well I have to take my hud down when I go into a shop and I know its a religon but its still the same princeiple
Should muslim women remove their veil in stores?
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That was my point.Eclectic Dreck said:
I was being sarcastic with my "above reproach" comment.Glad there are some reasonable atheists about. I find people trying to shove religion down my throats as abhorrent as people ordering me not to believe in something, or labelling me "mentally ill" if I do. Atheism has now reached the stage where it has almost become an organised religion in itself, and seeks to usurp other religions and replace them with it's own because it "is the only truth"....Wouldukindly said:
Oh how ironic.
Actually, he's not. He just hates the religion in and of itself. Doesn't mean he hates middle-eastern people. He's a religioniest... Oh, whatever. ><; Raciest would be hating someone on account of race, not religion. You can still be white and be Muslim, after all.Abedeus said:
That said, every religion, belief, and, yes, race has their own stupid custom. Either we deal with it, or make everyone act universally the same. Which sounds better?
"Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security. "
~ Ben Franklin
The veil isn't a fashion statement, it's a piece clothing proscribed by their faith. So no, they shouldn't have to remove it. If they have to remove their veils, YOU should have to strip naked to prove you aren't concealing a weapon, since that would be a security risk as well...hypothetical fact said:
Seriously, how do people come up with this stuff...
Of course there is...Codgo said:
"This is the revolution and the evolution beyond the plague,
open your eyes and march into the future,
stand tall on this new ground,
a place purged of ancient ritual and dogma,
this is the Atheist Empire."
http://www.atheistempire.com/
Incidentally, I never said all atheists. In fact that post specifically cited the fundamentalist atheist as being different from the reasonable atheist. Anyone who is intolerant of anothers beliefs is a bigot, not someone who simply doesn't want their own beliefs to be ridiculed or prejudiced by others.
Also - quoting one small part of a post to make it sound different than what it originally said is bad form.
again, many Sikhs carry knives around all the time.SirSchmoopy said:
what happens when it's EVERY store's policy? you can't shop anywhere without sacrificing your religious beliefs. this is a silly argument anyway, since you can easily enforce the policy while still respecting religious belief.
The difference is, your hoodie is your fashion choice. Is there any overriding reason for you to NEED to wear a hood over your head?Mazty said:
Well, to them the IS an important overriding reason why they have to wear the veil. I don't see WHY in the world would you force people into such a position over a VEIL...
But I guess I have too much common sense...
a muslim woman should not be forced to remove her veil when entering the store, but the store should be allowed to set and enforce policies that satisfy their security needs and deny service to customers not willing to comply with those policies. This way, both parties get to exercise their freedom and in the worst case, the woman simply chooses not to shop there.
by handling it this way, businesses are presented with a financial incentive to rethink and innovate towards security practices and policies that accomodate the muslim veil.
by handling it this way, businesses are presented with a financial incentive to rethink and innovate towards security practices and policies that accomodate the muslim veil.
This is silly. Wouldn't it be EASIER to pick someone out of a crowd if they are stealing something while wearing full hijab?
+1 to ignorance and intolerance.
+1 to ignorance and intolerance.
