Serial Killer Round 68: - Cylon Invasion - Cycle 9 - Game Over! The Killer has Won!

[Headsprouter]

@Demagogue I know what you mean. My round was short-lived, but it was certainly entertaining to watch the accusation war on Gritch, especially knowing what was going on.

 

[Pseudonym]

For the time being, I think I'm just going to vote for one of the silent people. Trying to find out who the killer is, is easier if at least everyone speaks. Gives the bad guys more chances to slip up while we wait to hopefully get our spy back and get some real information.

 

[FPLOON]

@crimson5pheonix:

Spoiler: Oh poo...

https://33.media.tumblr.com/c366216bdf444f1f391ec96825e3606e/tumblr_mkzu70nCSX1qbswk6o1_500.gif

And to think, we could have benefited one another in the long run... *walks away seductively*

 

[crimson5pheonix]

@crimson5pheonix:

Spoiler: Oh poo...

https://33.media.tumblr.com/c366216bdf444f1f391ec96825e3606e/tumblr_mkzu70nCSX1qbswk6o1_500.gif

And to think, we could have benefited one another in the long run... *walks away seductively*

I'm a strong, independent [REDACTED] who don't need no one!

 

[Armadox]

crazy town...

Oh geez, one sec.. *rolls his dice of alignment*

True neutral. Well, since I have no position, and we know who the spy and priest are so there is no reason to lie about being one of them to protect them. I made those posts without actually paying any sort of attention to what was happening. Also, I am slightly offended at you using those posts as accusation. Wouldn't you think I'd be a little more savvy to protecting myself then blatantly oust myself in the first post? Who do you think I am?! Demagogue?

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

crazy town...

Oh geez, one sec.. *rolls his dice of alignment*

True neutral. Well, since I have no position, and we know who the spy and priest are so there is no reason to lie about being one of them to protect them. I made those posts without actually paying any sort of attention to what was happening. Also, I am slightly offended at you using those posts as accusation. Wouldn't you think I'd be a little more savvy to protecting myself then blatantly oust myself in the first post? Who do you think I am?! Demagogue?

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

Well no, I accidentally said it too early. I forgot that I had to wait until second cycle. I then saw Aero's post right after mine mentioning it. I edited it out, but then I decided it was too likely someone had seen it AND I had quoted gritch.

Plus if I am the priest I have a single round to live. If I'm not lying I sacrifice myself. If I'm lying at best I delay people one round. If I were the lawyer that would be a poor use of my life. And it'd be certain death for the killer. After all if I lied and didn't revive the spy then I'd just be promptly executed.

So given my slip up and not being sure who saw it I figured asking for the medic's help would be safer. Of course the arbiter could kill me but then he or she is out of the game early too. It was indeed a bit disappointing to see the spy die so fast because it means I need to die fast.

Edit: also I only PMed gritch since I quoted him and he was going to see the original text for sure. PMing everyone, while sure to get the medic's attention, seemed like it would be too obnoxious.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

For the time being, I think I'm just going to vote for one of the silent people. Trying to find out who the killer is, is easier if at least everyone speaks. Gives the bad guys more chances to slip up while we wait to hopefully get our spy back and get some real information.

I'm kind of of that mind as well, which is why I made a point to call them out. Especially in the early stages, this seems like the most "fair" thing to do, if we don't have a solid suspect and just need to pick at random, weeding out the people who don't seem all that enthused/willing to participate seems to be the way to go. It annoys me when people sign up for a game like this and then don't play. Though I am really confused how two people were put down as players without them even having posted in the thread.

I mean, the argument can be made that "well, what if they're a power role?" Well, what if they are? If they're not posting, not willing to defend themselves, what reason do we have to believe that they'll even use their role anyways? Though, some gm's will auto kill anyone who doesn't post after so long, so some clarification on these points would be nice.

@Demagogue: Is there a reason DoPo and snekadid are listed as players even though I can't find a single post from them in the thread? And do you auto kill players for inactivity?

They could still vote silently. Not very fun in my opinion unless it's some kind of strategy though I think it would be a dangerous one because it makes them stand out

They could also just be busy with life, though I suppose if they're posting elsewhere on the Escapist that would be unlikely.

 

[Demagogue]

@Demagogue I know what you mean. My round was short-lived, but it was certainly entertaining to watch the accusation war on Gritch, especially knowing what was going on.

!!! OMG way to trigger me Headsprouter...

That round will haunt me for the rest of my life.

For the time being, I think I'm just going to vote for one of the silent people. Trying to find out who the killer is, is easier if at least everyone speaks. Gives the bad guys more chances to slip up while we wait to hopefully get our spy back and get some real information.

You mean like announce that someone was saved that ONLY the killer and GM would know? *oopsface*

@Demagogue: Is there a reason DoPo and snekadid are listed as players even though I can't find a single post from them in the thread? And do you auto kill players for inactivity?

Because they signed up when we were getting started. I'm kind of surprised DoPo hasn't said anything as he's usually pretty active he could just be having a busy weekend/week so far. Depending on where he lives there are holidays at the start of July. Same goes for snekadid.

To answer your question, yes they would be kicked. Here is the quote from the rules:

When a player fails to vote within the full 48 hour voting time in 3 cycles in a row, said player will be kicked from the game. If they had a role, it will be passed on to a random, alive player. This also does not count as an execution or murder.

Also, if for some reason we don't get enough votes by the end of 2 days there is this rule:

The game's voting has a strictly enforced time limit. All participants have TWO DAYS at absolute most to cast their votes. If votes do not reach 65% in participation, the Killer will be spared, and a random non-voted person will be killed off instead.

which would kill off one of the non-voters as well. For this round we need 13 votes to ensure this rule didn't kick in.

Hope that helps clear things up a little.

 

[gritch]

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

I will point out this is his first game. Other more veteran players *cough* Demagogue[footnote][sub]I <3 you, man...[/sub][/footnote] *cough* have made just as bad mistakes. And if he IS the Priest voting for him would be probably the worse thing we could do. If he's not the priest it'll become apparent rather quickly after the real priest revives Scars... and then we can kill him.

It honestly makes no sense for him to pretend to be the Priest maliciously. If he's on the side of the Killer the best he could do is draw a potential protection away from the Medic which is still no guarantee that the Priest will get killed. It barely even increases the odds of killing the priest. As soon as the Priest is then revealed either through being killed or using his ability he'd have his cover blown immediately. What the hell would be the point?

Save your vote. Pick someone else and your suspicions will resolve themselves on their own.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

They could still vote silently. Not very fun in my opinion unless it's some kind of strategy though I think it would be a dangerous one because it makes them stand out

They could also just be busy with life, though I suppose if they're posting elsewhere on the Escapist that would be unlikely.

Indeed, but it would seem @snekadid: was on earlier this morning and @kingofkumquats: and @DoPo: are both online now, so none of them seem to have the busy with life excuse.

And yeah, I just don't like people who don't post in such games. Most of the fun is in the participation, and the less people who participate by posting, the less fun it tends to be. I've seen far too many games like this die because only a small handful of people are posting, so I'm rather biased against lurkers and non-participants.

They're online, but are they posting? Like I said, I'm fairly certain my profile is online 24/7 due to my cellphone.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

They could still vote silently. Not very fun in my opinion unless it's some kind of strategy though I think it would be a dangerous one because it makes them stand out

They could also just be busy with life, though I suppose if they're posting elsewhere on the Escapist that would be unlikely.

Indeed, but it would seem @snekadid: was on earlier this morning and @kingofkumquats: and @DoPo: are both online now, so none of them seem to have the busy with life excuse.

And yeah, I just don't like people who don't post in such games. Most of the fun is in the participation, and the less people who participate by posting, the less fun it tends to be. I've seen far too many games like this die because only a small handful of people are posting, so I'm rather biased against lurkers and non-participants.

Yeah I get where you're coming from. I'd just give them some time. Though voting for them right now is a fair solution since if they don't join in then by round 3 we suddenly lose people, making them potentially riskier for us to keep alive than anyone else. So offing them is a sort of bide our time until our spy comes back strategy.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

They could still vote silently. Not very fun in my opinion unless it's some kind of strategy though I think it would be a dangerous one because it makes them stand out

They could also just be busy with life, though I suppose if they're posting elsewhere on the Escapist that would be unlikely.

Indeed, but it would seem @snekadid: was on earlier this morning and @kingofkumquats: and @DoPo: are both online now, so none of them seem to have the busy with life excuse.

And yeah, I just don't like people who don't post in such games. Most of the fun is in the participation, and the less people who participate by posting, the less fun it tends to be. I've seen far too many games like this die because only a small handful of people are posting, so I'm rather biased against lurkers and non-participants.

They're online, but are they posting? Like I said, I'm fairly certain my profile is online 24/7 due to my cellphone.

They haven't posted since the 25th it says. And likewise, I'm logged in on my phone and I have no idea if it might claim I'm online while doing other things on my phone.

 

[Armadox]

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

I will point out this is his first game. Other more veteran players *cough* Demagogue[footnote][sub]I <3 you, man...[/sub][/footnote] *cough* have made just as bad mistakes. And if he IS the Priest voting for him would be probably the worse thing we could do. If he's not the priest it'll become apparent rather quickly after the real priest revives Scars... and then we can kill him.

It honestly makes no sense for him to pretend to be the Priest maliciously. If he's on the side of the Killer the best he could do is draw a potential protection away from the Medic which is still no guarantee that the Priest will get killed. It barely even increases the odds of killing the priest. As soon as the Priest is then revealed either through being killed or using his ability he'd have his cover blown immediately. What the hell would be the point?

Save your vote. Pick someone else and your suspicions will resolve themselves on their own.

Alright, you've convinced me. I'll pick someone else. Also, how often do you have an evil arbiter? I mean, I was[footnote] says Frappe, even thought I was chaotic rather then evil, and picked my target randomly...[/footnote], but then again, the absolute amusement that came from my actions was more then well worth the price of admission. I'd bet against the arbiter or the trickster trying their hand at ruining the priest on account of the game. Sorry for suspecting you Secondhand Revenant.

 

[Armadox]

crazy town...

Oh geez, one sec.. *rolls his dice of alignment*

True neutral. Well, since I have no position, and we know who the spy and priest are so there is no reason to lie about being one of them to protect them. I made those posts without actually paying any sort of attention to what was happening. Also, I am slightly offended at you using those posts as accusation. Wouldn't you think I'd be a little more savvy to protecting myself then blatantly oust myself in the first post? Who do you think I am?! Demagogue?

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

Also, don't get too offended, I didn't really think they were that suspicious, but in light of all the other filler posts everyone else has been making, they were the only ones to stand out as something that could mean something being passed off as a joke (I've seen people use the whole "joke to be the killer to make people think they're not the killer" tactic before). But mostly, I just needed something to get the ball rolling on some kind of discussion. Not many people seemed all that interested in suggesting targets or getting people talking about the actual game and who to vote for/not to vote for.

Don't worry, you're not going to offend me. I get your mentality. I tend to play loud and rampant in these games, and I'm usually the loudest when I don't actually have anything up my sleeve (being the entwined in the first game for instance had me posting all the time because I knew it was moot if I was alive or dead). I'm also not the killer, because Frappe is still alive.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Yeah I get where you're coming from. I'd just give them some time. Though voting for them right now is a fair solution since if they don't join in then by round 3 we suddenly lose people, making them potentially riskier for us to keep alive than anyone else. So offing them is a sort of bide our time until our spy comes back strategy.

They're online, but are they posting? Like I said, I'm fairly certain my profile is online 24/7 due to my cellphone.

They haven't posted since the 25th it says. And likewise, I'm logged in on my phone and I have no idea if it might claim I'm online while doing other things on my phone.

Yep, Day 1 votes are always the hardest because there's always so little to go on. But it seems a waste not to have at least some discussion on who might be best to pick before everyone just votes completely at random.

But that's a valid tactical strategy, just fire blindly at the darkness.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Ok, personally I'm wondering if Secondhand Revenant is really the priest. That seems pretty reckless to just toss out such a claim to a bunch of people on pm for no reason. Why even worry about sending out a message at all? The spy was already shown to be the spy, so if I was the priest I'd shut up like the spy's 1-up that I am until I can use my power. Secondhand Revenant doesn't sit well with me, and I'll be honest, I'm considering voting for him. Nothing adds up with his claim.

I will point out this is his first game. Other more veteran players *cough* Demagogue[footnote][sub]I <3 you, man...[/sub][/footnote] *cough* have made just as bad mistakes. And if he IS the Priest voting for him would be probably the worse thing we could do. If he's not the priest it'll become apparent rather quickly after the real priest revives Scars... and then we can kill him.

It honestly makes no sense for him to pretend to be the Priest maliciously. If he's on the side of the Killer the best he could do is draw a potential protection away from the Medic which is still no guarantee that the Priest will get killed. It barely even increases the odds of killing the priest. As soon as the Priest is then revealed either through being killed or using his ability he'd have his cover blown immediately. What the hell would be the point?

Save your vote. Pick someone else and your suspicions will resolve themselves on their own.

Alright, you've convinced me. I'll pick someone else. Also, how often do you have an evil arbiter? I mean, I was[footnote] says Frappe, even thought I was chaotic rather then evil, and picked my target randomly...[/footnote], but then again, the absolute amusement that came from my actions was more then well worth the price of admission. I'd bet against the arbiter or the trickster trying their hand at ruining the priest on account of the game. Sorry for suspecting you Secondhand Revenant.

Being suspicious is the thing to do, no worries =P

The arbiter has to make a sacrifice for it though so that may put them off it too earlier even if they are evil. Also if I were an evil arbiter I'd have far more sadistic plans...

Trickster though, they have no cost to their ability. They might as well use it every single vote to make their own decision count for more. And they might want to shake things up a bit. Or they could make it all the more likely I survive. Who knows what they want.