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Mother Yeti

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RedMenace said:
Not true. I've been hit on by the Salarian Doctor, and I am playing a male. If your talking ME1, I think you can romance Kaiden in that as both sexes.
Well, that is something. Can you reciprocate?

Kaidan is not dude-romanceable in ME1.
 

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Fappy said:
It's not that there is any one thing that gives some one a "gay personality". When getting to know said characters I never got the impression that their sexual orientation was gay... but I can't really speak for aliens because they have a different culture (although they are portrayed as enough like humans to make the assumption).
You will meet many, many LGBT people in your lifetime who do not give the "impression" of being LGBT.
 

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Tarkand said:
Heh, technically sleeping with an Asari isn't 'gay' even if you're a woman. Yeah, Asari all look like chick, but they don't actually have a male counterpart... they're not female really.

TBH, I'm more worried about the apparent lack of female Turian/Krogan... they obviously exist in the game setting, but we never see any.
and they also don't have to have sex to have children
 

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Interestingly enough, it is really in recent decades that things like homosexuality and bisexuality have become topics of debate. For instance, look at the Middle Ages, almost everyone back then slept around between genders. Gay, straight, it's all the same. There are no more lines. Wait, never mind, that doesn't concur with what I said.
 

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Mookie_Magnus said:
Well, I'm guessing they couldn't fit in a bisexual male character. With Zevran, it was easy. He was an assassin, yet he was suave and sexual, easily made to be bisexual. I don't know who the male romance options are in ME2, but I'm betting that not one of them could be easily made bisexual without breaking their character, or turning them into a stereotype.
Jacob for sure, and probably Garrus.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
Fappy said:
It's not that there is any one thing that gives some one a "gay personality". When getting to know said characters I never got the impression that their sexual orientation was gay... but I can't really speak for aliens because they have a different culture (although they are portrayed as enough like humans to make the assumption).
You will meet many, many LGBT people in your lifetime who do not give the "impression" of being LGBT.
To be honest, I don't actually like men who give the impression of being gay, because I don't like flamboyant men with lisps. It honestly usually feels like they've succumbed to being nothing more than the personification of their sexuality. Which is why I don't agree with the idea of "well, he can be gay, but not have any gay relationships". You may as well make him asexual.
 

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Oh for the love of all which is holy can this debate die once and for all? OP, whether or not you agree with their decision or view it as "vague and not answering the question" it a moot point. Bioware made the decision to remove this option for whatever reason and such is their prerogative. It is becoming increasingly agitating that every media outlet as to fancy all variations of sexuality preference otherwise the garner a possibility of being cited for discrimination.

The entirety of the romance sub-story is fan service and implemented only to appeal to the concept of people fancying a love story, it is not a principle element nor a plot-esque decision considering a brief portion of a scene is altered at best. You have no additional rights to demand a homosexual relationship as I do were I to demand a relationship with Wrex.

I concede the double standard is response to Liara in the previous game may be unjustifiable however it is what it is and hardly worth establishing such overzealous controversy over. In ME2 there is no homosexuality, deal with it or play Dragon Age if it such a bother. Bloody hell I wish I was able to create a mod and end this relentless whining once and for all with a homosexual mod.
 

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I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
Fappy said:
It's not that there is any one thing that gives some one a "gay personality". When getting to know said characters I never got the impression that their sexual orientation was gay... but I can't really speak for aliens because they have a different culture (although they are portrayed as enough like humans to make the assumption).
You will meet many, many LGBT people in your lifetime who do not give the "impression" of being LGBT.
Oh I know. I have friends that turned around and said "btw I'm into dudes" and I had no idea... but that was then. I like to believe I have a pretty refined gaydar at this point. College does that to you.
 

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The_Oracle said:
I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
There are already thousands of those on the Bioware boards. Along with Tali-boner threads.
 

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on first go through it was miranda
ill go for tali zor'ah vas neema this time.
 

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Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
There are already thousands of those on the Bioware boards. Along with Tali-boner threads.
Still, the most prominent reason why Tali was made a love interest is because the fanboys/fangirls demanded it. If the gay portion of the Mass Effect fanbase can get together and let the devs know what they'd like in Mass Effect 3, I'm sure they'd listen.
 

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The_Oracle said:
Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
There are already thousands of those on the Bioware boards. Along with Tali-boner threads.
Still, the most prominent reason why Tali was made a love interest is because the fanboys/fangirls demanded it. If the gay portion of the Mass Effect fanbase can get together and let the devs know what they'd like in Mass Effect 3, I'm sure they'd listen.
Oh I know. I was just saying he should contribute to one of the existing petitions instead of starting his own. It shouldn't have taken a petition to bang Tali though... I mean the Devs made those hips themselves... they should have been prepared :p
 

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Although the asari had a VERY feminine appearance we all know that they are asexual or something and don't have any genitalia. It wasn't technically a lesbian scene but more... an inter-species romance/sex scene. Bioware betrayed humanity. Rable... Rable,Rable,Rable
But seriously, the romance scene in Mass Effect 1 was hetrosexual for male Shepard with Ash and Liara. Female Shepard had the option of Kaidan and Liara. The point of the lesbian ( I'm female homosexual or something) scene was to please a massive audiance. Of course I'm talking of all those insecure adolescent boys. Baby's first boner is from girl on girl because naked men are for gays. It's stupid stuff but it works. There are so many gamers in this age group. Like Yahtzee said 'nobody went hungry promising nerds boobs'.
 

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Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
There are already thousands of those on the Bioware boards. Along with Tali-boner threads.
Still, the most prominent reason why Tali was made a love interest is because the fanboys/fangirls demanded it. If the gay portion of the Mass Effect fanbase can get together and let the devs know what they'd like in Mass Effect 3, I'm sure they'd listen.
Oh I know. I was just saying he should contribute to one of the existing petitions instead of starting his own. It shouldn't have taken a petition to bang Tali though... I mean the Devs made those hips themselves... they should have been prepared :p
Isn't it strange people always mention Tali's hips when talking about her? :p

It was always her voice that was the most intriguing part, for me at least.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
Well, I'm not going to discuss Dragon Age as I haven't played it, but as far as the characters' personalities go, then yes, I would say most characters in ME2 would be substantially different for being gay. Surely, for the romance to be believeable, all the characters would have to show subtle reactions and just generally be different around Shepard, as the female characters are once you woo them. Thane, in particular, would be off limits as his whole character is based around his wife and child, whereas Garrus has already been established as a bit of a ladies' man. This leaves Jacob, whose character is built around a professional respect for his commander, which I suppose could transform into love but, as ME1 had two romance options and ME2 needed to be bigger and better, it was easier to put him as the third hetero romance. As I said, a fourth gay romance was no doubt possible and certainly considered, but just unfeasible.
 

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The_Oracle said:
Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
Fappy said:
The_Oracle said:
I like how this thread's turned from 'Sexuality in Mass Effect' to 'Sexuality in general.' An interesting derail if I've ever seen one.

But in all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that the main reason Bioware didn't include a male-on-male romance sidequest because there wasn't enough time. I don't know their motivations, all I know is that they repeated this action for Mass Effect 2.

I think they're afraid of the censors taking unjust action, but we shouldn't spend so much time debating something we have little control over.

RyVal, if you want things to change, my suggestion is that you go on the Mass Efffect boards and try and petition the devs that post there to make this change in Mass Effect 3. That's the best advice I can give you at this point.
There are already thousands of those on the Bioware boards. Along with Tali-boner threads.
Still, the most prominent reason why Tali was made a love interest is because the fanboys/fangirls demanded it. If the gay portion of the Mass Effect fanbase can get together and let the devs know what they'd like in Mass Effect 3, I'm sure they'd listen.
Oh I know. I was just saying he should contribute to one of the existing petitions instead of starting his own. It shouldn't have taken a petition to bang Tali though... I mean the Devs made those hips themselves... they should have been prepared :p
Isn't it strange people always mention Tali's hips when talking about her? :p

It was always her voice that was the most intriguing part, for me at least.
She does have a cool voice... she also has a cool hourglass... >.>