Sex, Violence, and the Wii
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by introducing the baby boomers to video games hopefully they wont be as ignorant about whats being said in the media. Here's to the comming generation of video game playing leaders.
Any sane human won't take a crowbar and kill all his friends cause he saw in HL2 that crowbars are weapons of mass destruction. The people that do such things are mentally insane and not video games are to blame like mass media wants us to believe.
About MW2 airport scene. Those HUMANS are NOT HUMANS. They are PIXELS. A bunch of pixels. I'm aware that little children play those games but those children get their money to buy the game from their parents, who then blame the game when their kid goes rampage. And the game asks you nicely if you are offended by such scenes. Is not like "ZOMG I never expected such horrifying scene".
I wonder why they rate the games anyway.
I don't see any time soon a change in how things are viewed. Maybe because the current gaming generation hasn't reached a certain age ("mom doesn't know how to open computer and panics at windows error sound. Probably hearth attack at BSOD" kind of thing)
About MW2 airport scene. Those HUMANS are NOT HUMANS. They are PIXELS. A bunch of pixels. I'm aware that little children play those games but those children get their money to buy the game from their parents, who then blame the game when their kid goes rampage. And the game asks you nicely if you are offended by such scenes. Is not like "ZOMG I never expected such horrifying scene".
I wonder why they rate the games anyway.
I don't see any time soon a change in how things are viewed. Maybe because the current gaming generation hasn't reached a certain age ("mom doesn't know how to open computer and panics at windows error sound. Probably hearth attack at BSOD" kind of thing)
Or it might just turn them into nintendo fanboys, saying things like: you don't see murder simulators like this on the wii.Robert0288 said:
So in other words, Wii is going to show people that video games don't turn you into murdering psychopaths.
Yeah, duh. In 10 years we won't find anyone suing a single game for having violence. Currently, the medium is still relatively young, and a lot of people don't have a clue what it's all about, so when an attention whore comes in with a lawsuit, they follow. But it's just a matter of time until people get over it.
Yeah, duh. In 10 years we won't find anyone suing a single game for having violence. Currently, the medium is still relatively young, and a lot of people don't have a clue what it's all about, so when an attention whore comes in with a lawsuit, they follow. But it's just a matter of time until people get over it.
Won't happen. The Wii's got its fair share of violent games: MadWorld, The Conduit, Fire Emblem, Dead Space: Extraction, Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros., Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, No More Heroes...GonzoGamer said:
This is a good thing, though. Since there will undoubtedly be people saying that (like those who protested MadWorld for the Wii because it was on the Wii), all that's needed will be to show them these games.
the "problem": people associate video games with children and teens. And children and teens shouldn't be exposed to sex,violence and stuff like that.
the faulty logic behind the problem: OH,C'MON! We live in the digital era - Internet has tons of free porn, that is as easy accessible as checking your mail (even with less clicks!). It's not good, but the kids are exposed to nudity, violence and all that stuff all the time.
conclusion: there is no problem. We should all stop being so paranoid and all the politics should understand, that the election campaign is over! The movies show tons of graphical violence, that video games are trying to achieve. "GTA made me do ti" - yeah,right! The truth is most people just can't understand, that video games aren't only for kids - and even so, every game has a rating: it's all the parents fault for letting their kids play such games. And the parents blame the video game industry, because they fail to do their job of being a parent!
the faulty logic behind the problem: OH,C'MON! We live in the digital era - Internet has tons of free porn, that is as easy accessible as checking your mail (even with less clicks!). It's not good, but the kids are exposed to nudity, violence and all that stuff all the time.
conclusion: there is no problem. We should all stop being so paranoid and all the politics should understand, that the election campaign is over! The movies show tons of graphical violence, that video games are trying to achieve. "GTA made me do ti" - yeah,right! The truth is most people just can't understand, that video games aren't only for kids - and even so, every game has a rating: it's all the parents fault for letting their kids play such games. And the parents blame the video game industry, because they fail to do their job of being a parent!
That's actually a very good outlook on it, to be honest.
Also, I am one of those people who has witnessed an older person trying to learn how to play a modern action game. Namely, my dad trying to play Resident Evil 4. It was horrific. He's gotten much better now, but he still needs to ask me for help on the boulder escape QTEs.
Possibly more-so because when I was much younger, he used to kick my ass on the James Bond game multiplayers. I can't even begin to imagine how I used to be that bad.
The Wii does not sell millions of action FPS games for the most part. The PS3 and 360 do. That is were the money is for publishers and that is where it will stay.
As for other games I am happy for all the gamers who love the Wii because they can't handle the PS3 or 360. Props to them.
But the savior of the hardcore games is and always be Sony, Microsoft, and all PC game publishers. Besides of course Nintendo and their first party line up. But that is a given. We all know how well third party games sell on the Wii. It is basically a joke.
As for other games I am happy for all the gamers who love the Wii because they can't handle the PS3 or 360. Props to them.
But the savior of the hardcore games is and always be Sony, Microsoft, and all PC game publishers. Besides of course Nintendo and their first party line up. But that is a given. We all know how well third party games sell on the Wii. It is basically a joke.
Shamus, I'm not sure if you've seen Bob Chipman's video about the videogame violence controversy [http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2009/06/finals-episode-25-violence-is-golden.html], but I think you'd find it interesting.
I actually referenced that video in a recent blog post (that also, uh, referenced you
) as part of my own "more gamers is better [http://www.pixelpoppers.com/2009/11/in-praise-of-easy-lowering-barrier-to.html]" argument.
I don't think these trends will ever save us from game-specific controversies - I mean, people have pretty well come to accept books in the mainstream but there was still a Harry Potter controversy. But getting past the demonization of the medium as a whole would still be great.
I actually referenced that video in a recent blog post (that also, uh, referenced you
) as part of my own "more gamers is better [http://www.pixelpoppers.com/2009/11/in-praise-of-easy-lowering-barrier-to.html]" argument.I don't think these trends will ever save us from game-specific controversies - I mean, people have pretty well come to accept books in the mainstream but there was still a Harry Potter controversy. But getting past the demonization of the medium as a whole would still be great.
I really liked your article and I think it raises several good points but I think you might be missing something.
Recent political polling has shown that right now a significant number of people who previously identified as either Republican or Democrat now identify as Independent. Most of these people have the same feelings and preferences they had before they have just chosen a different self identification.
I think the same thing may happen even if millions more people pick up the Wii. People that I have spoken to (understandably a small sample size) frequently resist identifying as a "gamer" even if they play Facebook games, flash games, or Wii games. They see the title "gamer" as only including the "hardcore". Unfortunately many "Hardcore gamers" do the same thing and it continues to widen the gap between the groups.
Please don't misunderstand I am very frustrated with the media and general public using gaming as a whipping boy and I wish people would come together and see gaming as just another hobby. I am just not sure I see it happening any time soon.
Recent political polling has shown that right now a significant number of people who previously identified as either Republican or Democrat now identify as Independent. Most of these people have the same feelings and preferences they had before they have just chosen a different self identification.
I think the same thing may happen even if millions more people pick up the Wii. People that I have spoken to (understandably a small sample size) frequently resist identifying as a "gamer" even if they play Facebook games, flash games, or Wii games. They see the title "gamer" as only including the "hardcore". Unfortunately many "Hardcore gamers" do the same thing and it continues to widen the gap between the groups.
Please don't misunderstand I am very frustrated with the media and general public using gaming as a whipping boy and I wish people would come together and see gaming as just another hobby. I am just not sure I see it happening any time soon.