actually lol.

At least in Region 1, they have a box-set. I don't know about other regions or which you're in, but keep an eye out. I love Ringu, and Hiroyuki Sanada is my favorite Japanese actor. Rasen is... different, going more for the expansion of story than scares, and it gets a bit heavy in the content department, mainly as a result of following the books which get really philosophical and metaphysical. Just a note Ringu 2 completely cuts off Rasen and attaches itself to the newly-vacated joint. Also, I recommend reading the books that the series is based off of, one word: fantastic.

You think I can find the books here in America? And I can't find Ringu 2 anywhere

 

[SovietX]

Remember Alien? Now that movie was scary.

Sadly, people think that if you have loads of gore, loads of visual filters and some bimbo as the lead character, you get a scary movie.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

You know, everything ever is at an all-time low since about twenty years after it first starts, and will be until the end of time.

That said, most popular horror movies are shit on a stick, so you just have to look for more obscure or Asian ones. Between Anime and the Audition, I'm completely terrified of Japan.

 

[Valksy]

I watched The Human Centipede because I heard it was one of the nastiest horror movies ever made. I thought to myself "This might be interesting." I was wrong...dead wrong. I despise that movie so much. I mean the idea was good, just executed poorly.

The whole thing seemed orientated to get shit-eating on screen (erm...Salo did that years ago, much more graphically). My buddies and I tuned in because it was meant to be "shocking" and we just ended up laughing at how ridiculous it was.

I have definitely, definitely seen worse.

And it was on TV - on the ScyFy channel in the UK. Checking against what we saw and what the "shocking" bits were supposed to be, as best we could tell it was uncut.

Am I jaded and de-sensitised? Erm. I suppose. But when cinema was new, people would run screaming from footage of a train appearing to come towards them. Then people wised up to what they were seeing, understood it a little more and were no longer scared. These days, thanks to extra features on DVDs etc, we know how gore effects are done, we understand more that what we see is faked and it has much less impact on us.

I personally think that gore can still be a little gross, but not actually scary. I still don't like splatter with eyes (eye-gasm in Hostel 1 was a bit of a squick, but I still wouldn't say I was scared. I'm not sure that "eeewwww, nasty" is the same as "arrgh! frightened!")

 

[Red-Link]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

I own Ringu and Rasen, but I haven't watched Rasen yet. Ringu was just pure awesome. And the acting was amazing. Even though the freaky moments were few and far in between, I wanted to know what would happen next. I'm trying to collect the entire Ringu series actually lol.

At least in Region 1, they have a box-set. I don't know about other regions or which you're in, but keep an eye out. I love Ringu, and Hiroyuki Sanada is my favorite Japanese actor. Rasen is... different, going more for the expansion of story than scares, and it gets a bit heavy in the content department, mainly as a result of following the books which get really philosophical and metaphysical. Just a note Ringu 2 completely cuts off Rasen and attaches itself to the newly-vacated joint. Also, I recommend reading the books that the series is based off of, one word: fantastic.

You think I can find the books here in America? And I can't find Ringu 2 anywhere

The joys of Amazon. I live in the US, and I have all three books. Worse comes to worst, you should be able to get your local Barnes & Noble, or Borders (assuming any near you are still in business, a shame, that one), to order them for in-store pick-up. As for the movies, the Ringu Anthology is out there, but you may have to do some hunting. Also, if you want special features, you're out of luck, Region 1 gets the films and done.

 

[RamirezDoEverything]

You might check out the Marble Hornets videos on youtube. I wouldn't call it scary per se, but for a month after watching I was pacing the house at night, checking the doors and windows to make sure they were locked, and only sleeping after dawn had come and I had taken the dog and a loaded gun out around the property to make sure nothing was a amiss. Nothing I have seen in the last decade has managed to instill that sense of paranoia.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MarbleHornets#p/u/38/Wmhfn3mgWUI

I was just watching this the other night! I agree, it scares the piss out of you

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Yeah horror movies aren't what they used to be. I have the same feelings as you for PA, I saw it in theaters and at the end I was like "What the hell did I just watch?" Hell even I could've made that same exact movie. The most recent American horror movie I enjoyed was Dead Silence, of course it wasn't the best horror movie ever, but it had some pretty creepy parts.

The guy above me is right, asian horror is the best. I just watched Audition the other day, damn...that was intense.

See, I love Asian horror, but I don't find it to be scary at all, just good. Audition wasn't scary, though intense is definitely a good word to use for it.

And I really liked PA, mainly because it followed several of the premises set up by Asian and horror: focus on the character's relationships relative to the events, don't show much, give false leads (be it in dialogue or music) so that you don't know if a build-up is going to give you something (I find this to be the most important, if every build-up leads to a payoff, you expect one, if they don't you can't properly prepare). As for "I could've made that exact same movie," yeah, anyone could have, it was a really simple film, but no one else did. It's nice to see someone playing around with the genre and trying things out, even if looking back on it, it looks really simple and obvious.

I don't mind slow movies, but all that movie was was two people arguing and a sheet moving and a door closing. The only good thing about that movie was that girl had really, really awesome boobs.

Haha, I won't disagree with you on the last point. But when you look at a lot of Asian horror films, it's pretty similar. Have you seen Ringu? It's fantastic, but it's almost completely devoid of anything. Granted, it's like two hours of Hiroyuki Sanada, so that's great, but still. The whole point is to keep the creepy stuff to a minimum because, up to a certain amount of antics, people can say to themselves, "What if?" If a movie has a demon constantly tormenting a couple and showing up in person, people would scoff at it. When it does a little here or a little there, people can think of the weird small things they see out of the corner of their eyes and wonder.

I own Ringu and Rasen, but I haven't watched Rasen yet. Ringu was just pure awesome. And the acting was amazing. Even though the freaky moments were few and far in between, I wanted to know what would happen next. I'm trying to collect the entire Ringu series actually lol.

At least in Region 1, they have a box-set. I don't know about other regions or which you're in, but keep an eye out. I love Ringu, and Hiroyuki Sanada is my favorite Japanese actor. Rasen is... different, going more for the expansion of story than scares, and it gets a bit heavy in the content department, mainly as a result of following the books which get really philosophical and metaphysical. Just a note Ringu 2 completely cuts off Rasen and attaches itself to the newly-vacated joint. Also, I recommend reading the books that the series is based off of, one word: fantastic.

You think I can find the books here in America? And I can't find Ringu 2 anywhere

The joys of Amazon. I live in the US, and I have all three books. Worse comes to worst, you should be able to get your local Barnes & Noble, or Borders (assuming any near you are still in business, a shame, that one), to order them for in-store pick-up. As for the movies, the Ringu Anthology is out there, but you may have to do some hunting. Also, if you want special features, you're out of luck, Region 1 gets the films and done.

Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.

 

[Red-Link]

Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.

Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.