Should I preorder Bioshock infinite despite the controversy of Aliens?
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Actually the STEAM pre-purchuse just seems to have some items for the game and the little promotional game they created to hype it, through which you can unlock a few more items. I haven't seen anything about X-com being added to the bundle, but I haven't looked recently.Robeltu said:
My advice at the moment is simply to wait, unless it's a case of having cash on hand now and wanting to put it down towards the game, rather than waiting to see if you have cash on hand later on down the pipe when it's actually out. Being heavily hyped with a good pedigree doesn't mean much, and truthfully as much as I like the "shock" games (Bioshock, System Shock) this one has had me wondering a bit. It seems like it might actually wind up being too cinematic, as much as they talk about freedom to wander around and do all of this stuff, a lot of the promoted footage of the game seems to involve you following this girl around, and honestly if she's a shackled AI bot, I'm having nightmares already of Resident Evil 4 and 5 with that companion AI, or worse yet "Silent Hill 4: The Room" which I liked as a game but attached a seemingly invincible AI companion to you, but then had the amount of damage she takes (of which you only get a vague indicator) greatly influance what happens during the final confrontation and how viable getting a decent ending is.
Given that little sister escort missions were the most annoying part of the earlier games, I kind of have these visions of some bright boy basically developing an entire game that is basically one giant escort mission with a retaded AI.
Now before anyone jumps on me and says "it won't be like that!" understand the game isn't out yet, we don't know, and it seems like it very much MIGHT be like that, which is why I want to see it come out first.
That and it seems like it might go a little too far with the US bashing, that's in of itself not enough to ruin me on a game (as I'm already looking forward to it) but combined with annoying design, wandering through a giant treatise on ignorant bashing of the right wing, in an enviroment that seems like an eternal 4th of July celebration gone insane, might just be a little more than I can take. "OMG, my token NPC just wasted my healing items again, and keeps jumping over the side of the enviroment on her own!".
I recommend always erring on the side of caution, and remembering how many times you've been screwed.
I already pre-ordered Bioshock Infinite, despite the controversy surrounding pre-ordering at this point in time. Why?
Because I trust Irrational Games. They've proven to me during their existence that they're devoted to providing exceptional service and high quality to their consumers. Some other companies, maybe, but frankly, I'm not too worried about Irrational screwing me over. Is there always the possibility that I'll regret these words later? Yes, but it's unlikely.
Because I trust Irrational Games. They've proven to me during their existence that they're devoted to providing exceptional service and high quality to their consumers. Some other companies, maybe, but frankly, I'm not too worried about Irrational screwing me over. Is there always the possibility that I'll regret these words later? Yes, but it's unlikely.
Don't let others sway your choices.
While Jim made a good video and good points, he's not actually god and his word isn't law.
If you see something you think you'll really like, pre-order away.
I enjoyed and agreed with Jims video but still plan on pre-ordering certain titles when they become available. Not for any kind of pre-order bonus, just because I'm impatient as hell, and IF I do pre-order something, I understand and accept (as you should too if you decide to go through with it) the possible consequences of my actions.
While Jim made a good video and good points, he's not actually god and his word isn't law.
If you see something you think you'll really like, pre-order away.
I enjoyed and agreed with Jims video but still plan on pre-ordering certain titles when they become available. Not for any kind of pre-order bonus, just because I'm impatient as hell, and IF I do pre-order something, I understand and accept (as you should too if you decide to go through with it) the possible consequences of my actions.
Normally the pre order bonuses are shite like you said, but these are very enticing and 2K as a publisher has always released quality products, there are publishers I wouldn't pre order from and some that I wouldn't even buy from *cough* EA *cough*.sanquin said:
I decided that yes I have been impatient with games and that I was going to stop pre ordering from publishers and developers that I don't 100% trust and try and ignore the bonuses and the discounts.
It could be because they don't have faith in the game or it could be that people are very cautious after recent games about preordering. If people are worried about games not living up to what they are marketed at they will try and use bigger rewards and lower prices to distract the consumer.Rack said:
You get a previous game which you can probably already buy for a few dollars, and some puzzles and ingame items. Only the puzzles sound 'interesting' the rest are pointless pre-order bonuses. And tell me, do you really want to risk the game being bad and you having wasted too much money on it, for just a bunch puzzles? None of the pre-order bonuses really add much to the game as a whole, so I don't see why you would pre-order. Even if it's a company you trust, the way pre-ordering today works is shit. And you continuing to buy any pre-order from any company, tell them that they can continue doing so.Robeltu said:
I wouldn't have thought twice about it in the past.
Pre-ordering was just something I did without thinking.
After the Aliens fiasco though...
I think what I might do in future is still pre-order (to make sure there's a copy for me on release day and I still get all of the extra DLC etc), put the smallest deposit I can on it and just wait a few days to pick it up.
If the feedback I get from everyone else in those few days is not great - then I can cancel the pre-order, get my deposit back and buy something that's actually good.
If everyone loves it, then I can just go in, pick up my game and have a blast.
Pre-ordering was just something I did without thinking.
After the Aliens fiasco though...
I think what I might do in future is still pre-order (to make sure there's a copy for me on release day and I still get all of the extra DLC etc), put the smallest deposit I can on it and just wait a few days to pick it up.
If the feedback I get from everyone else in those few days is not great - then I can cancel the pre-order, get my deposit back and buy something that's actually good.
If everyone loves it, then I can just go in, pick up my game and have a blast.
Actually, this is the greatest idea ever. Didn't Elizabeth turn the Songbird into a poster before..? If from reality to fiction works, then why not the other way around?Otaku World Order said:
Also, I don't get this bogus around pre-ordering. If you enjoy risk and consider yourself to be a good judge of games, then do it. If you aren't, then why do you feel the need to go around preaching for people to stop preordering games?
If Elizabeth created Booker, is she aware of it? Also if she did, then she must have created the circumstances in which he would rescue her in the first place and that opens up a whole new playing field.
Anyway, I wouldn't pre-order the game. I would wait until it's on sale.
Anyway, I wouldn't pre-order the game. I would wait until it's on sale.
for me its
do i want to preorder the premium edition(no songbird) includes the preorder dlc for $99aus?
do i want to preorder the premium edition(no songbird) includes the preorder dlc for $99aus?
Bioshock has nothing to do with Gearbox, so the controversy of Aliens: Colonial Marines shouldn't affect your buying decisions.
I tend to wait until I have seen enough of the game to make a semi informed decision, and even then, I wouldn't pre order an original IP/ different studio's work. And even then I expect a good discount/ extra game.
The TF2 items? Why should we give a fuck?
Aesthetic in-game items? Why should we give a fuck?
Bonus in-game weapons? Why should we give a fuck?
Just think about discounts or extra games (that you actually want).
The TF2 items? Why should we give a fuck?
Aesthetic in-game items? Why should we give a fuck?
Bonus in-game weapons? Why should we give a fuck?
Just think about discounts or extra games (that you actually want).
On a personal note?
Grade 1: Free Copy of BioShock. Tends to come up often in Steam Sales, often with 75% sliced off. Not worth it if you already possess a copy of the game.
Grade 2: TF2 Items. Not really that great - they'll be submitted to the Mann Co. store after release. This usually just gets you a "Genuine" tag, which is only really useful in Trade.
Grade 3: Free Copy of X-COM: Enemy Unknown. Doesn't come up that frequently in Sales, and even so usually with less than 25% hacked off. Could be worth it.
At the end of the day though, the real question is "would I get it anyway?". If the answer is yes, then go grab it while you have the pennies. If not, then you can be safe leaving it at home unless you want to increase your E-Peen or something.
Grade 1: Free Copy of BioShock. Tends to come up often in Steam Sales, often with 75% sliced off. Not worth it if you already possess a copy of the game.
Grade 2: TF2 Items. Not really that great - they'll be submitted to the Mann Co. store after release. This usually just gets you a "Genuine" tag, which is only really useful in Trade.
Grade 3: Free Copy of X-COM: Enemy Unknown. Doesn't come up that frequently in Sales, and even so usually with less than 25% hacked off. Could be worth it.
At the end of the day though, the real question is "would I get it anyway?". If the answer is yes, then go grab it while you have the pennies. If not, then you can be safe leaving it at home unless you want to increase your E-Peen or something.
Still, the whole "smart side" comment is complete arrogant. Is there any argument that you would admit to being on the dumb side of? No, because everyone always thinks that they are right at that there is a smart side (their side). It is just one choice versus another. I can't for the life of me figure out why people can't think for themselves and wait for reviews or people with a huge ego and a youtube account to tell them if a game is good or not.Windcaler said:
Know little to nothing about it? I know it is another BioShock game, which I loved the first two. I know it is an FPS, which I love. So, pretty sure what I'm getting. I'm not super anal about gameplay mechanics, or how you move, or anything like that. How is buying it on day one any different from preordering? Except, well, I have to make sure I have then money the day it is out instead of now. I'd rather put the money down now (months ago, rather) while I have it, then have to try and see if I can drop the money then.
You know how I've been screwed over with a purchase? By listening to people go on about how good the Assassin's Creed games are, or how amazing BioWare games are. So, I bought them, and they turned out to be complete shit. That has only happened to me once preordering (and it was a $6 indie game), but it has happened multiple times by listening to reviews and people's opinions on games.
As for my guns, I didn't shoot them before buying them (didn't watch a video on youtube of a guy shooting them either because that means nothing). All of them I held, saw how it felt, knew the caliber and the type of gun (like how I knew my AK-47 was an AK-47 before buying it), and bought them. I didn't just give someone a few hundred dollars and see what random gun I got like a lot of people (like you) seem to think preordering is. Do you taste test your fast food before you buy it? Do you watch a video of someone else watching a movie before you go see it in theaters?
The reason Aliens: CM was bad is because Gearbox handed it to someone else. as long as Infinite isn't handed to someone else, it'll be fine, and as a result safe to pre-order.