Sexual Preference = Racism?

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RatRace123

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I personally can't account for racism and sexual preference. I was blessed with an attraction to all races.
 

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sirkai007 said:
I think that attraction is culturally based and can be affected by personal choice. However this doesn't make you racist. Everyone equates Racism with not liking a particular race but it is a belief that your own race is superior to all others.
i don't really like that definition you give, 'your own race is superior', as i think you can be racist by thinking another race is superior to yours as well.

personally i think any unjustified bias for or against a person based on their ethnicity is racism
 

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tthor said:
sirkai007 said:
I think that attraction is culturally based and can be affected by personal choice. However this doesn't make you racist. Everyone equates Racism with not liking a particular race but it is a belief that your own race is superior to all others.
i don't really like that definition you give, 'your own race is superior', as i think you can be racist by thinking another race is superior to yours as well.

personally i think any unjustified bias for or against a person based on their ethnicity is racism
Though, is finding somebody unattractive because you like one race and their not it racism? And, by that rule, what would somebody be called if they like large butts and the other person has a flat butt? Not trying to start an argument, just a question (I have to say that a lot...I hate getting flamed...I should just add that as a signature to all my posts...or have that be my username...or avatar...like the "no smoking" sign, but with a flame instead.)
 

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I am black guy myself and although I can understand your guys point don't you think you're putting a bit to much emphasis on looks isn't it a bit more important that you actually like someone for who they are instead ? personally I don't really have an preference for one race or another but I do have a thing for girls with great legs, but I wouldn't let it get in the way or me getting along or even going out with a girl that doesn't have that feature but I genuinely enjoy spending time with. Doesn't it worry or bother you guys in the slightest on what you could missing out on ? I am just saying give people a chance to surprise and your life would probably be alot better off.
 

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well, I become attracted to anyonem as I get to knkow them as well, but there will always be shapes and tones that I like far better initially.
I don't think it's racism at all. Now if I REFUSED to admit attraction towards a black woman or soething like that, then it'd be racist.
 

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Death the Kid said:
I am black guy myself and although I can understand your guys point don't you think you're putting a bit to much emphasis on looks isn't it a bit more important that you actually like someone for who they are instead ? personally I don't really have an preference for one race or another but I do have a thing for girls with great legs, but I wouldn't let it get in the way or me getting along or even going out with a girl that doesn't have that feature but I genuinely enjoy spending time with. Doesn't it worry or bother you guys in the slightest on what you could missing out on ? I am just saying give people a chance to surprise and your life would probably be alot better off.
Well good sir, what I said was that based on first look, just an instant would you/wouldn't you decision, I wouldn't choose a black woman not because she's black, but because I don't immediately find her sexually attractive. Given a longer amount of time and getting to know her, I wouldn't rule out dating a black woman, but I have yet to meet one who just completely blows me away right off the bat.

Also, welcome to The Escapist! There's cake and punch in the back, don't mind the occasional grump, and have fun!
 

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My flag is raised when someone claims to not find a certain race attractive. Because that assumes that every person in that race looks alike like they're all clones. Yes they may share some features but they're is such a spectrum of variety in body types in each race and trying to pin that down on skin color does seem racist.

Although there is a monumental difference between not being attracted to a race and saying that a race is unattractive.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
Ziadaine said:
I say its not racist. as mentioned many times already, its preferences. Would you date a guy who was VERY overweight? maybe, but I PERSONALLY wouldn't. If we had to like the same thing, there would be no unique personalities.
JanatUrlich said:
Yeah, I think it's pretty racist to be honest.
Do elaborate?
Well racism is defined as discriminating against someone because of their race. Saying that you don't find black girls attractive is therefore racist.
No. Discrimination is too strong a label to slap upon the OP. If we want to get right down to it, we can say that he is perhaps dealing with "Affective Prejudice" which is related to your dislikes towards race, colour, creed, etc.

I would say EVERYONE has prejudice, even the snotty, toffee-nosed twerps, who pompously parade themselves as the pioneers to a brighter unified future.

Would you date a religious fanatic? (a.k.a "a religiously eccentric individual")
Would you marry a dwarf? (a.k.a "a vertically challenged individual")

If you say "yes" "maybe" or "it depends on their personality", then give yourself a bitchslap to the face and go to bed. Stop lying. Your parents tried to stop you from doing that ten years ago.
 

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Thanks ThatTallGuy I have been wanting punch for a good while now >_< and it is totally understandable if you didn't find a particular black girl good looking, just as clipse15 said there is so much variety of people that it is a bit silly narrowing it down to a certain race

I find it the equivalent of saying someone doesn't like Hip-Hop because they listened to 50 cent(who I find is a childish misogynist tosser) or worse yet someone listening to Nickleback and thinking rock isn't worth the time of day.
 

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JediMB said:
Sexual attraction is not a choice. It's like accusing a man of being a male chauvinist because he's gay.
Exactly. What are you going to do? Scold your penor for being racist? That'll help.
 

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I say she has a bad argument, personally. Preference does not equal racism (but then there's 5 pages of people who already said that).

For me, race/appearance is extremely low on my priority list. As long as she's reasonably good looking, then looks don't matter much. I'm more of a personality guy and never fall for a girl right when I meet her. If she has a good personality then I'll become attracted to her over time. She'll eventually look amazing to me anyway if that's the case. My initial preference is light skin, but there was an exception. My crushes have been 2 white and 1 Asian, plus one black who could have been if I knew her better (week long beach trip with friends. We didn't really start talking to each other until half of it passed already)
 

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Tadd said:
JanatUrlich said:
Ziadaine said:
I say its not racist. as mentioned many times already, its preferences. Would you date a guy who was VERY overweight? maybe, but I PERSONALLY wouldn't. If we had to like the same thing, there would be no unique personalities.
JanatUrlich said:
Yeah, I think it's pretty racist to be honest.
Do elaborate?
Well racism is defined as discriminating against someone because of their race. Saying that you don't find black girls attractive is therefore racist.
No. Discrimination is too strong a label to slap upon the OP. If we want to get right down to it, we can say that he is perhaps dealing with "Affective Prejudice" which is related to your dislikes towards race, colour, creed, etc.

I would say EVERYONE has prejudice, even the snotty, toffee-nosed twerps, who pompously parade themselves as the pioneers to a brighter unified future.

Would you date a religious fanatic? (a.k.a "a religiously eccentric individual")
Would you marry a dwarf? (a.k.a "a vertically challenged individual")

If you say "yes" "maybe" or "it depends on their personality", then give yourself a bitchslap to the face and go to bed. Stop lying. Your parents tried to stop you from doing that ten years ago.
What what? Ok man, you wanna tell me more about myself so I can develop into a well-rounded individual such as yourself?

Please, be my guest.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
Mcface said:
JanatUrlich said:
Ziadaine said:
I say its not racist. as mentioned many times already, its preferences. Would you date a guy who was VERY overweight? maybe, but I PERSONALLY wouldn't. If we had to like the same thing, there would be no unique personalities.
JanatUrlich said:
Yeah, I think it's pretty racist to be honest.
Do elaborate?
Well racism is defined as discriminating against someone because of their race. Saying that you don't find black girls attractive is therefore racist.
Racism is actually...

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

Saying "Im not attracted to black woman" is not racism.

If he said "Black woman are so annoying" or "I hate black woman" that would be racial discrimination.
But the OP doesn't like black women because he does not feel they are attractive. That is actually saying that black people simply aren't as attractive as other races. That's racial superiority right there man.

He clearly feels that other races have superior looks to the black race.

I'd judge that as racism yeah. And I'd be pissed off if someone said something like that to my face and expected me to just sit there and accept it.
No he's not. HE isn't typically attracted to black woman. HIM. He didn't say "Black woman are ugly". He said "I am not attracted to them" There IS a difference.

You can't help who you do and don't find attractive. If he found black woman to be more attractive than other races would that still make him "racist"?

Attraction is all opinion based on an individual wants and desires.

Example. Megan fox is considered "attractive" However, I don't find her attractive at all. Girls like her are not my type. I'm not discriminating against her. I just wouldn't date her.
 

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Mcface said:
JanatUrlich said:
Mcface said:
JanatUrlich said:
Ziadaine said:
I say its not racist. as mentioned many times already, its preferences. Would you date a guy who was VERY overweight? maybe, but I PERSONALLY wouldn't. If we had to like the same thing, there would be no unique personalities.
JanatUrlich said:
Yeah, I think it's pretty racist to be honest.
Do elaborate?
Well racism is defined as discriminating against someone because of their race. Saying that you don't find black girls attractive is therefore racist.
Racism is actually...

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

Saying "Im not attracted to black woman" is not racism.

If he said "Black woman are so annoying" or "I hate black woman" that would be racial discrimination.
But the OP doesn't like black women because he does not feel they are attractive. That is actually saying that black people simply aren't as attractive as other races. That's racial superiority right there man.

He clearly feels that other races have superior looks to the black race.

I'd judge that as racism yeah. And I'd be pissed off if someone said something like that to my face and expected me to just sit there and accept it.
No he's not. HE isn't typically attracted to black woman. HIM. He didn't say "Black woman are ugly". He said "I am not attracted to them" There IS a difference.

You can't help who you do and don't find attractive. If he found black woman to be more attractive than other races would that still make him "racist"?
Haha unfortunately, yes, because that's called positive discrimination.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
Mcface said:
JanatUrlich said:
Mcface said:
JanatUrlich said:
Ziadaine said:
I say its not racist. as mentioned many times already, its preferences. Would you date a guy who was VERY overweight? maybe, but I PERSONALLY wouldn't. If we had to like the same thing, there would be no unique personalities.
JanatUrlich said:
Yeah, I think it's pretty racist to be honest.
Do elaborate?
Well racism is defined as discriminating against someone because of their race. Saying that you don't find black girls attractive is therefore racist.
Racism is actually...

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

Saying "Im not attracted to black woman" is not racism.

If he said "Black woman are so annoying" or "I hate black woman" that would be racial discrimination.
But the OP doesn't like black women because he does not feel they are attractive. That is actually saying that black people simply aren't as attractive as other races. That's racial superiority right there man.

He clearly feels that other races have superior looks to the black race.

I'd judge that as racism yeah. And I'd be pissed off if someone said something like that to my face and expected me to just sit there and accept it.
No he's not. HE isn't typically attracted to black woman. HIM. He didn't say "Black woman are ugly". He said "I am not attracted to them" There IS a difference.

You can't help who you do and don't find attractive. If he found black woman to be more attractive than other races would that still make him "racist"?
Haha unfortunately, yes, because that's called positive discrimination.
So everyone has to find everyone else equally attractive or else they are racist. This is why political correctness can go to hell.
 

JanatUrlich

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Mcface said:
So everyone has to find everyone else equally attractive or else they are racist. This is why political correctness can go to hell.
Mate, all I'm saying is that you can't just be like "I don't find black girls attractive" and then not expect people to get pissed off, because it makes the OP sound like a dick.