Shooting in Texas

[Something Amyss]

Its like theyre trying to get as many shootings in before the assault weapon ban

That kind of sounds like our other reactions to gun control. Make more guns, buy more guns, murder with more guns....

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not such a brainy idea.

 

[Something Amyss]

I agree entirely. Of course, I'd prefer we try something that actually has some chance of success rather than something that is doomed to failure from the get-go. Of course, civilization has been trying to stop this kind of shit for millennia (and have been way more successful than they get credit for, by the way), so I'd be happy to hear an alternative that isn't based on myopic, reactionary bullshit.

You mean gun control? So are you one of the people who writes off Australia's success as an anomaly?

I mean the US had an assault weapons ban for 5 years via Clinton and because of a lack of definitive evidence that it was effecting a solution, people use it as definitive proof that such measures wont work. Has no one considered the possibility that such measures need to be used long term, or that perhaps it wasn't strict enough, etcetera.

Another problem is that the market was flooded with assault weapons and mods before the ban took effect. This is already happening again in some cases. One wonders why the impact of such a ban doesn't work? One doesn't have to look far. We let companies flood the market with grandfathered weapons and then kill the bill at the first possible moment.

All other issues created equal, that should still be enough right there. It's almost like gun manufacturers who are willing to flood the streets with easily accessed weapons can counteract legislation or something.

 

[Something Amyss]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not suck a brainy idea.

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind....

The problem is, after every shooting the people saying "enough is enough" get shouted down. I was hoping Sandy Hook was going to finally stop that trend, but even now people are losing steam on the argument.

It's a shame that even kids getting slaughtered isn't enough to make people stop loving their guns.

 

[Something Amyss]

Don't worry. Once mass shootings start occuring quarterly then either they will give up their stupid 2nd amendment "right" or they will just start saying "meh" and simply stop caring as their nation is filled with more bullet holes than swiss cheese

As an American, what frightens me is that it'll be the latter.

As an American, I also lack the economic mobility to flee in terror from a nation that thinks dead children are a small price to pay for MOAR GUNZ.

 

[Something Amyss]

It's a bit of a fad to immediately kneejerk talk about the media as if they're at fault... Even when it turns out to be a gang related shooting and nothing about mentally unstable people who got picked on...

And the Escapist is rife with this fad.

Apparently, the media is more to blame for guns being in people's hands than the gun lobby, the gun manufacturers, or the gun nut.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not suck a brainy idea.

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind....

The problem is, after every shooting the people saying "enough is enough" get shouted down. I was hoping Sandy Hook was going to finally stop that trend, but even now people are losing steam on the argument.

It's a shame that even kids getting slaughtered isn't enough to make people stop loving their guns.

I'm not exactly sure what would stop them from loving their guns.

 

[Ryotknife]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not such a brainy idea.

when the issues in which owning a gun is no longer the most feasible option are solved. Many more lives will be lost if guns were banned or severely restricted like NY state. The amount of lives that will now be lost to wildlife ALONE will probbly outnumber those lost to mass shootings. The sad fact of the matter is police are more focused on not being sued by suspects/criminals than trying to protect citizens. Hell the only time you can count on the police to protect you is if you are in handcuffs!

The worst crime in the US tends to be in areas with strict gun control. various NY cities, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington DC, Detriot.

Although to be fair, even if guns disappeared tomorrow washington DC would still be dangerous as hell. The drivers there are crazy as hell.

Also, our crime has been going down in the country, not up. It has been going down for decades

by the by, every Tom, Dick, and Harry can NOT have a gun.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not such a brainy idea.

when the issues in which owning a gun is no longer the most feasible option are solved. Many more lives will be lost if guns were banned or severely restricted like NY state. The amount of lives that will now be lost to wildlife ALONE will probbly outnumber those lost to mass shootings.

The worst crime in the US tends to be in areas with strict gun control. various NY cities, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington DC, Detriot.

Although to be fair, even if guns disappeared tomorrow washington DC would still be dangerous as hell. The drivers there are crazy as hell.

Also, our crime has been going down in the country, not up. It has been going down for decades

by the by, every Tom, Dick, and Harry can NOT have a gun.

That's the thing, I'm not saying that no one should be allowed to have guns; I'm saying that people need to be more responsible with their guns.

 

[axlryder]

By "obvious reason" I'm certain you are referring to the media's macabre fascination with shootings and spree killers and how we turn them into celebrities?

This shit right here. Thank you for posting this.

 

[Ryotknife]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not such a brainy idea.

when the issues in which owning a gun is no longer the most feasible option are solved. Many more lives will be lost if guns were banned or severely restricted like NY state. The amount of lives that will now be lost to wildlife ALONE will probbly outnumber those lost to mass shootings.

The worst crime in the US tends to be in areas with strict gun control. various NY cities, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington DC, Detriot.

Although to be fair, even if guns disappeared tomorrow washington DC would still be dangerous as hell. The drivers there are crazy as hell.

Also, our crime has been going down in the country, not up. It has been going down for decades

by the by, every Tom, Dick, and Harry can NOT have a gun.

That's the thing, I'm not saying that no one should be allowed to have guns; I'm saying that people need to be more responsible with their guns.

thats perfectly fine, I even applaud it. Even though im pro-gun, I do not own one nor have a desire to. The gun safe thing im kinda iffy on. On the one hand it will help against accident and gun thefts, on the other that makes home defense that much harder.

 

[Ryotknife]

You know, I was talking with my Dad after hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting and I was saying how I wonder how many shootings it'll take before the USA realizes that maybe letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a gun is not such a brainy idea.

when the issues in which owning a gun is no longer the most feasible option are solved. Many more lives will be lost if guns were banned or severely restricted like NY state. The amount of lives that will now be lost to wildlife ALONE will probbly outnumber those lost to mass shootings.

The worst crime in the US tends to be in areas with strict gun control. various NY cities, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington DC, Detriot.

Although to be fair, even if guns disappeared tomorrow washington DC would still be dangerous as hell. The drivers there are crazy as hell.

Also, our crime has been going down in the country, not up. It has been going down for decades

by the by, every Tom, Dick, and Harry can NOT have a gun.

That's the thing, I'm not saying that no one should be allowed to have guns; I'm saying that people need to be more responsible with their guns.

"America" and "Responsible" do not go in the same sentence. You should know that by now!

actually "america" and "level-headed response" dont go in the same sentence. We shuffle our feet for as long as possible, then go WAY overboard at the last minute.

 

[axlryder]

By "obvious reason" I'm certain you are referring to the media's macabre fascination with shootings and spree killers and how we turn them into celebrities?

This shit right here. Thank you for posting this.

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What does that have to do with gang related shootings that involve two people getting in a fight?

Apparently it wasn't a mass shooting spree. Good. I'd still remembered hearing about it the other day and seeing the article or so I'd read treating it the exact same way the media treats all the recent school shootings. Primed and ready to treat the shooters and their victims like they belong to some kind of morbid collectible card game.