Housebroken Lunatic said:
MisterM2402 said:
If no one steps up and challenges the status quo, nothing will ever change.
I get what you're saying about bad parenting, but people DO challenge the status quo - I've seen lots of anti-bullying campaigns, but the problem is that they don't target the root of the problem, (as you said) the parents. However, even if parents DO teach their kids the necessary values, kids will still bully other kids. I mean yeah, the majority of people who are brought up well will be fine, but people who are brought up well can still be douchebags (for example, if their parents divorce). Is it not human nature to try and assert dominance over peers? It's just something kids do.
Housebroken Lunatic said:
MisterM2402 said:
So your example is sort of equating giving a child an odd sounding name to be an act of procovation? That it is somehow a "hostile" action?
No, I meant the driver speeding down the road is the hostile action. The mother knows that the truck will badly injure/kill her son, yet she still throws him anyway (don't ask me WHY she wants to throw her son, it's just part of the analogy XD). In a perfect world, one without bullies or maniac drivers, she would be fine to throw her son into the road or give him a stupid name.
Housebroken Lunatic said:
MisterM2402 said:
I don't believe that you become emotionally scarred for life by experiencing harassment of bullies. Mainly because I have personally been subjected to it. And I mean really bad shit like constant harassment and even getting beat up by four older boys at the same time.
And that's why (if it were my kid with the funny name) I would jump at every opportunity to show my kid through practical actions right from wrong and not just talk about it. My own period of getting picked on was mostly a psychological war, and I learned tricks to terrorize and make their life just as miserable as they were trying to make mine.
I didn't mean to sound aggressive or anything when I said "correct me if I'm wrong", I was just wanting to make sure I was coming at this from the right angle.
I guess the experience varies from person to person. I'm sure you've heard PLENTY of stories of people committing suicide from bullying - if that isn't being "emotionally scarred", I don't know what is. And just because you can manage to find a way to "put up with it", it doesn't make bullying any less of a bad thing to go through. If you had the option to either choose A. Not be bullied at all or B. Be beaten up by four kids at the same time BUT have someone to talk to about it, I don't see what sane person would choose B. Yeah, you're ok NOW, but at the time it was probably hell. If I had gone through that, but instead they bullied me because of my name, I'd curse my parents for having the selfishness to give me a stupid name just because "they liked it". Now I know, kids can make fun of ANY name, but there is a much higher chance of the them picking on someone with an odd name than someone with a normal name. Why would parents be so selfish? They greatly increase the chances of their kids going through hell, maybe even committing suicide, JUST so they can pick a name they think is "cute". Parents should really put their kids' needs before there own (at least when it counts, such as when choosing a name). Even though the bullies parents are to blame for not raising their kids properly, the victim's parents vanity is also to blame. Just note that I only mean this in relation to choosing an odd name - pretty much every other type of bullying is a totally different situation (any bullying where the factors CAN'T be changed, like having red hair or being intelligent).
Istvan said:
Children are status symbols, not human beings, and thus property. They should be treated in any way the parents find pleasing. It's trendy y'know.
Can't agree with you more XD