Sexual relationships. I don't get them.

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Sad Robot

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Now, I know there have been threads on relationships recently, I have even posted on them myself. I consider this a slightly different take on the matter and I thought it could do with its own thread instead of sidetracking another one.

So. Sexual relationships. I don't get them.

I mean, I understand them. At least I think I do. From a biochemical and social point of view, I think I understand them. It may be that I have deep psychological issues, I'm not expecting anyone to address them on an internet forum but I do feel there is room for intellectual discourse here.

I think society is not only over-sexualized but over-romantisized too. Since a little kid I've been subjected not only pornography (nobody forced it on me, my parents were very protective of me, I took it upon myself to discover it) but this to this Hollywood version of love that I, in restrospect, find perhaps even more damaging to a young person's mind than porn.

For a long time, virtually all my teen years, I was a bit fat, quite geeky, and very self-conscious about it all. I grew up fantasizing about the perfect relationship and all that. Basically, in today's terms, I was one of these 13 year old girls that have a Twilight fetish. Only I was a guy and my drug of choice was Buffy. I never really had any chance of approaching a real girl, I never even realised it could've been an option. I didn't even have any female friends.

Now before this all starts to sound like pathetic emo whining, I assure you, I realise I wasn't the only one and I'm not quite like that anymore. Anyway.

I hit 19. I was living in a dorm, I took it upon me to lose the weight. I did. All of it. I hit the gym, got a better haircut, got some new clothes and a slightly improved self esteem. Suddenly I was the hottest thing in college. I kid you not. At parties I was very reluctant to go to in the first place, I had these models and exotic dancer types asking me if they could "spend the night". I was baffled, got a massive egoboost and got quite cocky. For the first time in my life I realised I could go and ask out virtually any girl I fancied and there was a good chance they'd go out with me. Being the faux intellectual type I am, not many of them could hold my interest. So I had a couple of brief things with girls but it never felt right. I realised how all those fantasies and idealised notions I'd grown up on had corrupted me, I guess, every time I had a thing for someone, I realised I didn't have a thing for them but that I'd automatically begun to twist them into some perfect ideal in my head. I couldn't relate to the concept of a relationship, not even real sex.

Now, before you go "yeah, so? You don't want a relationship. Big deal. On to the next topic." I'd like to point out that I feel like I'm missing out on something, as if it's this essential part of the human experience and I don't know how to go about it.

As I'm typing this, I realise that someone may interpret this as being a case of a closet homosexual not realising they're gay. Well, I wish that were the case, I really do. In all honesty, I'm probably slightly bisexual, I think most people are, I've just never really had any noticeable sexual interest towards men. Although, perhaps it is not quite right to say I've had interest in women either, since what I've grown up thinking women are and feel like is far removed from reality, making my notions of what is sexually arousing and romantic incredibly unrealistic and something that doesn't have a relatable equivalent in the real world.

I think a lot of people have problems with relationships and sexuality because of how unrealistic the expectations are, how much of the whole concept seems to be a self perpetuating myth rather than a natural part of human behaviour. I mean, of course sexual relationships are natural, just not this bastardized version of it seemingly everyone has bought into. Now, I do believe there are other people who feel the same way, so feel free to share your thoughts and feelings on the matter.
 

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Technically, sexual relationships are the only natural relationship. It's just this sapiencism and the normal human's natural desire to be a social creature that twist them into what most people percieve as "deep".
 

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jcb1337 said:
Technically, sexual relationships are the only natural relationship. It's just this sapiencism and the normal human's natural desire to be a social creature that twist them into what most people percieve as "deep".
True enough, although I think relationships naturally go beyond reproduction for the sake of sticking around until the children are a bit older. There's also the case of non-sexual relationships being useful for collective survival of the species. But that doesn't address the social issue of what I guess could be considered a case of classical conditioning, in that said natural sexual desire doesn't any longer have any relatable target in the real world.

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T 980

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*sighs* Really? Sexual relationships are just friends with benefits. Sometimes just not worth the effort.
 

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T 980 said:
*sighs* Really? Sexual relationships are just friends with benefits. Sometimes just not worth the effort.
Kind of what I mean, except I never feel it's worth it. Not because I wouldn't want a piece of the action. The whole concept just seems to escape me.
 

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jcb1337 said:
Technically, sexual relationships are the only natural relationship. It's just this sapiencism and the normal human's natural desire to be a social creature that twist them into what most people percieve as "deep".
Now I'd disagree with you on that. Only lower life forms need purely sexual relationships.
 

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Well, I don't have much experience in this field but I do know that purely sexual relationships are a hollow thing. From the sounds of it you just have wonked standards due to the media. To me a relationship is a good one if you are able to be intimate with each other, not physically but more towards being able to have very intimate conversations. Of course that just may because I beleive information is power and that trust is important in a relationship. You know you can trust someone when you can give them enough info to have power of you (this goes both ways)
 

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canadamus_prime said:
jcb1337 said:
Technically, sexual relationships are the only natural relationship. It's just this sapiencism and the normal human's natural desire to be a social creature that twist them into what most people percieve as "deep".
Now I'd disagree with you on that. Only lower life forms need purely sexual relationships.
True. What makes us more human than other species is the biochemical reaction called love, the ability to care for someone unconditionally and the bitter truth is not everyone will find it. Sexual relationships on the other hand anyone can have (paid or otherwise) but love, you can't pay for that.
 

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How could you miss the point? Some relationships are based around sex. What is so hard to understand about that? It's not uncommon or unusual. Can't say that I've actually been in a "friends with benefits" situation, but quite a few of my friends have over the years.
 

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Skarin said:
True. What makes us more human than other species is the biochemical reaction called love, the ability to care for someone unconditionally and the bitter truth is not everyone will find it. Sexual relationships on the other hand anyone can have (paid or otherwise) but love, you can't pay for that.
Very true.

Fox242 said:
How could you miss the point? Some relationships are based around sex. What is so hard to understand about that? It's not uncommon or unusual. Can't say that I've actually been in a "friends with benefits" situation, but quite a few of my friends have over the years.
Was this directed at me? If so, did you read my post?
 

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I don't get what you mean by "I don't get sexual relationships" It feels good when you stick it in her. That's about it. What's not to get? If you're talking about the social boyfriend girlfriend relationships, I just see those as a friend relationship with someone who you can stick your meat into if you get them to like you enough. If you're talking about stuff like looking for a life partner or something, be glad you don't get it. That shit just weighs you down.
 

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Guitarmasterx7 said:
I don't get what you mean by "I don't get sexual relationships" It feels good when you stick it in her. That's about it. What's not to get?
The thing is, I don't get aroused by real people. However, I am not asexual either. Perhaps I was very ambiguous in my original post. Oh, well.
Guitarmasterx7 said:
If you're talking about the social boyfriend girlfriend relationships, I just see those as a friend relationship with someone who you can stick your meat into if you get them to like you enough. If you're talking about stuff like looking for a life partner or something, be glad you don't get it. That shit just weighs you down.
I think that on a theoretical level I understand them both, however I feel like I lack the ability to feel the way I assume most people feel when they are in love.
 

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Lord Thodin said:
Go masturbate. You'll soon realize you dont need relationships...
Indeed. And I never said I need them, just that I feel like I'm missing out on something essential and rudimentary, although at the same time I feel it's made to be something mythical and unrealistic, in which case I'm perhaps not missing out on all that much.
 

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Well maybe you just don't feel like having sex? Just a thought. The chance of you finding the "perfect girl" is about 0.00001%. That doesn't mean you can't find someone who is great even though they rub you the wrong way in a few places. I kind of know what you mean, as I recently turned down a girl everyone thought was perfect for me. Although, she was a bit crazy, so good thing that it didn't go past a bit of messing around.
 

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You seem like too un-superficial of a person to want sex for sex's sake. And good for you. Have you ever been in a serious realtionship that led into sex? Please don't interpret that as an attack. I'm just thinking that maybe if you came to care/love somebody first, then sex might actually mean something more than this make-believe Hollywood cliche we have programmed into our heads. But then that leads to a discussion about true love and whatnot, and if you're not sure whether you believe in that kid of thing, I don't think sex can have much more meaning to you either.

If you're landing yourself some models and or exotic dancers, more power to you (and mentor me...kidding). But maybe you're doing this out of order. Sex first probaly won't change your opinion on sex or relationships.

Oh, and I wouldn't think for a moment that you were gay. You seem very aware on your opinion on sex, and you don't come off as confused about your sexuality at all. Plus, all the gay people I know were aware of it long before age 19.
 

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The pure sexual relationships have been the white whale to my Ahab. I can form one as well as the next guy but the problem stems from either me or her wanting something more than it is. In those types of relationships it's like you're stopping by to play a video game. Some people can do this and not have any lasting feelings than feeling glorious after the conquest (FPS types). Some get lingering emotions about it. You want to know more, do more, feel more because you just had this intimate moment with someone (RPG types). Some are just whores (MMORPG types). I believe that there is nothing to understand about it. Sometimes it's more convenient to screw and move on. Just don't get caught up with a psycho cause they're like a night out with Charlie Manson; sure there might be fun but the scars will never wash away.
 

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Sad Robot said:
Now, I know there have been threads on relationships recently, I have even posted on them myself. I consider this a slightly different take on the matter and I thought it could do with its own thread instead of sidetracking another one.

So. Sexual relationships. I don't get them.

I mean, I understand them. At least I think I do. From a biochemical and social point of view, I think I understand them. It may be that I have deep psychological issues, I'm not expecting anyone to address them on an internet forum but I do feel there is room for intellectual discourse here.

I think society is not only over-sexualized but over-romantisized too. Since a little kid I've been subjected not only pornography (nobody forced it on me, my parents were very protective of me, I took it upon myself to discover it) but this to this Hollywood version of love that I, in restrospect, find perhaps even more damaging to a young person's mind than porn.

For a long time, virtually all my teen years, I was a bit fat, quite geeky, and very self-conscious about it all. I grew up fantasizing about the perfect relationship and all that. Basically, in today's terms, I was one of these 13 year old girls that have a Twilight fetish. Only I was a guy and my drug of choice was Buffy. I never really had any chance of approaching a real girl, I never even realised it could've been an option. I didn't even have any female friends.

Now before this all starts to sound like pathetic emo whining, I assure you, I realise I wasn't the only one and I'm not quite like that anymore. Anyway.

I hit 19. I was living in a dorm, I took it upon me to lose the weight. I did. All of it. I hit the gym, got a better haircut, got some new clothes and a slightly improved self esteem. Suddenly I was the hottest thing in college. I kid you not. At parties I was very reluctant to go to in the first place, I had these models and exotic dancer types asking me if they could "spend the night". I was baffled, got a massive egoboost and got quite cocky. For the first time in my life I realised I could go and ask out virtually any girl I fancied and there was a good chance they'd go out with me. Being the faux intellectual type I am, not many of them could hold my interest. So I had a couple of brief things with girls but it never felt right. I realised how all those fantasies and idealised notions I'd grown up on had corrupted me, I guess, every time I had a thing for someone, I realised I didn't have a thing for them but that I'd automatically begun to twist them into some perfect ideal in my head. I couldn't relate to the concept of a relationship, not even real sex.

Now, before you go "yeah, so? You don't want a relationship. Big deal. On to the next topic." I'd like to point out that I feel like I'm missing out on something, as if it's this essential part of the human experience and I don't know how to go about it.

As I'm typing this, I realise that someone may interpret this as being a case of a closet homosexual not realising they're gay. Well, I wish that were the case, I really do. In all honesty, I'm probably slightly bisexual, I think most people are, I've just never really had any noticeable sexual interest towards men. Although, perhaps it is not quite right to say I've had interest in women either, since what I've grown up thinking women are and feel like is far removed from reality, making my notions of what is sexually arousing and romantic incredibly unrealistic and something that doesn't have a relatable equivalent in the real world.

I think a lot of people have problems with relationships and sexuality because of how unrealistic the expectations are, how much of the whole concept seems to be a self perpetuating myth rather than a natural part of human behaviour. I mean, of course sexual relationships are natural, just not this bastardized version of it seemingly everyone has bought into. Now, I do believe there are other people who feel the same way, so feel free to share your thoughts and feelings on the matter.
I feel like you just (flawlessly) put into words this discontent I've been feeling

Now, with that said, Marry me?