Sexuality; Double Standards

[GraveeKing]

Babies are emotionally attached to the mother from birth, so it makes sense that the mother is more likely to get the child. The part that bugs me is when women assault men in the name of "self defense" when the man is just asking for directions

Personally I don't believe that - I've always grown up to prefer my dad and I've seen more than enough cases of friends who prefer their dad but a good majority live with their mums (or did at least). I do find it kind of bias - who says that every baby wants to just be with their mother? They're kids! They don't know much yet. It should be whomever has better responsibility and enough money to look after the child - but if we actually did do that then the statistics would even out more.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Ignoring all other instances of it, yet calling out women for it... well, no offence, but that's the definition of sexism, isn't it?

It's simply standard female humour in response to male incompetence.

It's not me being sexist.

Using your logic, if a friend or sibling does something to really annoy you, and you respond with something along the lines of "Fuck off, or I'll kill you!", does that immediately make you a sick fuck for threatening someone else with murder? If you get into an argument with someone down the local, and you say "Just bugger off or I'll rip your balls off!", does that mean that you're a psychopathic fuck who gets off on gore?

Using my logic, I understand that there's a huge difference between what is said to friends and what is broadcast to people who don't know the context. That's why slander and libel laws exist.

I also understand that simply sharing a chromosone with someone who has suffered doesn't pass on that suffering, or having the chromosone of a criminal makes me a criminal as well.

But most of all, I understand that for a society looking for equality, we're just finding new ways of making each other inequal.

Two X Good, One X Bad.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Sharon Osborne made an on air apology for laughing at the scenario, exactly what anyone would expect from a man.

Really?

Let's say Jeremy Clarkson makes a joke about disagreeing with a woman, so he drugs her, handcuffs her, lops her genitals off and shreds them.

Do you REALLY think he'd get away with an apology?

Especially when Hammond, say, tells him that he's a little bit sick, and he goes on to make a crass remark about how it looked like the intake of a GTI?

An apology would let him off?

Seriously?

Sharon Osbourne deserves to be fired and blacklisted. If you honestly find genital mutilation funny, then you are sick in the head.

She laughed at the mental image of a penis flopping around in a garbage disposal, she never joked about herself cutting off the genitals of a man. If Clarkson laughed at the mental image of some guy trying to flush a boob down the toilet, then yes a on air apology would suffice.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Babies are emotionally attached to the mother from birth, so it makes sense that the mother is more likely to get the child. The part that bugs me is when women assault men in the name of "self defense" when the man is just asking for directions

Personally I don't believe that - I've always grown up to prefer my dad and I've seen more than enough cases of friends who prefer their dad but a good majority live with their mums (or did at least). I do find it kind of bias - who says that every baby wants to just be with their mother? They're kids! They don't know much yet. It should be whomever has better responsibility and enough money to look after the child - but if we actually did do that then the statistics would even out more.

I said babies, once they start to grow older and can actually perceive what is happening things start to change. Personally if the kid is old enough to understand the decision they are making their choice should play a major part in the decision.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

she never joked about herself cutting off the genitals of a man.

I would just throw it in the dog's bowl.

Remember Lorraine Bobbet?

Love her. I light candles by her picture.

It's not that right to be sitting around laughing about it though. We wouldn't be sitting around laughing if they cut off her breast though.

It's different though. One's floppy and one *lost audio*. It's easy to do that.

 

[artanis_neravar]

she never joked about herself cutting off the genitals of a man.

I would just throw it in the dog's bowl.

Remember Lorraine Bobbet?

Love her. I light candles by her picture.

It's not that right to be sitting around laughing about it though. We wouldn't be sitting around laughing if they cut off her breast though.

It's different though. One's floppy and one *lost audio*. It's easy to do that.

Did she say "I would cut off the dick of my guy"? No she made a joke the same way that guys make jokes about what the woman's job is.

 

[classygangster]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3150-Solving-the-Sexism-Situation
yea pretty much

 

[Keava]

To quote my great favourite, Amanda Palmer from song Shores of California

And that is why a girl is called a tease
And that is why a guy is called a sleaze
And that?s why god made escort agencies
One life to live and mace and GHB


I think it shows the issue quite well. Why it's so? Because of how our culture developed, for many centuries man was allowed to do anything with female, it was his duty to act as alpha, to take and not ask. Then things started changing, a woman exposing her body is no longer considered a satan's bride (well, some still say that but let's leave extremes out of that), women became independent and along the right to vote they also received the right to refuse.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Did she say "I would cut off the dick of my guy"?

Implication is the most important part of humour. Over-specific detail is just for lawyers.

that guys make jokes about what the woman's job is.

Two X Good, One X Bad.

 

[onamie]

how about we say no one keep it in their pants?
sounds much more fun!

i like how you think kid!

 

[Sandernista]

OP is right.

Its funny tho. Also its funny how most people are pissed cause if women are called sluts and guys are called Heroes if they have alot of sex.
But actually its so easy to explain.

For a Woman its not hard to get lots of sex, even if shes ugly there will still be guys that want to do her, always without any exception. For a Dude its way harder. Therfore a dude that has sex ofthen is considered a hero, and a Woman is a whore.

"The one who has the pussy has the power"- Unknown

Aside from rape, a dude can only get sex when the woman says he can
I agree whole-heartedly with your post

No. You are wrong.

So, if I asked my fiancee for sex and she says no I can still do it?
I think you'll find thats a big NO. I can only get it if she ALLOWS me

So, I think you'll find I'm right

Seeing as some guys are gay, you're wrong

Who I was really criticizing was the poster you quoted. Saying it's easier for women to get sex then men is wrong.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Let's say Jeremy Clarkson makes a joke about disagreeing with a woman, so he drugs her, handcuffs her, lops her genitals off and shreds them.

Not exactly the same, but he did make a joke about murdering prostitutes being part of a truck driver's job, after a truck driver had been caught after murdering five prostitutes. There were complaints, but he retained his job.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

how about we say no one keep it in their pants?
sounds much more fun!

i like how you think kid!

the world would be a happier place if everyone followed my lead.
too many sex hang ups

 

[Radelaide]

So I've noticed increasingly that men are being told to keep it in their pants while women are being told more and more to explore their sexuality.

Now, I'm not trying to start a flame war, or be sexist here, but does anyone else feel that this is becoming a societal double standard? Wondering people's opinions on this, all views and comments (within reason) accepted, let the talking commence!

Because it's a well-known fact that men who sleep around with as many women as possible is more socially acceptable than a woman who does it. So why not turn the tables for a brief time when a woman who enjoys sex or wants to explore her sexuality isn't called a whore, slut, slag, trollop, etc.

If a man sleeps with a lot of women, he's a legend.
If a woman sleeps with a lot of women, she's a whore.

This isn't about double standards, it's more about gender roles.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Let's say Jeremy Clarkson makes a joke about disagreeing with a woman, so he drugs her, handcuffs her, lops her genitals off and shreds them.

Not exactly the same, but he did make a joke about murdering prostitutes being part of a truck driver's job, after a truck driver had been caught after murdering five prostitutes. There were complaints, but he retained his job.

That's why I chose him. Clarkson's one of the few who could have got away with the joke, and even he got a slating. Osbourne isn't even in his league. (Though who's lower is up to debate)

 

[Mcupobob]

What I think is interesting about this whole double standard thing wasn't a issue years gone by. Women weren't the keepers of sex in till about the 50's to hazard a guess when women started to get jobs and make it out on their own without the help of a man, they were able to have a noticeable power in culture and politics and soon their sexuality was made aware, because of good old capitalism and the womens rights movement made possibly by WW2(would have aruglby started soon in the 20's if it weren't for that whole depression thing) and such has given them spending power in the global economy making them a viable consumer base and what is one the things that sells the most to a market? Sex.

So there you have it, because of a need of labor, a nation turns to its females who at the time were considered nothing but baby makers at the time kicking starting a politic movement and a new market for business to sell sex to. Because hell why stop denying that touching our naughty bits feels good anymore? Yup, were all just people here now and someday well get past this little "Gender war" that is going on well modern civilization trys to work past these double standards and gender stereotypes that still linger.

Not to mention the always sexual tension that comes with working with the opposite sex and the ever present PC movement making even more awkward. Again society will work past it some day. Can't wait to see how.