Sexuality in Mass Effect

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Kortney

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Mother Yeti said:
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Well let's drop it then.

In short, I think you are making mountains out of mole hills.

But, maybe you are right. Maybe it comes down to the fact that Bioware don't want their character, the perfect hero of the universe, the macho commander Shepherd being a gay dude. The mainstream media and the mainstream gay rights movement kind of imprints gayness as pretty much the opposite of being a huge badass space marine and killing thousands of people.

However, they are happy having their perfect female commander Shepherd being a little bi-sexual flirt. Because that's hot.

It's a sad world we live in.
 

Drexler

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Let me quote Yatheze here.

The nerd is a tiresome creature which the promise of boobies is like a beacon sandwich to a starving wolf. (later did a releize that that is a quote from his ME1 review)

+ as the poor fellow who would have to create that cut scence, it'd outright refuse to design, create, write, that scene.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
I really wish I could get inside peoples' heads, asari-style, and figure out why it's so difficult to comprehend our position: Female-female romances are allowed. Why are male-male romances not allowed?
simple : sex sells
the majority of players are straight males
lesbians are hawt...

Drexler said:
Let me quote Yatheze here.

The nerd is a tiresome creature which the promise of boobies is like a beacon sandwich to a starving wolf. (later did a releize that that is a quote from his ME1 review)

+ as the poor fellow who would have to create that cut scence, it'd outright refuse to design, create, write, that scene.
and what he said. I assume no one thinks the female-female romances where included in the game to please the lesbian gamer community.
 

Mother Yeti

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223 said:
Mother Yeti said:
I really wish I could get inside peoples' heads, asari-style, and figure out why it's so difficult to comprehend our position: Female-female romances are allowed. Why are male-male romances not allowed?
simple : sex sells
the majority of players are straight males
lesbians are hawt...
Ding-ding! Bioware is pandering to a porn-happy, homophobic demographic! Congratulations on winning, enjoy your luxurious new 1987 Buick Skylark.
 

Withard

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Oh shut up.

"Hey wanna see some guys make out dude?"
"Naa not really my thing"
"OMFG HOMOPHOBE!!!!! YOUR DISGUSTING!!"
"..."

Seriously. Im not gay, I dont have a problem with gays (now I use this common argument which is mostly true anyway) and I have gay friends. What they wanna do is up to them but I dont particularly want to see it.
 

Kage Me

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Withard said:
Oh shut up.

"Hey wanna see some guys make out dude?"
"Naa not really my thing"
"OMFG HOMOPHOBE!!!!! YOUR DISGUSTING!!"
"..."

Seriously. Im not gay, I dont have a problem with gays (now I use this common argument which is mostly true anyway) and I have gay friends. What they wanna do is up to them but I dont particularly want to see it.
A more accurate summary would be:
"Hey, wanna see some girls make out?"
"Naa not really my thing."
"Oh. Well, it's there if you want it. Wanna watch some guys make out?"
"Sure!"
"WELL YOU CAN'T!"

It's the double standard that bothers me.
 

Mother Yeti

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Withard said:
Oh shut up.

"Hey wanna see some guys make out dude?"
"Naa not really my thing"
"OMFG HOMOPHOBE!!!!! YOUR DISGUSTING!!"
"..."
What Kage Me said. Also, if you really, honestly think this resembles the discussion in this thread in any way ... boy oh boy, I don't even know where to start. My most charitable guess is you haven't read the thread at all.
 

Mother Yeti

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Mimsofthedawg said:
I understand your point, and although I probably wouldn't make a gay character, that IS weird.
Thanks for being one of the seemingly few who understand that "I think a homosexual option would be fair" is not the same as "I WANT TO FORCE EVERYONE TO BE GAY RAAAAAARGH"
 

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I'm more disturbed by the fact that Shepard has sex with creatures who have completely different anatomies to him.

Did someone say you can do Garrus and Thane???

I mean... really... Thane has gills for crying out loud, and how do we know Garrus doesn't have scaly plates on his man-bits?
 

Mother Yeti

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MiracleOfSound said:
I'm more disturbed by the fact that Shepard has sex with creatures who have completely different anatomies to him.

Did someone say you can do Garrus and Thane???

I mean... really... Thane has gills for crying out loud, and how do we know Garrus doesn't have scaly plates on his man-bits?
Not to overthink this, but Turians are avian and the Drell amphibious, so I can't imagine their reproductive organs would at all be compatible with a primate. I think it's fair to assume that whatever Shepard does with Thane or Garrus doesn't involve any sort of penetration.

Yeah, I'm going to stop thinking about this now.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
MiracleOfSound said:
I'm more disturbed by the fact that Shepard has sex with creatures who have completely different anatomies to him.

Did someone say you can do Garrus and Thane???

I mean... really... Thane has gills for crying out loud, and how do we know Garrus doesn't have scaly plates on his man-bits?
Not to overthink this, but Turians are avian and the Drell amphibious, so I can't imagine their reproductive organs would at all be compatible with a primate. I think it's fair to assume that whatever Shepard does with Thane or Garrus doesn't involve any sort of penetration.

Yeah, I'm going to stop thinking about this now.
He probably thinks:

'Hey. I'm saving the galaxy... I should be allowed indulge in a little bestiality.'
 

Mother Yeti

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Mother Yeti said:
223 said:
there is no wheelchair bound character in the game.
I take it you never spoke to Joker.

A lot of the arguments here are based on the idea that including a same-sex option would be catering to a minority, implying that only gay people would want to roleplay a gay character. However, anyone who's ever been to TV Tropes, Television Without Pity, or a yaoi fansite knows that that there are many, many hetero women and girls who would love to do exactly that.
wait wait wait, are you insinuating that a lot of people WANT to have a homosexual character, even if they themselves aren't homosexual?

And question, why do only women want to play as homosexual character's?
Not only women (as this thread has shown, non-hetero men also play Mass Effect), but in the same way some straight men like the idea of female-female attraction, some straight women like the idea of male-male attraction. Ask your female friends.
 

Withard

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I have read the thread. Im just shocked that its still going and not in a hilarious way.
 

Mother Yeti

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Withard said:
I have read the thread. Im just shocked that its still going and not in a hilarious way.
I'm with you. I can understand this taking up a few pages... but 14? really?
I, too, am shocked that people are interested in things that I am not interested in.

Frankly, it's the two of you who have been keeping this thread on the front page. Without your "GOD WHO CARES I DON'T AND LET ME PROVE IT BY POSTING HERE MULTIPLE TIMES" this thread probably would be heading for death - by now it seems like most of the major point and arguments have been made.