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You don't see much else but slasher movies being released in western audiences, even then there is the occasional breath of fresh air. I find it surprising that nobody has mentioned Black Swan.
The genre isn't given any respect, nor the budget, it's tossed around as something without any value. The people behind the production of most "horror" films seem to be completely delusional and out of touch. They don't produce anything of value, just frighteningly sadistic shadows of a real work of value. They base these films on what they think the public wants. They're out of touch.
Again, serious horror isn't given any respect. If I remember correctly, Del Toro's Lovecraft adaption died due to lack of funding.
 

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Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
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Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
 

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Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
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Kenbo Slice said:
Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
I'm pretty sure if that movie ever gets released here, it'll make bank. I know there's a high demand for it.
 

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Mr Somewhere said:
You don't see much else but slasher movies being released in western audiences, even then there is the occasional breath of fresh air. I find it surprising that nobody has mentioned Black Swan.
The genre isn't given any respect, nor the budget, it's tossed around as something without any value. The people behind the production of most "horror" films seem to be completely delusional and out of touch. They don't produce anything of value, just frighteningly sadistic shadows of a real work of value. They base these films on what they think the public wants. They're out of touch.
Again, serious horror isn't given any respect. If I remember correctly, Del Toro's Lovecraft adaption died due to lack of funding.
I loved Black Swan. It was probably the scariest film I've seen in a while. As for the "delusional and out of touch" people behind the films, unfortunately, they're the most in touch in the industry. You can make bank off a really cheap horror film with a bunch of nobodys. Who wants to cough up the money for innovation when a tried and true method of dull mediocrity gives such a good payoff?
 

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i watched 8 legged freaks the other day.

Im very afraid of spiders extremely afraid like too the point if there was a spider boss in a game i wouldn't beat the game.

But i didn't get scared not once and i was like 'wow these are horror movies?'

Anime horror is pretty good though.

on a unrelated sort would you say Elfen lied was a Horror?
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
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Kenbo Slice said:
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Kenbo Slice said:
Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
I'm pretty sure if that movie ever gets released here, it'll make bank. I know there's a high demand for it.
Yeah, but if a big studio buys it, they'll chop it to bits to appease the censors, and a small studio can't afford it, not to mention Toei wants to retain some weird rights on it (I forget the specifics, though). The funny part is, by today's standards, it's pretty tame, but studios are still afraid to touch it.

Because we've been having a long conversation that's only tangentially related to the topic at this point, I have just one thing to say to tie horror and over-the-top violence together: Suicide Club. Thank you, that is all.
 

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i watched 8 legged freaks the other day.

Im very afraid of spiders extremely afraid like too the point if there was a spider boss in a game i wouldn't beat the game.

But i didn't get scared not once and i was like 'wow these are horror movies?'

Anime horror is pretty good though.

on a unrelated sort would you say Elfen lied was a Horror?
Freaks is considered a horror comedy, though. I haven't seen it, so I can't comment on it's quality as such, but I thought I'd mention that. Can you recommend some anime horror. I like what I've seen, but it's not much. I'd quite like to get my hands on some more.
 

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You don't see much else but slasher movies being released in western audiences, even then there is the occasional breath of fresh air. I find it surprising that nobody has mentioned Black Swan.
The genre isn't given any respect, nor the budget, it's tossed around as something without any value. The people behind the production of most "horror" films seem to be completely delusional and out of touch. They don't produce anything of value, just frighteningly sadistic shadows of a real work of value. They base these films on what they think the public wants. They're out of touch.
Again, serious horror isn't given any respect. If I remember correctly, Del Toro's Lovecraft adaption died due to lack of funding.
I loved Black Swan. It was probably the scariest film I've seen in a while. As for the "delusional and out of touch" people behind the films, unfortunately, they're the most in touch in the industry. You can make bank off a really cheap horror film with a bunch of nobodys. Who wants to cough up the money for innovation when a tried and true method of dull mediocrity gives such a good payoff?
Are those films even making any money? I think they should seriously reconsider it. As far as I recall the last few "big" horror releases did little in the box offices. While Black Swan did quite well... Maybe that'll lead on to another few good releases. One can dream anyway...
 

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Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
I'm pretty sure if that movie ever gets released here, it'll make bank. I know there's a high demand for it.
Yeah, but if a big studio buys it, they'll chop it to bits to appease the censors, and a small studio can't afford it, not to mention Toei wants to retain some weird rights on it (I forget the specifics, though). The funny part is, by today's standards, it's pretty tame, but studios are still afraid to touch it.

Because we've been having a long conversation that's only tangentially related to the topic at this point, I have just one thing to say to tie horror and over-the-top violence together: Suicide Club. Thank you, that is all.
Let's get a bunch of people to pitch in money so we can start our own company...only buy Battle Royale! I'm surprised, I know a few big people in Hollywood like the movie too. Weird.

I've been wanting to see Suicide Club sooooo bad since I heard of it. I want it! I want it! I want it!
 

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I think its because of how long horror films been around
like...
we know whats going to happen because we seen it to much
 

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Mr Somewhere said:
Red-Link said:
Mr Somewhere said:
You don't see much else but slasher movies being released in western audiences, even then there is the occasional breath of fresh air. I find it surprising that nobody has mentioned Black Swan.
The genre isn't given any respect, nor the budget, it's tossed around as something without any value. The people behind the production of most "horror" films seem to be completely delusional and out of touch. They don't produce anything of value, just frighteningly sadistic shadows of a real work of value. They base these films on what they think the public wants. They're out of touch.
Again, serious horror isn't given any respect. If I remember correctly, Del Toro's Lovecraft adaption died due to lack of funding.
I loved Black Swan. It was probably the scariest film I've seen in a while. As for the "delusional and out of touch" people behind the films, unfortunately, they're the most in touch in the industry. You can make bank off a really cheap horror film with a bunch of nobodys. Who wants to cough up the money for innovation when a tried and true method of dull mediocrity gives such a good payoff?
Are those films even making any money? I think they should seriously reconsider it. As far as I recall the last few "big" horror releases did little in the box offices. While Black Swan did quite well... Maybe that'll lead on to another few good releases. One can dream anyway...
DVDs and rentals are really strong for that type of film, not mention licensing for television use. One other note people should realize: because those are so easy to make, they make a great learning film for cast and crew. It's when that's somebody's whole career that it's an issue.
 

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Masterninjaz12 said:
BOO!!! Snip
A good horror movie I've seen was: Pontypool.

It's a Canadian zombie movie. REALLY tense film, and I highly recommend it.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
I'm pretty sure if that movie ever gets released here, it'll make bank. I know there's a high demand for it.
Yeah, but if a big studio buys it, they'll chop it to bits to appease the censors, and a small studio can't afford it, not to mention Toei wants to retain some weird rights on it (I forget the specifics, though). The funny part is, by today's standards, it's pretty tame, but studios are still afraid to touch it.

Because we've been having a long conversation that's only tangentially related to the topic at this point, I have just one thing to say to tie horror and over-the-top violence together: Suicide Club. Thank you, that is all.
Let's get a bunch of people to pitch in money so we can start our own company...only buy Battle Royale! I'm surprised, I know a few big people in Hollywood like the movie too. Weird.

I've been wanting to see Suicide Club sooooo bad since I heard of it. I want it! I want it! I want it!
Off to Kickstarter! I think that would actually be a pretty good idea. And yeah, Suicide Club is awesome, if a bit random and confusing at points.
 

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I found Requiem for a Dream much more scary than anything that I've ever seen in the "horror" genre.
 

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silver wolf009 said:
This is why I keep a copy of the original ALIEN around at all times. It cant be beat in my opinion.
I totally agree.

It's true that horror has taken a huge nosedive in recent years however there have been some films which were definitely worth a watch. Pandorum springs to mind for example.

Like alot of things now though, everything has to be shown or dumb down for audiences no longer is the audience meant to use their imagination and so because of this alot of films aren't as scary as the ones which showed you very little and let your mind scare the shit out of you.

Also I loved Drag Me To Hell, Raimi's comedy horror was a real treat to see again.
 

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Red-Link said:
Mr Somewhere said:
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Mr Somewhere said:
You don't see much else but slasher movies being released in western audiences, even then there is the occasional breath of fresh air. I find it surprising that nobody has mentioned Black Swan.
The genre isn't given any respect, nor the budget, it's tossed around as something without any value. The people behind the production of most "horror" films seem to be completely delusional and out of touch. They don't produce anything of value, just frighteningly sadistic shadows of a real work of value. They base these films on what they think the public wants. They're out of touch.
Again, serious horror isn't given any respect. If I remember correctly, Del Toro's Lovecraft adaption died due to lack of funding.
I loved Black Swan. It was probably the scariest film I've seen in a while. As for the "delusional and out of touch" people behind the films, unfortunately, they're the most in touch in the industry. You can make bank off a really cheap horror film with a bunch of nobodys. Who wants to cough up the money for innovation when a tried and true method of dull mediocrity gives such a good payoff?
Are those films even making any money? I think they should seriously reconsider it. As far as I recall the last few "big" horror releases did little in the box offices. While Black Swan did quite well... Maybe that'll lead on to another few good releases. One can dream anyway...
DVDs and rentals are really strong for that type of film, not mention licensing for television use. One other note people should realize: because those are so easy to make, they make a great learning film for cast and crew. It's when that's somebody's whole career that it's an issue.
Ah, I hadn't realised that, good point. Though, I'd still like to continue to clutch straws and hope Black Swan has done some good for the genre. There's also the chance we could see some great change. The whole Hollywood system is growing rather stagnant, fewer seem to be tolerating the usual mess they put out. Again, one can dream.
 

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Red-Link said:
Kenbo Slice said:
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Kenbo Slice said:
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Kenbo Slice said:
Eh I could care less about special features, I just wanna watch the damn movie! I'll have to add those things to my list of things to get eventually. Plus I've ran out of books to read, so I should get those books as soon as I can.
Pick up Battle Royale while you're at it. One of my top three favorite books of all time.
I saw half of that movie, I regret not watching the other half. Movie was fucking amazing.
Hell yeah it is, and the book is at least 20x better, now if only Toei could drop their damned asking price so a studio with balls will license it for a DVD in our region.
I'm pretty sure if that movie ever gets released here, it'll make bank. I know there's a high demand for it.
Yeah, but if a big studio buys it, they'll chop it to bits to appease the censors, and a small studio can't afford it, not to mention Toei wants to retain some weird rights on it (I forget the specifics, though). The funny part is, by today's standards, it's pretty tame, but studios are still afraid to touch it.

Because we've been having a long conversation that's only tangentially related to the topic at this point, I have just one thing to say to tie horror and over-the-top violence together: Suicide Club. Thank you, that is all.
Let's get a bunch of people to pitch in money so we can start our own company...only buy Battle Royale! I'm surprised, I know a few big people in Hollywood like the movie too. Weird.

I've been wanting to see Suicide Club sooooo bad since I heard of it. I want it! I want it! I want it!
Off to Kickstarter! I think that would actually be a pretty good idea. And yeah, Suicide Club is awesome, if a bit random and confusing at points.
I really wish it would get released in America sometime soon, that would be awesome. DAMN YOU MOVIE STUDIOS!!! I've been wanting to watch Gozu and Tetsuo The Iron Man, are they any good? I just watched Oldboy like a week ago, it's not really horror, but it's pretty fucking intense.
 

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silver wolf009 said:
This is why I keep a copy of the original ALIEN around at all times. It cant be beat in my opinion.
This is all that needs to be said on the matter in my opinion.
 

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No good zombie movie has EVER been made. >=[
Please prove me wrong, and link a good one. I like realistic ones, not the standard loose every soldier in the first 20 min and all that stupid shit. I swear it's like people want to commit zombie assisted suicide in thoes movies.