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messy said:
Perticular Elk said:
messy said:
best quote "facism is a type of socialism " these people have no idea what they are talking about.

And I must say I like this "NewLeftMedia"
Socialism is defined by the government controlling the means and distribution of products. Isn't that something the Nazis did? Doesn't the acronym "Nazi" stand for National Socialism?

Enlighten me please?
But the Nazis were really only that in name(initially they probably were true socialist), they changed the policies to appeal to whoever they were talking to. Then became fully facist when in power.
They were not 'true' socialists. There was quite a bit of Nazi literature in Germany saying things such as "to be national means to love your country, to be socialist means to love its people." They took the first part of that quite seriously. Nazism appealed mostly to German pride, not economic justice; they tended to beat up communists and didn't get much support from working class areas.
 

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jonny bhoy said:
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As a Canadian, yes.

I work at a hotel and you have no idea how many American customers will correct me that it's "soda", not "pop", and oh by the way do we take MasterCard up here?

Yes, sir, we have electricity, phone lines and banks up here too.
It depends on the area where those particular American are from. I'm from Minnesota, and we call it pop too. Don't lump us all into one convenient group like we're all the same.
I dont think he's complaining at them calling it "soda", I think it's their arrogance that he is complaining about.
I know. The premise of the last sentence I wrote still remains true. The pop thing was me going on a tangent.
 

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messy said:
ugeine said:
messy said:
Doesn't the acronym "Nazi" stand for National Socialism?

Enlighten me please?
In name only. It's a common political technique. When the Communist party in Russia split Lenin named his off shoot party The 'Bolsheviks' (meaning men of the majority).

Technically, in socialism, the workers would own the means of production (So really it's the direct opposite of fascism)
How did you quote me? I didn't say this, the guy before me did and I gave a similar answer (name only etc.)
Accidentally, must have messed up the quote boxes. Sorry about that.

and I was mainly just trying to back up your point with an example from Russia.
 

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There are population segments of my country whose dogged traditionalist beliefs fly so strongly in the face of reality that it holds back the rest of the country so very dramatically that it brings about an irrational urge to see whole American communities purged with fire.

This isn't the 1950s anymore. There are now twice the people on the planet than there was then. We no longer live in a world of plenty, where opulent, self-indulgent ignorance can operate. It's this uncomfortable reality that they refuse to accept, and we all - the whole world - suffer for it.

What's worse, the Republican party has largely been infiltrated by borderline criminals - they no longer represent anyone's interests but the extreme upper class, and they stay in power by lying their asses off, as they have been in the matter of Universal Health Care. For example, death panels are a complete fabrication. Another example: astroturfing. These actions are really leave little room for doubt: the corruption of the party is absolute.

The more intelligent Republican voter knows this, that's why they voted Democrat in 2008, and will hopefully continue to vote Democrat until they successfully root the corruption out of their own party.
 

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Please, rest assured, that the rest of us are not as misinformed or uninformed as those dolts are. I was so embarrased by those idiots that I couldn't even finish the video. I just can't believe that they would march and not even know what they were marching for. The one or two who didn't stammer when asked what policies they didn't like in specific, were just grossly misinformed as well. They would have been better off stammering like the rest.
 

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Woah, woah, WOAH! Take a step back, here! Don't lump all Americans in with those people! Some of us are actually sane and can think for ourselves.
 

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OMFG. I do hope that not all americans are like that. Seriously if you are an american and do not think like that, flee the country i will protect you from the idoicy that flows through so many of their minds. Tin Hats everyone!

I'm not kidding.

ok i am but you get my point
 

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I think I spoke of the "Americans being the Bane of humanity"-thread. The U.S government doing indiscriminate carpet bombings in other countries where thousands of civilians die because of it, you don't hear as much as a squeak from the american people.

But raise taxes, FOR ANY REASON AT ALL, and boy the streets of Washington suffers a bad case of over-crowding with disgruntled citizens.

-"Oh sure, go ahead mr President! Get our military to act like nazis in other countries, we don't mind. I mean it's just a bunch of 'brown people' of 'terrorist descent' dying anyway. But if you raise the fucking taxes then im going to rip you a new one, got it!?"

*facepalm*
america doesnt carpet bomb countries aand kill thousands of people you sir appear to be and idiot.
Seriously?
Shut the fuck up.
actually in the vietnam war it's guessed they killed thousands of innocent people with misguided bombing runs. They never apologized because they lost and they claimed that viet cong were holed up there. Howevere that was a 40-30 years ago.
 

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So when the liberals protest the war in Iraq, it's ok, but when conservatives protest the healthcare plan, they are idiots. Seriously... Whether you agree with them or not, they are excercising their rights as Americans to protest something they disagree with. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure they too think people who disagree with them are, "Idiots," as well.

Seriously... Grow up.

And they are hardly a minority... There are a LOT of Americans who are opposed to Obama's plans for a variety of reasons. Maybe people like them are a minority on these forums but there is hardly any proof that they are a minority within the U.S. If that was the case, then Obama's reforms would have been passed before the August recess, and there would be far less debate.
 

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That video is everything thats wrong with the Republican Party in America right now. It's also why people like Glen Beck, O Rielly, and Hannity should be force fed Clorox but meh...

As per the actual topic, yes these people are a minority. They're an extremely vocal minority however.

tsb247 said:
So when the liberals protest the war in Iraq, it's ok, but when conservatives protest the healthcare plan, they are idiots. Seriously... Whether you agree with them or not, they are excercising their rights as Americans to protest something they disagree with. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure they too think people who disagree with them are, "Idiots," as well.

Seriously... Grow up.

And they are hardly a minority... There are a LOT of Americans who are opposed to Obama's plans for a variety of reasons. Maybe people like them are a minority on these forums but there is hardly any proof that they are a minority within the U.S. If that was the case, then Obama's reforms would have been passed before the August recess, and there would be far less debate.
Disagreeing with the healthcare bill and Democratic adminstration is fine I don't agree with everythings Dems are doing, but I sure as hell don't put myself in the same group as the retards in this video and the type of people who suscribe to republican pundits like Glen Beck. Even within the Republican party these people are the minority it's just that they have control over the parties leadership at the moment. That and they are so vocal they make it seem like the entire Republican party is behind them when they aren't.

I would say the exact same thing about the extreme leftists during the Bush administration. That in itself describes what these people are, extremists.

In short yes there are a lot of people who disagree with democrats. These people however are indeed idiots (I really don't see how you can think these people are in any way not blubbering idiots) and a minority even when talking about people against the Obama administration. And hell i for one would be ashamed to even belong to the same political party as these people.
 

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tsb247 said:
So when the liberals protest the war in Iraq, it's ok, but when conservatives protest the healthcare plan, they are idiots. Seriously... Whether you agree with them or not, they are excercising their rights as Americans to protest something they disagree with. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure they too think people who disagree with them are, "Idiots," as well.

Seriously... Grow up.

And they are hardly a minority... There are a LOT of Americans who are opposed to Obama's plans for a variety of reasons. Maybe people like them are a minority on these forums but there is hardly any proof that they are a minority within the U.S. If that was the case, then Obama's reforms would have been passed before the August recess, and there would be far less debate.
agreed . its freedom and taking down the government when bush is in power, but now if u go against the new guy your a racist and your views cant have any good points on them. but if u ever went to a war protest and asked them questions about they war they have no idea what they are talking about just like these people.
 

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Well, as George Carlin once put it, "left and right are just as bad from a different direction." Always kinda liked that one.
 

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*Facepalm* You have //got// to be kidding me. Even as an American, I have little to no love for the idiots of this, or even any, country. (Yes, I'm very cynical, why do you ask?)

Not all Americans are like that, but I can't help but think a lot of them are.
 

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zacoman said:
tsb247 said:
So when the liberals protest the war in Iraq, it's ok, but when conservatives protest the healthcare plan, they are idiots. Seriously... Whether you agree with them or not, they are excercising their rights as Americans to protest something they disagree with. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure they too think people who disagree with them are, "Idiots," as well.

Seriously... Grow up.

And they are hardly a minority... There are a LOT of Americans who are opposed to Obama's plans for a variety of reasons. Maybe people like them are a minority on these forums but there is hardly any proof that they are a minority within the U.S. If that was the case, then Obama's reforms would have been passed before the August recess, and there would be far less debate.
agreed . its freedom and taking down the government when bush is in power, but now if u go against the new guy your a racist and your views cant have any good points on them. but if u ever went to a war protest and asked them questions about they war they have no idea what they are talking about just like these people.
Yep, that's all I am saying.
 

messy

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Seanchaidh said:
messy said:
Perticular Elk said:
messy said:
best quote "facism is a type of socialism " these people have no idea what they are talking about.

And I must say I like this "NewLeftMedia"
Socialism is defined by the government controlling the means and distribution of products. Isn't that something the Nazis did? Doesn't the acronym "Nazi" stand for National Socialism?

Enlighten me please?
But the Nazis were really only that in name(initially they probably were true socialist), they changed the policies to appeal to whoever they were talking to. Then became fully facist when in power.
They were not 'true' socialists. There was quite a bit of Nazi literature in Germany saying things such as "to be national means to love your country, to be socialist means to love its people." They took the first part of that quite seriously. Nazism appealed mostly to German pride, not economic justice; they tended to beat up communists and didn't get much support from working class areas.
Yeah nationalistic and military pride really help Hitler get into power and stay there, with his expansion of all the transport networks and re-armed and increased its arm force's sizes