Zachary Amaranth said:
Catrixa said:
Oh dear. So, a woman said something unsavory, because there was a cause she could latch onto and suck dry, like a mosquito that feeds on excuses (really, I think people do this to make up for their lack of skill)?
Isn't that always how it works? A woman does something we don't like, and it's "women, mirite?" But it is the same for any other group. A muslim blows something up, all Muslims are terorists. When a Christian blows something up, it's totally different. A loud black man is so totally "typical," even though loud angry white men are also very common and nobody bats an eyelash.
Well, it's even worse than that, since she picked a cause to trumpet that also happens to be a hot button. So, it's category: woman, subcategory: feminism. Or rather, femininazism, which is weird to think about. Hell, I told my husband I considered myself a feminist once. He told me he agreed with all my views on women (and I've ranted to him many more times than I've ranted to the internet about it), but felt that didn't constitute feminism, because feminism was about making women
better than men. There was nothing I could possibly say to convince him otherwise. It was... strange, like being taught "hello" as a greeting, then finding out it's being interpreted as a nasty insult by everyone else.
Zachary Amaranth said:
So, if someone calls you (well, I guess, not the OP, since the event he described didn't even happen to him) gay as an attempt to insult you, would this topic be "Should Homosexuality and Gaming Mix?"?
Mostly, I wonder if this response would be different:
Saelune said:
No. I dont like feminism. I prefer general equality, instead of limiting to one group. Though I am gay and focus on LGBT rights, I would rather be a human rights person than a gay rights person. Also I think alot of feminism that attacks gaming is misguided. Gaming is targeted at straight men. So alot of what happens makes sense. But even non straight men people enjoy gaming (like me), since its more than just DOA. Plus what about things aimed at straight women? Just because they dont care so much about blunt sexualification, the same thing happens in a different light. Maybe the next romantic "chick flick" should be made more equal by adding a few explosions? I could go into a lengthier explanation, but it would be too long.
That would be interesting. I think what people never ask is "if this cause is invalid, why are similar causes valid? What makes any cause valid?" when they call for silence from a particular group. Usually, the answer is "well, people of this cause are loud and say things I don't like," but I think that's more a cry of "to do things different would put me outside of my comfort zone." Which is a completely understandable answer, but if I lived my life entirely in my comfort zone, I don't see why I'd ever talk to anyone, do anything, or even be posting this online (I have a severe fear of people disliking me, but yet I'm still talking in a place where it can happen at any time, especially with this topic).
Tangentially related to the post you quoted, but why do romance books/movies/TV shows always wind up in these discussions? Those media may or may not have their own equality issues, but if there's a bland, samey romantic comedy for every bland, samey action flick, why are these things brought up at all? Why is it always "Men have video games, girls have Twilight!" Haven't we all been on the same page of "video games are not the same as TV, books, or movies, and this is what makes them worthy of discussion" for the past forever? Or am I not understanding things correctly?
