Serial Killer Round 68: - Cylon Invasion - Cycle 9 - Game Over! The Killer has Won!

[Secondhand Revenant]

Yeah I get where you're coming from. I'd just give them some time. Though voting for them right now is a fair solution since if they don't join in then by round 3 we suddenly lose people, making them potentially riskier for us to keep alive than anyone else. So offing them is a sort of bide our time until our spy comes back strategy.

They're online, but are they posting? Like I said, I'm fairly certain my profile is online 24/7 due to my cellphone.

They haven't posted since the 25th it says. And likewise, I'm logged in on my phone and I have no idea if it might claim I'm online while doing other things on my phone.

Yep, Day 1 votes are always the hardest because there's always so little to go on. But it seems a waste not to have at least some discussion on who might be best to pick before everyone just votes completely at random.

I do have a vested interest in coordination. Poor coordination means I might be more liable to be executed. I voted a bit early for that though...

 

[Armadox]

It's-a-me, the priest. Everyone look at me!

Honestly the trickster is more dangerous then the arbiter right now, because it's only this turn that you have any sort of target on your head, and if he was going to pull a dick dastardly, it'd be now that changing the votes to favor you would be doable. But I could count on my fingers only three people who'd do such a thing as the trickster.

I'd say you're safer now then ever, honestly.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

But that's a valid tactical strategy, just fire blindly at the darkness.

It can be, unless you're working in a team and you all start firing blindly at the darkness without knowing where everyone else is standing, then it becomes a good way to rack up a lot of friendly fire casualties...

That gives the killer fewer places to hide!

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

But that's a valid tactical strategy, just fire blindly at the darkness.

It can be, unless you're working in a team and you all start firing blindly at the darkness without knowing where everyone else is standing, then it becomes a good way to rack up a lot of friendly fire casualties...

That gives the killer fewer places to hide!

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

If I'm lying then I get executed next round. Which would be awful for the lawyer. Bit better for a random, but then it makes the killer want me dead just in case. It also denies me a vote as an evil random ruining my ability to sow chaos.

Medic is different because it's asking to die next round. Priest is gonna die next round using his ability so that isn't much of a downside for him. Certainly not asking to be informed of roles. If anyone should be informed of roles ans coordinating things it should be Scars when he revives because he'll still be in the game and he's 100% trustworthy since his role was revealed

 

[Armadox]

But that's a valid tactical strategy, just fire blindly at the darkness.

It can be, unless you're working in a team and you all start firing blindly at the darkness without knowing where everyone else is standing, then it becomes a good way to rack up a lot of friendly fire casualties...

That gives the killer fewer places to hide!

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

If I'm lying then I get executed next round. Which would be awful for the lawyer. Bit better for a random, but then it makes the killer want me dead just in case. It also denies me a vote as an evil random ruining my ability to sow chaos.

Medic is different because it's asking to die next round. Priest is gonna die next round using his ability so that isn't much of a downside for him. Certainly not asking to be informed of roles. If anyone should be informed of roles ans coordinating things it should be Scars when he revives because he'll still be in the game and he's 100% trustworthy since his role was revealed

Just going to say it now, to go from flubbing your position so badly the other day to this today is still kinda sketch. It's real hard to see you as having goofed your position, and that vocally and then have you call odds like this suddenly. I know, you've had time to check out the rules, but who'd not check out what their role did when they got it? I really don't get you, Secondhand Revenant. You're skirting a line between being either the most incompetent priest or the ballsiest, xanatos gambiting lawyer ever. I am impressed either way.

 

[FPLOON]

@cimson5pheonix: *walks back in*
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Golden-Girl-Blanche-Devereaux-Does-A-Double-Take-Reaction-Gif.gif
You're sending more mixed signal than me on a good day... Regardless, it doesn't seem like we could help one another after all... with you being [REDACTED] and all...

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

But that's a valid tactical strategy, just fire blindly at the darkness.

It can be, unless you're working in a team and you all start firing blindly at the darkness without knowing where everyone else is standing, then it becomes a good way to rack up a lot of friendly fire casualties...

That gives the killer fewer places to hide!

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

If I'm lying then I get executed next round. Which would be awful for the lawyer. Bit better for a random, but then it makes the killer want me dead just in case. It also denies me a vote as an evil random ruining my ability to sow chaos.

Medic is different because it's asking to die next round. Priest is gonna die next round using his ability so that isn't much of a downside for him. Certainly not asking to be informed of roles. If anyone should be informed of roles ans coordinating things it should be Scars when he revives because he'll still be in the game and he's 100% trustworthy since his role was revealed

Just going to say it now, to go from flubbing your position so badly the other day to this today is still kinda sketch. It's real hard to see you as having goofed your position, and that vocally and then have you call odds like this suddenly. I know, you've had time to check out the rules, but who'd not check out what their role did when they got it? I really don't get you, Secondhand Revenant. You're skirting a line between being either the most incompetent priest or the ballsiest, xanatos gambiting lawyer ever. I am impressed either way.

I'd also be a very dead lawyer... But I did indeed check it out, before I got my role even, I looked at the all. I just remembered it as "Priest can die to revive someone." I wasn't expecting to want to use that kind of ability very fast. Then the spy died and I figured he's the only one worth dying for... Then the next post reminded me about the cycles thing.

When I play Werewolf people sometimes mention their roles when it's very important. Like if the seer found the last wolf. Lying tends to be more useful when the number of people have been whittled down and you need to finish fast before too many are dead. Then lying can cause useful delays. At this point if I were evil I don't think I'd make a very good delay XD

 

[crimson5pheonix]

@cimson5pheonix: *walks back in*
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You're sending more mixed signal than me on a good day... Regardless, it doesn't seem like we could help one another after all... with you being [REDACTED] and all...

It's okay, I just use people, it's my thing.

 

[FPLOON]

@crimson5pheonix: Huh... And to think the last person I "tried" to seduce was also known to "use people"... Coincidence or Magnets?

 

[crimson5pheonix]

@crimson5pheonix: Huh... And to think the last person I "tried" to seduce was also known to "use people"... Coincidence or Magnets?

You don't get good at using people if you can't make them work against their better judgement.

 

[gritch]

But I could count on my fingers only three people who'd do such a thing as the trickster.

*holds up fingers* let's see... Armadox, Demagogue... me? Would I do that as the Trickster? Maybe. Might be interesting.

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

If another roles is stupid enough to fall for that we were in trouble from the get-go. Simply announcing your role doesn't mean others should share their role with you. In fact it works better for someone like the Medic to remain completely anonymous as long as possible. Especially this early on the risk on an accidental execution or happenstance murder is as low as it gets.

You're skirting a line between being either the most incompetent priest or the ballsiest, xanatos gambiting lawyer ever. I am impressed either way.

Hey I claim the ballsiest Lawyer award for my performance two rounds a go!

Please just calm down and lets look at the scenarios:

• 1. Revenant is the Medic
  • a. He's executed - We really done messed up.
    b. He's not executed - He sacrifices himself next round to revive Scars.

• 2. Revenant isn't the Medic
  • a. He's the Lawyer
    • i. He's executed - Great. He wasn't a very smart Lawyer.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next round.
    b. He's the Killer
    • i. He's executed - Great. He wasn't a very smart Killer. The round's over.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next cycle and the round's over.
    c. He has no role/non-evil role.
    • i. He's executed - Meh. People have been execute for pettier reasons. He probably wasn't on the up and up anyway.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next round. He was probably aligned with the Killer.

As a former villain, I don't see there being much to gain by pretending to be the Priest and a lot to lose. This wouldn't be a ballsy gambit an intelligent Lawyer would make - it'd be suicidal.

Side note: Nested lists are really annoying to format...

 

[crimson5pheonix]

But I could count on my fingers only three people who'd do such a thing as the trickster.

*holds up fingers* let's see... Armadox, Demagogue... me? Would I do that as the Trickster? Maybe. Might be interesting.

Real talk though: I'm suspicious of Revenant either being the lawyer or a random working with the killer. Announcing yourself as the medic is a good way to get naive players to tell you their role in a bid for cooperation.

If another roles is stupid enough to fall for that we were in trouble from the get-go. Simply announcing your role doesn't mean others should share their role with you. In fact it works better for someone like the Medic to remain completely anonymous as long as possible. Especially this early on the risk on an accidental execution or happenstance murder is as low as it gets.

You're skirting a line between being either the most incompetent priest or the ballsiest, xanatos gambiting lawyer ever. I am impressed either way.

Hey I claim the ballsiest Lawyer award for my performance two rounds a go!

Please just calm down and lets look at the scenarios:

• 1. Revenant is the Medic
  • a. He's executed - We really done messed up.
    b. He's not executed - He sacrifices himself next round to revive Scars.

• 2. Revenant isn't the Medic
  • a. He's the Lawyer
    • i. He's executed - Great. He wasn't a very smart Lawyer.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next round.
    b. He's the Killer
    • i. He's executed - Great. He wasn't a very smart Killer. The round's over.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next cycle and the round's over.
    c. He has no role/non-evil role.
    • i. He's executed - Meh. People have been execute for pettier reasons. He probably wasn't on the up and up anyway.
      ii. He's not executed - The real Priest sacrifices themselves and we know Revenant's a liar. He is executed next round. He was probably aligned with the Killer.

As a former villain, I don't see there being much to gain by pretending to be the Priest and a lot to lose. This wouldn't be a ballsy gambit an intelligent Lawyer would make - it'd be suicidal.

Side note: Nested lists are really annoying to format...

Doesn't the priest not have to say if they died or not?

 

[gritch]

Doesn't the priest not have to say if they died or not?

Using their power would sacrifice themselves and the GM would make an announcement to the effect of:

[HEADING=1]The Priest [insert name here] has sacrificed themself to revive [insert name here][/HEADING]

At least that's how I assume it works. That's how the Arbiter worked 2 rounds ago. This is still only my 4th round actually and they've all been rather quick. Once their ability is used their role becomes public knowledge. They are only exempt from having to write a death post (although they still can). The GM still has to inform everyone when someone is killed/sacrificed/removed from the game for us to vote properly.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Doesn't the priest not have to say if they died or not?

Using their power would sacrifice themselves and the GM would make an announcement to the effect of:

[HEADING=1]The Priest [insert name here] has sacrificed themself to revive [insert name here][/HEADING]

At least that's how I assume it works. That's how the Arbiter worked 2 rounds ago. This is still only my 4th round actually and they've all been rather quick. Once their ability is used their role becomes public knowledge. They are only exempt from having to write a death post (although they still can). The GM still has to inform everyone when someone is killed/sacrificed/removed from the game for us to vote properly.

A Priest who uses their ability does not have to write a death post. Whoever is revived by it does not have to write a second one also.

It reads like neither person has to say it happened if they don't want to.

EDIT: I don't know, I suppose we'll find out.

 

[gritch]

A Priest who uses their ability does not have to write a death post. Whoever is revived by it does not have to write a second one also.

It reads like neither person has to say it happened if they don't want to.

EDIT: I don't know, I suppose we'll find out.

At least in previous rounds the Priest was announced once they used their ability. here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/362.869033.21783023]

But yeah I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[FPLOON]

@crimson5pheonix: But, when the phrase "using people" comes to my mind, either the word "sex" or "compromise" follow afterwards... Besides, I don't think they would need me, per se, to work against their better judgement... *wink* if you know what I mean...

 

[crimson5pheonix]

@crimson5pheonix: But, when the phrase "using people" comes to my mind, either the word "sex" or "compromise" follow afterwards... Besides, I don't think they would need me, per se, to work against their better judgement... *wink* if you know what I mean...

So long as you think so. Also, as an aside, can you clarify what we're talking about vis-a-vis priests.

 

[Demagogue]

@gritch: Ouch... Why you gotta be like that man. [footnote]I kid I kid, I'm not sad[/footnote]

Also, what's with the trickster hate on for me... Why am I getting looped in with the likes of Dissociative Personality Disorder Armadox? ( How else could you live by the D9 of alignments ) I've only ever had one role and we all know how well that turned out.

Also also, personally I'm fond of this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/362.873844-Serial-Killer-Round-64-The-Marxist-Menace-Cycle-5-Troubleshooter-Victory?page=7#21965118] Priest self-sacrifice myself.

@Crimson: To answer your question, no the priest wouldn't have to make a death post, and in my announcement I could just leave it at "The priest has resurrected person X" as some previous GMs have. However, considering the priest dies in the process, the first post will be updated with that fact as well, so there isn't much point to not including the priest's name in the announcement too and save folks having to keep tabs on the first sheet all the time.


@All: Reminder that votes must be in by:
[HEADING=3]July 1st at 10:15PM UTC which is in: [timer=07/01/2015 10:15 PM UTC][/HEADING]

 

[FPLOON]

@crimson5pheonix:

Spoiler: MFW

http://abload.de/img/poshhairdontcarem5sp5.gif I don't know...

I thought we were botching BSG-based plot points or some shit like that... since I don't know shit about "preists"...

@Caramel Frappe: Considering I feel like there is more than one Cylon on top of the main Cylon we're trying to find/execute, shit can only get [something something]hill from here!