Serial Killer Round 66: Cadaver Cavern- Cycle 2- Killer Executed!

[Dying_Jester]

Oh lordy, this has become incredibly tense. It feels like I've missed entire days when it's only been less then twenty-four hours since I last looked in here.

It's like we're all sitting in a circle, fancy suits on, debating in cold, calm voices.
...Well..some of us are. I'm sitting in the circle holding my silence as if sorting through the information when really my mind is just plain blank.


Anyways, I also cast my vote shortly after the announcement of who died went out, reason being that it seems that normally on round 1, everything is just to up in the air there is no reason to worry about any sort of evidence or logical theories rising up just yet.

Now, being that so much has happened so fast...we have just had the one death so far, yes?

 

[Fat Hippo]

Oh lordy, this has become incredibly tense. It feels like I've missed entire days when it's only been less then twenty-four hours since I last looked in here.

It's like we're all sitting in a circle, fancy suits on, debating in cold, calm voices.
...Well..some of us are. I'm sitting in the circle holding my silence as if sorting through the information when really my mind is just plain blank.


Anyways, I also cast my vote shortly after the announcement of who died went out, reason being that it seems that normally on round 1, everything is just to up in the air there is no reason to worry about any sort of evidence or logical theories rising up just yet.

Now, being that so much has happened so fast...we have just had the one death so far, yes?

Yep, just the opening murder of Snekadid aka Mr. Kittie. Now we're voting on our first execution which has been...interesting, to say the least.

 

[Aerosteam]

So there is the doubt in your timeline evidence.

It was faster because that's two people talking between each other and I'm quite an active poster. I'm saying the role reshuffle within the 30 minutes is a crock of shit because:

1. You have to believe there was a reshuffle in the first place.
2. If that was the case, you have to believe gritch has the second Spy chosen. Odds for this is 1 : 19.
3. Three users were involved in total so it should make a conversation through PMs ever so slow.

@gritch: There was no "reshuffle" of the roles, Headsprouter can confirm that.

No, he can't... you know this, and you're banking on the new people not knowing it.

Let's say your hypothetical "reshuffle" was true. I'm willing to bet no one who got a role before it will say they got a message saying they no longer had the role afterwards.

So what you're asking is that the person who was the original spy, and turned down the role to become the lawyer to out themselves (thus ensuring their death) to prove your point. Yeah I wonder why no one is willing to do that.

You weren't here at the time, but during a previous round ALL the roles had to be moved about because the GM made a mistake (and I lost the Medic role). When this happened, the GM announced that they moved - I didn't see Headsprouter doing the same, even if it was just for the one role. Why? Because no "reshuffle" took place.

The chance to be the lawyer over being the spy? Hell yes! How many times has the lawyer been killed? None since I started playing three rounds ago. How many times has the spy been killed? two of three rounds. Plus there is the fact that being the bad guy in a game like this is WAAAY more fun I would think. Your statement is nothing more than an opinion (just like mine) that you are trying to present as fact.

I've been the Spy and Lawyer once each before. Being the Spy was much more fun. Opinions.

So you're really thinking gritch is the Spy? Pfft, get ready to have your mind blown when either me or he dies.

 

[Aerosteam]

That screenshot gritch took looks very real too ... I cannot see any photo editing / photoshop mistakes. Either it's a very well done attempt or the real deal . . .. hmm . .. ...

He's a crafty one. Got pretty much everything right - except for the inclusion of snekadid, a dead player, in his fake suspect list and the claim that there was a reshuffle of roles.

 

[Demagogue]

@gritch:
@Demagogue:

.. Voting for me? Awwww you shouldn't have ... no really, you shouldn't of voted for me -_- .. because I was simply the first person mentioned on the list. Last two Rounds, I was the first person on the list as well but was I the Killer? Nope. Just saying.

Actually I voted for you before I saw gritch's list, I simply picked you at random.

Also just to point out- Aerosteam is NOT the Killer. I know 99% for a fact he is neither the Killer nor Lawyer. Even if he is (despite I still believe him) wrong about his accusation ... he still provided quite a good amount of evidence and there's other reasons for him to believe gritch may be the Killer / Laywer.

That screenshot gritch took looks very real too ... I cannot see any photo editing / photoshop mistakes. Either it's a very well done attempt or the real deal . . .. hmm . .. ...

Unless you are admitting to being the Killer or Lawyer, you can't know 99% for a fact that he is neither the killer nor lawyer. Do you really want that kind of gaze put back on you? And I didn't say Aerosteam's evidence was wrong. It is all 100% fact from what I can tell looking for photoshop errors like you have. What I'm saying is that Aerosteam's story to go along with those facts are misguided.

So you're really thinking gritch is the Spy? Pfft, get ready to have your mind blown when either me or he dies.

I'm not 100% sold on gritch being the spy no... but I'm not sold on your story of the facts either. I guess only time will tell which of us is right and which is wrong.

 

[Aerosteam]

@Caramel: Gettin' out of practice, eh?

Though, there is a much, much, much more simpler way of editing PMs, you don't even need something like PhotoShop. I'm suspecting gritch did this method to make these (almost completely accurate) screen caps.

You know about "Developer tools" on Google Chrome, right?

 

[Demagogue]

That screenshot gritch took looks very real too ... I cannot see any photo editing / photoshop mistakes. Either it's a very well done attempt or the real deal . . .. hmm . .. ...

He's a crafty one. Got pretty much everything right - except for the inclusion of snekadid, a dead player, in his fake suspect list and the claim that there was a reshuffle of roles.

@Aerosteam: .. .. .. Oh wow you're right @ __ @ even I overlooked that detail.

Okay, so maybe I'm just not getting this... the list is supposed to have everyone in it, how is snekadid being dead a factor? I admit that there was definitely the time to say that yeah he was dead (since Head told us someone died at 5PM and sent the list to gritch at noonish the following day) but dead or not, he is American, and thus should be on the list for the question is the killer American. Right?

From the rules:

Example: "Does the Killer have a letter 'a' in their username?"
IF YES: The GM replies with a list of everyone who does have a letter 'a' in their username.
IF NO: The GM replies with a list of everyone who does not have a letter 'a' in their username.

not everyone that is alive, not everyone other than the spy, everyone.

I'll admit that this morning I thought that Head could only say yes or no, but Scar Unseen corrected me about that earlier.

 

[Aerosteam]

@Dema: It was me who wrote that rule, and I admit I made a slight mistake on it.

I was meant to say "everyone who is still possible to be a suspect" - which means no dead players, no players who have already been confirmed to not be the Killer because of a previous question. I think other older players will say that's been the case. Since gritch is a relatively new player, it would make sense he'd make this mistake when he made the list himself.

 

[Demagogue]

@Aero: Ahhh okay. Would Head have known this?

I don't know man... like I said, it is a very good story... but I'm skeptical. I know some of you are very sneaky about things (Arma/FPLOON last round) and if gritch wasn't the real spy it would only take one word from our actual spy saying "yeah that list is a fake, here is what I really asked Headsprouter and his reply" but we haven't seen that either. Even if talking got him killed, he'd die in round two, be ressed in round two (I think or would the priest have to wait until round 3?) and then he would get his next set of questions and be protected by the medic in round 4.

edit: you guys and your damn sneaky quotes... I was wondering how you were quoting me and not showing anything.

 

[Aerosteam]

@Dema: Ghost quoting is a secret trade, bud. And for clarification on the immunity the revived player would get: it lasts until voting time starts next cycle, if the revival takes place during voting time, it doesn't mean that one, but the next.

I'm only assuming the real Spy isn't speaking up because really, he/she doesn't need to. They'll wait till they get their second question in and cut the real list in half again.

And honestly, if someone were to show up right now and say they were the Spy, would you believe them?

 

[Demagogue]

@Aero: No, no I wouldn't believe them... but then I still believe gritch is the actual spy. Just not enough to put money on it. lol

Right... but so if they announced now that they were the spy, the soonest they could get killed is by the killer in round 2. What I'm uncertain of, is if the killer kills them in round two, can the priest bring them back that round, or do they have to wait until round 3?

 

[Aerosteam]

@Dema: The Priest can activate their role as soon as they want, even immediately after a murder. In the round I was the GM in I sent a message to the Priest saying "The Spy was just murdered, do you want to activate your role?" and they did.

 

[Dying_Jester]

So, now that we've got who's possibly the killer/spy/lawyer talk out of the way, what about the other roles I wonder.
Any ideas, anyone? Come on, I'm sure the others, caramel, are feeling left out on people not pointing fingers and saying who the priest, caramel, or such and such is.

...Caramel.

 

[Demagogue]

Ahhhh... good to know good to know.

So lets go over your reasoning again for a moment. The reasons you think gritch isn't the spy are:

1. No announcement from Headsprouter about a role reshuffle.
2. Super fast turnaround on the re-shuffle if it did occur (30 minutes via PM with three people)
3. The fact that both he and snekadid show up on the list, which you believe they shouldn't because they aren't really suspects, one would be the spy, the other dead.

Did I miss any?

 

[BeerTent]

@Demagogue, mah bro from another pro-... vince...

I... I dunno what I was trying to accomplish on this one.

I've done some finagling, and I can prettymuch confirm that the PM screencaps cannot be conclusively used as evidence.

I will allow @Caramel Frappe: to confirm that he did not indeed send me the complete and full lyrics to the song "The bird is the word" via PM's. Evidence? Below...

Spoiler: I'm so sorry for using your PM, Caramel Frappe... BUT! This is the price you pay for me liking you in return!

Because I've trimmed my 2nd monitor, which has an adorable cat... I will now display my expression at the time with cat pictures.

Spoiler: At first I was all cheeky, like it probably wouldn't work using Firefox's dev function I discovered after I set my Steam overlay to F12.

Spoiler: So I fired that shit up, checked it out. Turns out, you can do it. However, my expression truly changed after I realized the implications of my discovery.

I'm sorry Aerostream. I would rescind my vote, but I don't think I've ever made one in the first place. On a completely unrelated topic, I don't even think I know how. PM Headsprouter? I thought you just said it in the thread, which is why I made such a big deal about it in my post with dramatizations.

Edit: On another note... Gritch's avatar looks a little less trustworthy now. Is that REALLY science in your vial?

 

[Euryalus]

It was clearly erttheking

 

[Demagogue]

@Demagogue, mah bro from another pro-... vince...

I'm sorry Aerostream. I would rescind my vote, but I don't think I've ever made one in the first place. On a completely unrelated topic, I don't even think I know how. PM Headsprouter? I thought you just said it in the thread, which is why I made such a big deal about it in my post with dramatizations.

Yo homie! At least you aren't from Quebec... like some people. >.>

and yes, to vote you PM the GM (Headsprouter in this case) your vote. You'll have to remember to do it at some point. If you miss three votes you get the boot from the round. (not sure if it is 3 in a row or just 3 in general)

 

[Aerosteam]

@Dema: That's about it. For now. I'll just say you've been mislead very, very heavily.

 

[Aerosteam]

@Beer: Aye, just PM Headsprouter the name of the person you want to be executed.

@Dema: It's 3 in a row.

 

[Euryalus]

It was clearly erttheking

@T0ad 0f Truth: .. What makes erttheking stand out in this game?
I had two people PM me to execute him and now you're advising it too.

... .. Is his death post that legit?

I have absolutely no reasoning for the decision other than I recognize his name. Blindly accusing someone is just something that felt right you know? Perjury? More like Funjery!

Also I'm not actually part of this round XD